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I've been so concious about eating meat the past few days, I even picked the pepperoni off of my pizza last night, and today for lunch I ate 2 tacos without even realizing it! I feel so bad right now, because I feel like I've totally failed at becoming a vegetarian! GRRRR! I guess giving up meat all at once wasn't such a good idea...anyway...I hope that's the last bit of meat I eat, and I'll try to be more concious about what I eat in the future.<br><br><br><br>
Has this happened to any of you? Did you ever eat meat without realizing it, until after the fact? How did you feel, any advice to make sure it doesn't happen again?<br><br><br><br>
Thanks in advance.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by beautiful fire</i><br><br><b>Has this happened to any of you?</b></div>
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I suspect it's pretty common. I was 16 when I turned vegetarian. Similar things happened, especially in my clique-ey little group I ran with - we'd eat McD's and pizza 3 times a day. My advice? Go meal by meal. For example, start with eliminating meat at breakfast (tends to be the easiest for most people) and once you're confident with it, move on to another meal. My experience has been that once you eliminate meat from all the easier mealtimes and circumstances, it'll become easier to resist it at the harder times.<br><br><br><br>
I don't know anyone who didn't gradually do the transition. All "sudden" vegetarians I've known went back to the dark side.
 

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One day I was loving meat and the next I was a vegetarian; no transition period at all. Never went back to 'the dark side'. I realize that this may be rare..I've also done the same with smokes after 20+ years.<br><br><br><br>
The thing that reinforces my decision for me is factual information on the farming industry and the processing of the animals. Read all you can about what you are/were eating when you eat/ate animals. Go to <a href="http://www.farmsanctuary.com." target="_blank">www.farmsanctuary.com.</a> Do a google on beef or pork or chicken farms/processing plants. Do you know what other crap is in pepperoni? If you did you probably wouldn't have even ate that pizza (even though you picked off the pepperoni's there's still the greasy residue left). Start looking up the ingredients on stuff to find out what's <i>really</i> being sold as food to the general population. Some if not most additive are just nasty. And the antibiotics they have to give factory farmed animals...they are on them for a reason. Animals that have tumors and disease (at certain levels) are still served up as 'food'. I find it disgusting to stop for a minute and think of eating an animals tumor that may be ground up in a hamburger for example.<br><br><br><br>
Believe me. Knowledge is your best defense.
 

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I stopped all meat 1 week before Thanksgiving one year [had to] (3-4years ago I think). As far as eating meat (ex: tacos) I've never done, although for the first year I was beginning, so made some unintentional slipups. I wouldn't "pick off" meat, but I'd eat food that was close to other meat (ie: pizza 1/2 pepporoni, 1/2 cheese, I'd just make a 1/4 in cut in pieces by the pepporoni side). Won't even let meat that close to my food now.<br><br><br><br>
MsRuthieB's would be useful if your in it for animal rights primarially (some meat eaters talk about preparing their fresh kill while eating, and doesn't phase them).<br><br><br><br>
My idea's similar to Max Power's: I'd try to make sure not to eat meat in any meal; you might have to keep on thinking "no meat, no meat" or check into options at fast food places and others that you can eat and keep on repeating to yourself before you go in. Given your early stage, if meat's in something and you forget, pick it out (it'd be a lot easier to remember, and by doing this, it'll be in your mind of "next time remember no chicken").<br><br><br><br>
It'd be hard I'd think from going into a restaurant and saying: "chicken salad" every day to "salad", especially at first. There were a few times that I'd be hungry for something, so I'd go through the ingredients in my mind, then realize that it had meat in it, so I couldn't.<br><br><br><br>
[edited to fix spelling of chicken]
 

