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Does anyone know of a brand of eggs and/or milk that actually treats their animals well? A brand that can actually be trusted?<br><br>
Thanks,<br><br>
-Eric
 

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naturally preffered has cage-free eggs and eggland's best provides their chickens with a good diet...as far as milk goes, wouldn't horizon's (i THINK that's the name) be the best choices given their good-treatment story on the carton?<br><br><br><br>
i am by no means an expert, but since i have not a complete feel of what i can eat in order to become a nutritionally-sound vegan, i have switched to organic dairy products to compensate for my ignorance and those brands make me feel comfortable...
 

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I don't want to sound rude, but I think "humane" milk isn't possible. A story on a carton is just that, a story, used to sell their product. Cows have to have a calf in order to produce milk, sending calves to veal factories or slaughter. At the end of a cows "milking" life, they are sent to slaughter. There are many fortified soymilks on the market. I would suggest that if you're unsure about which vegan foods are nutritionally sound, to do a little research. There are many books and websites that detail a healthy vegan diet. You don't need animal products to be healthy (it's actually quite the opposite ).
 

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<a href="http://www.foodrevolution.org/askjohn/4.htm" target="_blank">Link to a John Robbins article on milk</a><br><br><br><br>
I thought this article was pretty interesting and summed up the dairy issue pretty well.
 

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Ask most people around here and they'll tell you that all dairy animals are forced to stand on red hot pokers while watching Jenny Jones reruns. Ask the dairy representatives, and you also probably won't receive an accurate picture of what goes on. <a href="http://veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?s=&threadid=6873" target="_blank">Here's a sample</a> of what happens when veg*ns write to the company.<br><br><br><br>
Really, the only way is to either see it for yourself, or get information from a reliable, unbiased source.
 

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Too tired to find the link, but in the Vegetarian & Vegan section I posted a response from Eggland regarding the treatment of their chickens... not particularly encouraging. I am lacto-ovo so I am in the same boat as you, though I haven't found any eggs or dairy products that I can eat without a good deal of guilt. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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I bet if you didn't eat eggs or dairy, you wouldn't feel anymore guilt. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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Heh, Im with epski on that one. Kinda what happened to me, I started reading and thinking about WHY people go vegan...felt awfula about it, and slowly did it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Soymilk is pretty healthy, and there are absolutely no cows involved, so no worries. Its alot more simple! Pllus,nearly all soymilk is organic and supplemented so you get equal vitamins- and much, less saturated fat.<br><br><br><br>
As for the eggs, if you REAALLY want them, try asking around your work friends to see if they have hens at home, you can probably buy some off of them.<br><br><br><br>
Or get 3 hens of your own, you ARE ALLOWED to in city limits. If you have them yourself, I betcha can make sure they be happy hens. One of my moms friends has some hens, so we sometimes buy a few eggs from her. And my mom makes me eat them. Juuuust somewhat awkward.<br><br><br><br>
PS This is a bad place to ask about humanely treated cows and hens....
 

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There are egg substitutes that are wonderful to use in baking, cooking, or for scrambled eggs. However they come in cartons or bottles so they won't work if you want a hard boiled egg or your eggs over easy.. but seriously people.. how hard is it to give up your eggs over easy for some scrambled fake eggs??? Not too hard if you really want to help out the poor chickens I say!
 

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Hey there, Chef Deb has a great omelette recipe that Mark and I love and a groovy Veg Mc Muffin recipe for everyone missing eggs. She even has a recipe for vegan french toast (untried by me). I gave up eggs and dairy because I felt bad about eating them knowing the chickens were treated poorly and milk, ugh! The cows are treated badly and milk is nasty :p Soy Milk is way better in my opinion and you can make your own almond-rice or almond-oat (or a mixture) and mix with the soy milk or drink on its own. There are egg replacers for every baking need (Ener-g, tofu, etc) and I do not miss dairy or eggs. Tofutti Cheese is great!<br><br>
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Tofu is a great egg replacer. It makes some killer cookies. MUCH better than eggs/whites! I used firm, though.<br><br><br><br>
You know, I used to buy Horizon, thinking I was doing SUCH a noble thing. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:"> Now that I know the truth, I start my day out with a glass of soy milk. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss cow's milk, but I feel better drinking soy. It's about time I gave up breastmilk, anyway. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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There are some things I like about this board and some I don't. I don't think that a vegetarian who eats eggs is all that bad a vegetarian or anything. My roomie did it for a long time. I did it up untill recently every now and then.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
As for organic eggs, my mom usually buys Phils Free Range eggs. They come white or brown. As for milk, I'm unsure about since I never drank the stuff.
 

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my biggest problem is thinking of the mucus our systems form to fight off the milk products - so gross, plus the drugs they give the animals ends up in your foods. I don't want that in my system if I can avoid it.
 
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