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For the past few days, whenever i've searched for something using Google, i've found that i get the usual results, but if i click on a site from the list, i end up being re-routed to some other random crappy search engine instead of the site i want to go to.<br><br><br><br>
the same thing happens if i cut and paste an url from my search result into the address bar, then try to go to it. if i type the address myself, it seems to sometimes struggle, but eventually go there, though (i watch a little conflict going on on the IE 'action in progress (don't know what its really called)' bit at the bottom left of the screen, lol). either way, its really beginning to annoy me.<br><br><br><br>
my nortons on this laptop has corrupted itself somehow (oh joy), so isn't being much help. i've run about 8 different cleanup, adware and spyware removing programs, and maybe one of them says is 'your homepage has been changed, do you want to change it back?' (which i do) and thats it... and the same problem happens the next time i open IE.<br><br><br><br>
nothing i've run has actually found and/or removed anything. i can't see anything obvious on 'add remove programs' or off my start menu, but then, if i was a broswer hijacker, i'd not really advertise myself. i haven't downloaded anything shady or been anywhere online that i feel is dodgy, either- as far as i know- which is why i'm perplexed.<br><br><br><br>
anyone have any suggestions for anything else i can do? any cheap or trialware programs anyone recommends, that might find and remove this for me?
 

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If Norton (I'm assuming you mean their antivirus program) has corrupted itself you could try AVG antivirus. It's really quite good, and totally free. I'd run the antivirus and see what happens. What were the 8 different cleanup/spyware programs by the way. If you're looking for a firewall 'til you get Norton's up and running again (if that's the way you go) Zone Alarm is a good, free, choice.
 

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Back up your important files.<br><br><br><br>
Reformat <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br><br><br>
It will be gone then.
 

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If you've already tried all the spyware and adware programs without success (and you can get your browser to go to the site) try downloading the <b>Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool</b>. It's picked up some stuff for me that the others haven't in the past.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx" target="_blank">http://www.microsoft.com/security/ma...e/default.mspx</a><br><br><br><br>
If that doesn't work, try reformatting like yellowduckie said. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Install firefox. <a href="http://www.firefox.com" target="_blank">www.firefox.com</a></div>
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Or <b>Opera</b> is another alternative that never really gets mentioned much on VB. IME, it's still faster than FF and stops way more pop ups.
 

