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I know a guy who will go into the dumpster and get the food that omivores have discarded.<br>
As you all know we are nation of wasters. He doesn't eat anything gross or half eaten. Its stuff like expired doughnuts, cookies,etc still in packaging. He will sometimes eat non vegan food that will literally go to a landfill if he didn't. He is a strick vegan otherwise. How would the vegan police see this?
 

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I say cool! I don't have an ethical problem with it, there's just the icky factor maybe but I've seen the Dumpster Diving thread so I know people can find clean good stuff.<br><br>
But if he's eating meat he's not vegetarian, and if he's eating things with other animal products he's not vegan either, that's just what the definitions of the words are. For the sake of not making things way too confusing we can't call someone who eats eggs and dairy vegan.<br><br>
There are a lot of times in my life where I could potentially eat animal products without increasing demand for animal products at all. IE free food at parties, free creamer at work, food other people buy, etc. But I don't because being vegan isn't just about supply and demand, it's the idea that we don't need animal products and they aren't ours to take.<br><br>
I'd say your friend is a pretty cool omni (or vegetarian if he doesn't ever eat meat) dude who eats a mostly vegan diet and doesn't financially contribute to animal suffering.
 

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I dumpster dive a lot. I don't eat anything with animal products. I pass (non meat) on to people that can appreciate it, to prevent them spending cash on industries, but I would never eat non-vegan food, even if it were free. Read <i>Evasion</i> and you can see that it's possible to subsist on dumpstered/stolen food and retain a strictly vegan diet.<br><br>
It's up to the individual though, and I would rather people dumpstered food with animal products than bought them. Just my two cents, I don't think there's a right or wrong answer here.
 

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I would have no reservations about dumpster diving behind a grocery store for canned goods and day old unopened products if I were in a postion of watching my family starve or jumping in.<br><br>
as long as I can afford to shop the food while it is still on the shelf, or I can grow my own, I will leave the diving to those that are currently in the position to need the free food.<br><br>
And yes, to me there is an ick factor involved, even if its still in the can. But then, I do have OCD when it comes to things like that.... I cant even stay in a hotel, and if I go out to eat, I bring my own fork, knife and spoon from home. Sometimes it sucks to be me, but its something that I just cant get over.
 

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as long as I can afford to shop the food while it is still on the shelf, or I can grow my own, I will leave the diving to those that are currently in the position to need the free food</div>
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This is actually a pet peeve of mine, in my area some people that dive are clearing out the bins completely for themselves, taking way more than they need and leaving nothing for anyone else. There is easily enough to sustain a good dozen people across the few dumpsters there are, but I think that some are getting greedy and see other divers as competition rather than friends and comrades in bins. It's a little saddening, so allow me to thank you there Fatman for NOT diving when you don't need to, because a lot of people do it for the lifestyle points when they can get warm food at home.
 

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This is actually a pet peeve of mine, in my area some people that dive are clearing out the bins completely for themselves, taking way more than they need and leaving nothing for anyone else. There is easily enough to sustain a good dozen people across the few dumpsters there are, but I think that some are getting greedy and see other divers as competition rather than friends and comrades in bins. It's a little saddening, so allow me to thank you there Fatman for NOT diving when you don't need to, because a lot of people do it for the lifestyle points when they can get warm food at home.</div>
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Yea, I guess there is a code of honor involved.<br>
The guy I know will sometimes pass it on to the homeless people in the area if he doesn't really need it.
 

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I buy my food from the store. I make a point to support vegan and environmentally friendly companies as often as I can as well. I think that's important.<br><br>
I don't really know how I feel about people saying they are vegan and eating non-vegan food if it's discarded... I wouldn't do it, I know that. I mean, I won't eat a few bites of cheesecake just because a friend is about to pitch the rest of his in the garbage. My body is not fueled with that tainted and cruel crap, period.<br><br>
I can appreciate the argument that dumpster diving doesn't increase the demand for animal products (and is probably an environmentally responsible thing to do)... But I'm going to continue to do my part by not increasing the demand for animal products WHILE increasing the demand for plant-based products.
 

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Nice! I wanna start dumpster diving but I don't live in the best area sadly. It sucks. I forage for food though, which is kind of similar.
 