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You're definitely not the only one to have this happen to. My husband has tried to become vegetarian a couple times and he always seemed to eat meat without realizing it. I think that when something like this has been a part of your life for so long that it's pretty much second nature. However, the more you practice it, the more conscious of what you're eating you'll become.<br><br><br><br>
I never had this problem with meat, but I definitely have it with other animal products. It's not so bad at home because I really pay attention to what I buy, but at other people's houses and such, it can slip my mind to think about it. However, I do find that I'm getting better at it.<br><br><br><br>
Don't feel bad. Perfection isn't attainable. All that matters is that you keep trying and do your best, which I certainly think you are! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Thank you very much for the support. It's gonna be really hard for me to do this because my family orders out all the time, and on pizza they get pepperoni without thinking of me. They got tacos, and I just thought of it as lunch. I'm so use to eating it all of the time, that it didn't faze me.<br><br><br><br>
It's gonna be hard, because, like me, my family is also overweight, and they buy all the snack foods and meat foods for themselves, that I'm trying to give up. Being around them all the time is gonna be hard, because I know they'll always be there if I wanted to eat them.<br><br><br><br>
Next time my mother goes grocery shopping, I'll definetly pick out things just for me. And try and remind her that I can't eat all the things they can in the future. I hope that they can realize that this is important and that I need support. And them ordering meat fast food items, doesn't always help.<br><br><br><br>
Anyway, thank you for the responses, and I'll keep all of your advice in mind. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Max brought up a really good point...I'm really into the whole gradual thing! It worked so well for me that I can't help but enthuse about it. Repeatedly. ^^;;<br><br><br><br>
And definitely, breakfast is the easiest meal to work on first, since a lot of people don't eat meat for breakfast, anyway. Cereal is vegetarian...it's not like you can buy Sausage-Os.<br><br><br><br>
(Creepy. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/inquisitive.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":stinkeye:"> )<br><br><br><br>
Although you do have to watch out for gelatin. Nasty stuff, that.<br><br><br><br>
Another good thing to do is to look out for the obvious things first. Avoid the big hunk of flesh in the sandwich, but don't stress about whether or not there's beef extract in the fries. (McD's, anyone? <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:"> )<br><br><br><br>
Lunch was the hardest for me, because I used to love sandwiches with meat on them...ham sandwiches, bologna sandwiches, turkey sandwiches...I loved them all. Dinner wasn't that hard, either, because I could always get pasta and such.<br><br><br><br>
Now, of course, it's a little more challenging for me 'cause I'm eliminating cheese. Oh, gooey congealed milk-substance, I long for you still... *heart goes thumpity-thump*<br><br><br><br>
Ms. Ruthie's suggestion to check factual sources when you feel tempted is helpful, also. Sort of a reminder of <i>why</i> you're doing this...it's very useful.<br><br><br><br>
Good luck, hon. Keep posting and we'll keep supporting you. ^_^
 

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I did that- the unintended meat-eating thing- my sister was making some chicken dish, and without thinking about it, I grabbed a spoon and tasted it, even though I had gone vegetarian a month or so before. Only half an hour later it hit me that whopsee <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/inquisitive.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":stinkeye:"> , I ate chicken..?! My sister, of course, found it hilarious <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> Well, I haven't eaten meat since, and that's three years ago, it quickly became second nature, -don't worry if it takes a while, nobody's judging you because you're not an "Instant Veg*an" , take your time, allow yourself to faile, you'll get it right eventually. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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I've never unconsciously ordered or eaten meat while out. My reasons for avoiding it are so strong that I can't forget. I <i>have</i> bought items at the grocery store with whey (that's the most common one I miss on the label, because the word is so short, and I scan so fast), but I simply take the item back for store credit or a refund. My wife or I will usually catch the mistake before it's too late.
 

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Don't worry too much. Just don't let slip ups like this get you down. Stuff like that happens. But once you're used to being vegetarian, you'll find it easier.
 

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I only struggled with the transition to veganism. I "fell off the wagon" numerous times... Now, I carry a picture of a broken down dairy cow in my wallet.
 