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I am not really any help here, more I am trying to establish stuff you mean,<br><br><br><br>
and secondly to offer some insight about how you or I interpret the operation of Window ADD REMOVE/prog listing... (and its effectiveness or lack of)<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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(i watch a little conflict going on on the IE 'action in progress (don't know what its really called)' bit at the bottom left of the screen, lol). either way, its really beginning to annoy me.</div>
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What 'action in progress' is this DOWN ON YOUR LEFT?... "ON THE RIGHT" ON MOST WINDOWS I THINK? The 'time lapse run bar/ site load progress bar' is what you mean right? with green filler to indicate how far along progress is in the loading process of a site right?<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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nothing i've run has actually found and/or removed anything. i can't see anything obvious on 'add remove programs' or off my start menu, but then, if i was a broswer hijacker, i'd not really advertise myself.</div>
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Listings of installed software showing (or not showing frustratingly) in Add or Remove programs you've probably come to realized as I have, only usually shows the major or big programs is the impression i get...and even then I've never really been able to establish for absolute sure what the rules are about what types of program get listed (apart from maybe progs you manually ADD maybe), but just generally what show do as I say appear only to be major or big ones??<br><br>
All Questionable, but thats what I feel is the case BUT what governs what shows and how that works is the most questionable thing, and I don't know what the rules are about how ADD/REMOVE in windows gets off being like a limp biscuit....(so to speak) LOL..... (I suppose dependant on what has been uploaded /downloaded....Or added/removed I guess) but I just know I don't trust ADD/REMOVE panel to list everything on my PC you know....<br><br>
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WINDOWS, THE EVER ANNOYING MYSTERY.... I swear more and more, all I wanna do is take the pi$$ out of windows, sooooooooo anyway, easy to say, but DON'T BE DOWN ABOUT IT.... And if you'd rather a system change, you might somewhat adopt my attitude (whilst not complacent) is to basicly gradually move onto using other OS's, I meanwhile SLOWLY (yah) bid farewell to Windows....<br><br>
I'm gonna do this SLOWLY as I say, and as part of that along the way I will satisfy SOME of my past/present gripes and grievances by checking out some of the independant XP advice sites out there to build some awareness of the fact I've not at all been alone in facing many of Windows(XP) issues,<br><br>
and its part way consolation to know that many things DO have answer, but for which some things you could possibly need time to fix of course and to learn HOW TO (put right.....by following tutorials) etc.<br><br>
If TIME is a factor, obviously you'd need to find a quick fix site or someplace offering * quick advice TIPS* rather than lengthy patronizing or arduous lecturing tutorials. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Either way "independant help sites" (any site which is helpful and not overly/not at all biast basicly) are what tend to be "not patronizing/ nor anal" which is my general guideline I apply of how useful a site is going to be and what good for. (some advice sites offer both simple +complicated advice I'm sure).<br><br>
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And yeah your hijacker, if thats what it is would most likely not be making a debut entrance on the progs panel list to show where it is. :dumb:<br><br><br><br>
....(ps, I've only ever had one hijacker and that was something due to a phone company advertizment link I clicked on by accident I think) = "Vonage" (the company, Grr!!) and got in my favorites file or history file by itself and had the word "admtt" (something or other).<br><br>
I think eventually it just faded out of my system, I guess I got rid of it because I eventually renewed AND actually put Norton back on my system which I didn't have at the time.<br><br><br><br>
I also have AD-AWARE and Spybot, <i>(doesn't everyone <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">)</i> when I need to run them <b>and btw,</b> have not had conflict issues between those two freebies and Norton. You only have to uninstall AD-AWARE and Spybot when you are installing Norton. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Wait a bit and I MIGHT have more useful practical help (courtesy of a Rainbow_Clouds VBer from ages ago) which you can get by running some software and then going with the result to check with a free-advice expert which can then offer you a REAL potential/assured solution.<br><br><br><br>
BRB with this in a bit...<br><br><br><br>
ETA: still looking for the site she told me I could go to for help, and I KNOW I have it.... (wait another while, if you can)....
 

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You could always try a clean download of IE. I'd vote for an alternate browser though, as well.
 

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Or <b>Opera</b> is another alternative that never really gets mentioned much on VB. IME, it's still faster than FF and stops way more pop ups.</div>
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Does it have built in spellcheck? Just wondering.
 
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thankyou Kiz! i downloaded and installed AVG antivirus, and ran a full scan- i'll be kicking my bf's butt when he gets home because it turns out he had 8 trojans on this (his) laptop- not suprising considering he this morning he declared that his antivirus has been screwed for months now, and that he goes on some erm... interesting sites.<br><br><br><br>
i think thats what it was (a big fat pile of trojans), cos it seems (so far) to be fixed now! yey! i'll get that firewall sorted out asap too <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
This laptop has these cleanup/spyware/fixing stuff programs as well as the dreaded norton antivirus (i personally hate norton products... blah): ScanSpyware, NoAdware, BugDoctor, Xoftspy, Spyware Begone, and a couple of registry cleaning thingies, right now. we've got loads of other similar programs floating about round here somewhere though, just not installed.<br><br><br><br>
i thought i'd already ran a trojan remover too, but apparently not, i must have mixed it up with something installed on one of his other computers (i have stacks of hardrives, bits of circuit board looking things, and monitors and towers coming outta my ears in this appartment!).<br><br><br><br>
i do feel a bit stupid that i didn't think to install and run a trojan remover/that i thought i'd done it already.<br><br><br><br>
thanks to everyone who suggested a change in browser- its my bf's laptop, so i won't be doing that. i don't personally have big issues with IE on this laptop. he's not keen to swap browsers either- he's used a few other ones before and apparently he prefers IE.<br><br><br><br>
i'm personally hoping to suddenly find a big wodge of money has appeared in my bank account, so i can buy a superdeluxe mac laptop, and then lovingly frizbee this ancient (10+ years old) powerbook out of the 12th storey window into the foot of snow outside (i bet it'd still work afterwards too, lol)... and rid myself of microsoft once and for all, but have a feeling its unlikely to happen soon. until then, its not so bad that i can be bothered with the hassle of changing everything.
 