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Nice! I wanna start dumpster diving but I don't live in the best area sadly. It sucks. I forage for food though, which is kind of similar.</div>
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I'd love to be able to forage. I know where to get berries, but that's about it. We're kept very blinded and apart from our surroundings.
 

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I don't really know how I feel about people saying they are vegan and eating non-vegan food if it's discarded... I wouldn't do it, I know that. I mean, I won't eat a few bites of cheesecake just because a friend is about to pitch the rest of his in the garbage. My body is not fueled with that tainted and cruel crap, period.</div>
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I agree. Sounds more like a freegan.
 

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Got LOADS of stuff in the bins today. Lots of French fancies, breads, etc. The ones with eggs I am giving away to others. I think when you're dumpster diving sharing it with others and being more actively communally is important and actually very easy. So I don't see why a vegan diver wouldn't be able to trade or whatever with others that they know. Nothing should be lonely.
 

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Yep. Guy's a freegan. Good for him! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:">
 

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Got LOADS of stuff in the bins today. Lots of French fancies, breads, etc. The ones with eggs I am giving away to others. I think when you're dumpster diving sharing it with others and being more actively communally is important and actually very easy. So I don't see why a vegan diver wouldn't be able to trade or whatever with others that they know. Nothing should be lonely.</div>
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That's a great philosophy!
 

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I'd love to be able to forage. I know where to get berries, but that's about it. We're kept very blinded and apart from our surroundings.</div>
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I'm just getting heavily into it and it's really fun. I don't know what's to offer in the UK, but I'm sure you can find some books/vids online about what you have in your area that's edible. I'm sure you have dandelions, everyone does. Every part of the dandelion is edible.
 

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I'd love to be able to forage. I know where to get berries, but that's about it. We're kept very blinded and apart from our surroundings.</div>
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Many years ago, MANY<br>
When I went into the navy I chose a rate that forced me to do survival training in some pretty rough areas, rain jungle, northern Alaska etc... To this day you can drop me off in any remote location and I will eat. Maybe not good, but I WILL eat. did you know that in Alaska, or anywhere that there is heavy snow and perma frost, you can dig down on the coldest of days and get lucky with vegitation that is already starting to sprout?<br><br>
Of course, to survive in these areas, you better be ready to bite into some meat of some sort too.
 

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I want to find a mycology club near me actually, because mushrooms are perhaps understandably that thing that I don't trust the internet to teach me about well. Dandelions I can, however, find plenty of.
 

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I agree. Sounds more like a freegan.</div>
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I was specifically going to mention Freeganism. It definitely sounds more along those lines.<br>
As for me personally, I'm not against the whole dumpster diving thing. I don't eat half of the things I've seen thrown away, but if someone could make use of them I say go for it.
 

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I want to find a mycology club near me actually, because mushrooms are perhaps understandably that thing that I don't trust the internet to teach me about well. Dandelions I can, however, find plenty of.</div>
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I know you're looking for foraging for mushrooms, but some of my friends are extremely into mycology and grow (easily and cheaply) tons of mushrooms in their apartment. You should totally look into that, it's awesome to watch the things they have going. Right now I know the guy is growing pink oyster mushrooms and the girl just got part of an agar tray to grow winecaps. If you take the time and energy to grow them...it's just insanely INSANELY cheap (you can go to mycology forums and trade cultures with people for free or just pay shipping) and get some really nice specimens (^_^)
 

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I know you're looking for foraging for mushrooms, but some of my friends are extremely into mycology and grow (easily and cheaply) tons of mushrooms in their apartment. You should totally look into that, it's awesome to watch the things they have going. Right now I know the guy is growing pink oyster mushrooms and the girl just got part of an agar tray to grow winecaps. If you take the time and energy to grow them...it's just insanely INSANELY cheap (you can go to mycology forums and trade cultures with people for free or just pay shipping) and get some really nice specimens (^_^)</div>
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Tried this in the past, but I haven't had a very stable living arrangement recently. If I ever find a hidden spot in the city though, might just start a wee mushroom garden <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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Am I the only one with concerns about rooting around in a dumpster? Maybe I'm just paranoid, but the last thing I want is to be stabbed in the hand by some junkie's used needle.
 
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