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This still happens to me. Like I thought a left over lentil soup in my work fridge was mine, and I ended up with a mouthful of chicken lentil. And once my brother made a cheese pizza and I had the leftover. Well I kept thinking, "boy this sauce has a lot of spice to it." turns our I ate an entire piece of Italian sausage pizza bc it was under the cheese. I just moved on, no biggie.<br><br><br><br>
I find that it is far easier to stick to a veg diet for ethical reasons than health reasons as said above. In your introduction, you mentioned losing weight as a prime reason. You may want to take this opportunity to learn more about animals for food. Like <a href="http://www.whyvegan.org/whyvegan/" target="_blank">http://www.whyvegan.org/whyvegan/</a> or the farm sanctuary link above (Farm Sanctuary also created a site: <a href="http://www.factoryfarming.com/" target="_blank">http://www.factoryfarming.com/</a>)<br><br><br><br>
You may lose weight from a veg diet bc you are initially eliminating foods and not finding things to replace them all with. You may also greatly reduce calories from fat. But in the long run, if vegetarian is the only means of controlling your diet you may end up (as I have done) finding all kinds of great vegetarian and even vegan high calorie foods to munch on. So whatever kind of diet you have, don't do what I do; keep it balanced, nutritious, and not too much junk.
 

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I'm like MRB, I gave up meat 5 months ago and have not once lapsed. So it is possible to be a sudden veg without going back to the dark side. Keep in mind the idea had been fermenting for a LONG time with me... so when I made the decision that was it. No going back.<br><br><br><br>
However I realise a lot of people don't do it like that so don't fret, keep at it and you'll eventually wonder what you ever saw in meat...
 

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Ms. Ruthie -<br><br>
I actually forgot about all the tumor ridden animals that are passed on for human consumption. Aside from the humane aspect of not eating animals - shouldnt that be enough not to eat them? How nasty- not too mention everything they jam them up with - hormones and antibiotics..<br><br><br><br>
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I've been a vegaterian for 2 months. My husband is a meat eater,so when I fixed his meals, it was tempting, soo, slipped once. Now I'm able to fix a meal for him and me at the same time. Fix his meat dish and the rest of the meal...veggies, salads, pasta etc. I share with him.<br><br>
I know it's difficult being the only vegetarian in a family of meat eaters, but hang in there, it will become easier when you realize how much better you feel.
 

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I know I have slipped up here. Sometimes I think I've understood the whole label, then a few weeks later I learn a few more words, or more kanji and I get an unwelcome surprise.<br><br>
But that's life! I just move on and try to not let it happen again.<br><br>
I really that things which aren't a challenge are not worth it. And being veg*n is a challenge every day - even if you prepare all your own food, it is still possible to slip up because of mislabelling etc.<br><br>
Don't worry about it. Just try again! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Thanks <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Schoska</i><br><br>
I understood the whole label, then a few weeks later I learn a few more words, <b>or more kanji</b> and I get an unwelcome surprise.<br></div>
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Oh My! Schoska - you live in Japan!?<br><br>
Me too! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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indeedly!! In sunny (VERY sunny at present) Tokyo!!<br><br>
WAAA another person in Japan! WOW!!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/carrot.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":vebo:">
 

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Beautiful Fire: Don't be so hard on yourself <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> As with anything, there is a certain learning curve involved in becoming vegetarian or vegan. It takes time to learn how to avoid animal-based foods, and sometimes slip-ups happen. Just learn from your mistakes, educate yourelf, and move on. The important thing is that you're making the effort to come away from eating animals, and you'll get better at it with practice <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Here's a little tidbit that might make it easier for you: about 90% of all recipes can be made vegetarian or vegan by substituting just one or two ingredients. ANY nut or grain "milk" milk subs for dairy, measure-for-measure; a rich veggie stock subs for meat-based stock in almost any recipe; 1Tbsp soy flour+1Tbsp oil or water subs for an egg in baked goods (you can replace ALL of the eggs this way). A mix of cooked beans can sub deliciously for meat in almost any soup, and in almost all "mexican-type" recipes.
 
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