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VAgoth:<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">What 'action in progress' is this DOWN ON YOUR LEFT?... "ON THE RIGHT" ON MOST WINDOWS I THINK? The 'time lapse run bar/ site load progress bar' is what you mean right? with green filler to indicate how far along progress is in the loading process of a site right?</div>
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nope. if you look to the bottom LEFT of the screen in IE in xp (i think 98 and 200 too), you'll sometimes see a bit of text in the border, next to the IE logo.<br><br><br><br>
if you hover over a link, it shows you the url for the page it goes to (i think we've discussed this before), if there is an error on the webpage you're on, it says 'error', if you perform an action, when its done, it says 'done' and if you start to open a webpage it'll either say 'opening', followed by the name of the page, or say all kindsa technical stuff to do with opening the page, (it says a couple things in the process of opening hotmail, for example) etc.<br><br><br><br>
thats what i was talking about.<br><br><br><br>
when i tried to open my web pages, that bit in the left corner, it'd say 'opening[url of page i was trying to open]' then it'd switch to show the url that the hijacker was rerouting it to, and then it'd show my choice of url again, when IE tried to override it, and they'd squabble a bit between themselves for a while, before the trojan would win.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Listings of installed software showing (or not showing<br><br>
frustratingly) in Add or Remove programs you've probably come to<br><br>
realized as I have, only usually shows the major or big programs is the<br><br>
impression i get...and even then I've never really been able to<br><br>
establish for absolute sure what the rules are about what types of<br><br>
program get listed (apart from maybe progs you manually ADD maybe), but<br><br>
just generally what show do as I say appear only to be major or big<br><br>
ones??<br><br>
All Questionable, but thats what I feel is the case BUT what governs<br><br>
what shows and how that works is the most questionable thing, and I<br><br>
don't know what the rules are about how ADD/REMOVE in windows gets off<br><br>
being like a limp biscuit....(so to speak) LOL..... (I suppose dependant on what has been uploaded /downloaded....Or added/removed I guess) but I just know I don't trust ADD/REMOVE panel to list everything on my PC you know....</div>
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i know that nowhere near every program shows up in 'add-remove'. i'd<br><br>
assume that whether they do or not is dependant on whether or not the<br><br>
program creators put a bit in their programs that tells the OS to add<br><br>
them to 'add remove' or not. just like how they decide if their program<br><br>
has a shortcut and a taskbar icon or not, when they make it.<br><br><br><br>
i don't trust it as a method of seeing whats on my comp or not, either.<br><br><br><br>
i just mentioned that i'd looked there so that nobody said 'did you<br><br>
look for a program in 'add-remove' that you didn't install?'.<br><br><br><br>
like i said, if i was designing a program with the intent of it<br><br>
surupticiously existing in someones computer (like viruses and trojans)<br><br>
i'd not make it blatently obvious where i was putting it, so i didn't remotely expect to actually see it listed there are 'evil trojan' or similar, in 'add-remove'. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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VAgoth:<br><br>
nope. if you look to the bottom LEFT of the screen in IE in xp (i think 98 and 200 too), you'll sometimes see a bit of text in the border, next to the IE logo.<br><br><br><br>
if you hover over a link, it shows you the url for the page it goes to (i think we've discussed this before)</div>
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Indeed-effinoko !!!! We spoke bout it, when happening the naughty person that puts wrong url, that happen wrong, betraying the textus lingus of said url!!!<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">thats what i was talking about.</div>
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<div class="quote-block">IE tried to override it, and they'd squabble a bit between themselves for a while, before the trojan would win.</div>
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hehehe.... BAD BROWSER!!!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/whack.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":whack:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/kick.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":junk:"><br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">i know that nowhere near every program shows up in 'add-remove'. i'd assume that whether they do or not is dependant on whether or not the program creators put a bit in their programs that tells the OS to add them to 'add remove' or not. just like how they decide if their program has a shortcut and a taskbar icon or not, when they make it.</div>
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That is well interesting us, muchos gracious pour la informacions !!<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">i don't trust it as a method of seeing whats on my comp or not, either.</div>
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Indeed-effinoko !!!! me neither as I said :)<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">i just mentioned that i'd looked there so that nobody said 'did you<br><br>
look for a program in 'add-remove' that you didn't install?'</div>
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Absoluto, no twinge of a doubt now, thats Surijuku Sure!!!!!!<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">like i said, if i was designing a program with the intent of it surupticiously existing in someones computer (like viruses and trojans)<br><br>
i'd not make it blatently obvious where i was putting it, so i didn't remotely expect to actually see it listed there are 'evil trojan' or similar, in 'add-remove'. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"></div>
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Surijuku Sure!!!!!! ;-)<br><br>
(btw: I don'teth neither claim 'Surijuku' <b>or</b> 'indeed-effinoko' to be real words) :p<br><br><br><br><br><br>
Assessemonto Completo Pending Further and Better Salutant Solutionioni!!!!<br><br>
Comprehende del moi... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Please forgive my entertainment of you!!! I am still at the same time taking the serious with a pinch of humorous peppering <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> j/k<br><br><br><br><br><br>
V~Apeth~Goth, thanketh you for feedback!!!!
 

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Does it have built in spellcheck? Just wondering.</div>
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No, but if you attempt to do a spellcheck (it is built into the right-click popup) it will send you to the site that has the add-on, if you give it permission to do so. I've had to uninstall this version of Opera once in the past (due to other software problems) but it never uninstalled the spellcheck, so I guess it's a separate program elsewhere on the drive and knows where to look in subsequent installations.<br><br><br><br>
I've been using Opera since version 3.5 (it's at ver. 9.1 now) and it's always been the best browser out there. I honestly <i>tried</i> firefox, but it was just too difficult to figure out. And the idea of having to modify ini files just to make things work in it that were already built into Opera was a big turn-off.<br><br><br><br>
I also highly recommend AVG. I went over to their free one a couple of years ago and it even found trojans I had on the drive from several years back that neither Norton nor McAfee ever noticed. I was "sold" on it then <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> I recently upgraded to their pay version of both the anti-virus and the firewall. I had some problems in the past with Zone Alarm and downloading torrents, but those problems don't seem to exist with AVG's firewall. And I do go to "questionable" sites <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"><br><br><br><br>
Good luck with whatever route you go <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Install firefox. <a href="http://www.firefox.com" target="_blank">www.firefox.com</a></div>
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I so very much love firefox and all the addons!!!!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:"> Anyway, I use <a href="http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/home.jsp" target="_blank">Zone Alarm Security Suite</a>, well worth every penny! It would absolutely prevent this kind of thing from happening.
 

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I had that happen to me when I was still using Windows. Download Ad-Aware and Spybot. Those should take care of your problem.<br><br><br><br>
Both are free:<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.download.com/Ad-Aware-SE-Personal-Edition/3000-8022_4-10045910.html?part=dl-ad-aware&subj=dl&tag=top5" target="_blank">http://www.download.com/Ad-Aware-SE-...bj=dl&tag=top5</a><br><br><a href="http://www.download.com/3000-8022-10122137.html" target="_blank">http://www.download.com/3000-8022-10122137.html</a>
 

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thanks to everyone who suggested a change in browser- its my bf's laptop, so i won't be doing that. i don't personally have big issues with IE on this laptop. he's not keen to swap browsers either- he's used a few other ones before and apparently he prefers IE.</div>
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You need to try and convince him that he's crazy for sticking with IE. It's well known to be one big security hole that you just happen to be able to browse with <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> and he's probably always going to have some problem or other if he continues to surf around with it.<br><br><br><br>
It would take very little of his time to d/load FF or Opera or both, and if he actually saw how much faster and easier both browsers are in comparison to IE, he would probably say why the eff didn't I do this before! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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What's wrong with having both on the one computer? You can use Firefox and he can stick with IE.
 

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Or you could have firefox, IE <b>and</b> Opera! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:">
 
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