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I want to become a hermit somewhere but I always get lonely! People upset me so much with their simple minded, childish, illogical thoughts.<br><br>
Maybe im being childish myself. I feel drained <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br>
Anyone else feel this way?<br><br>
Last year I took a month off from work because I couldnt handle it anymore. I guess the real problem is that people arent very accepting. This is just an example that im sure you will identify with. Being a Vgean or vegetarian. Noone seems to ACCEPT it.<br><br>
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I wasnt focusing on the vegan thing I just meant that as an example like race tollerance could be another thing or sexism etc. It seems like people get all fired up over things that are insignificant or stupid or just plain weird.
 

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other veg folk can/are just as annoying. it's just people. you learn to deal or get far far away and deal with loneliness.
 

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I spoke to a councillor once. He told me to deal with reality or drop out of it. Not sure if a proffesional councilor should be condoning drug use or suicide not sure what he meant to be honest with you but sounded bad either way.
 

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not trying to be cruel or anything... really...but maybe you may be a little too sensitive?<br>
you accept yourself. that's it. who cares what others think? don't let them control your behavior. i know its not easy but being upset only takes a toll on you, not them.
 

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Move to California.<br>
Golden State.<br><br>
Aim for the Bay Area, very veg friendly. And lots of pretty girls. What's not to like?
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>imdead-goaway</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2884559"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
What's not to like?</div>
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It's expensive. Wasn't all that veg friendly when I was there. No more pretty girls than anywhere else. Mostly dealt with stupid people when I lived there, and most of the most anti-veg confrontations I had with people happened there.. I was getting C's, D's and F's in school in Missouri, moved out there, took some test, and they threw my dumb ass into an honors English class, cause I did so well on the test, by their standards.<br><br>
Most suitable weather for me though, of any place I've ever lived. If I could afford it, I'm give it a try again just cause of that.
 

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It's expensive. Wasn't all that veg friendly when I was there. No more pretty girls than anywhere else. Mostly dealt with stupid people when I lived there, and most of the most anti-veg confrontations I had with people happened there.. I was getting C's, D's and F's in school in Missouri, moved out there, took some test, and they threw my dumb ass into an honors English class, cause I did so well on the test, by their standards.<br><br>
Most suitable weather for me though, of any place I've ever lived. If I could afford it, I'm give it a try again just cause of that.</div>
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How about we shove the California bashing?
 

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wrong thread, but Cali is way overrated.
 

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Firstly, I'm sorry to hear that you're feeling this way. If you needed a month off of work last year, you must feel very depressed and stressed. What exactly is going on at work to make you feel unaccepted? There has to be more to this story.<br><br>
Are you being harassed or bullied by people at work?<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Kindred</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2884540"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I spoke to a councillor once. He told me to deal with reality or drop out of it. Not sure if a proffesional councilor should be condoning drug use or suicide not sure what he meant to be honest with you but sounded bad either way.</div>
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It's hard to tell whether he's just an unprofessional counsellor or it's your interpretation of what he said. However, after all the talking about how you feel is done, those generally, are the options in this life. So he's right, but he could've put it to you in a way where he got you to realise that, but without it sounding like he's condoning dropping out.
 

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Kindred, this is how I feel every day... I deal with it. It sucks, but that's how it is. I could probably save up 100k over a few years and just go buy a shack and live off lentils until I die.. but that sounds like it sucks a lot more than dealing with the suffering in the city. I have most evenings free.. and those are the precious moments when I relax and take time for myself.
 

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wrong thread, but Cali is way overrated.</div>
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I'm sorry, I didn't realize you didn't like watching the movies produced in <b>Hollywood</b> (whether you see them in theaters or have them delivered by <b>Netflix</b>), or using your computer to access websites such as <b>Google, Yahoo, Youtube, Facebook, and Ebay.</b> Or 90% of wine grown in the U.S in the gorgeous <b>Napa Valley</b>. Or MLB World Series Champs. Or Great Surf. Or (so I've heard) some of the best weed. Or the gorgeous highways that will take you anywhere from San Francisco to Oakland to Berkley to Santa Cruz to Los Angeles to San Diego.<br>
Expensive? You bet. It's worth it when you want to live in a place that's this fantastic, as well as being the 7th largest economy. In the world.<br>
Overrated? People have been flocking here since the mid-Eighteen Hundreds, at least.<br>
Think you know California? Please. It would take you literally 24 hours just to drive the length of this state. I have a hard time believing you've embraced the people, cultures, and flavors along the way.<br><br>
New York aside, I challenge you to produce a U.S. state that even <i>compares</i> to California.
 

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I'm sorry, I didn't realize you didn't like watching the movies produced in <b>Hollywood</b> (whether you see them in theaters or have them delivered by <b>Netflix</b>), or using your computer to access websites such as <b>Google, Yahoo, Youtube, Facebook, and Ebay.</b> Or 90% of wine grown in the U.S in the gorgeous <b>Napa Valley</b>. Or MLB World Series Champs. Or Great Surf. Or (so I've heard) some of the best weed. Or the gorgeous highways that will take you anywhere from San Francisco to Oakland to Berkley to Santa Cruz to Los Angeles to San Diego.<br>
Expensive? You bet. It's worth it when you want to live in a place that's this fantastic, as well as being the 7th largest economy. In the world.<br>
Overrated? People have been flocking here since the mid-Eighteen Hundreds, at least.<br>
Think you know California? Please. It would take you literally 24 hours just to drive the length of this state. I have a hard time believing you've embraced the people, cultures, and flavors along the way.<br><br>
New York aside, I challenge you to produce a U.S. state that even <i>compares</i> to California.</div>
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I love you. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I'm sorry, I didn't realize you didn't like watching the movies produced in <b>Hollywood</b> (whether you see them in theaters or have them delivered by <b>Netflix</b>), or using your computer to access websites such as <b>Google, Yahoo, Youtube, Facebook, and Ebay.</b> Or 90% of wine grown in the U.S in the gorgeous <b>Napa Valley</b>. Or MLB World Series Champs. Or Great Surf. Or (so I've heard) some of the best weed. Or the gorgeous highways that will take you anywhere from San Francisco to Oakland to Berkley to Santa Cruz to Los Angeles to San Diego.<br>
Expensive? You bet. It's worth it when you want to live in a place that's this fantastic, as well as being the 7th largest economy. In the world.<br>
Overrated? People have been flocking here since the mid-Eighteen Hundreds, at least.<br>
Think you know California? Please. It would take you literally 24 hours just to drive the length of this state. I have a hard time believing you've embraced the people, cultures, and flavors along the way.<br><br>
New York aside, I challenge you to produce a U.S. state that even <i>compares</i> to California.</div>
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In my own experience, life as a semi-hermit (I've never gone all the way) has its ups and downs. I didn't miss trying to make small talk with co-workers and fellow students, enjoyed not having the external pressures of work or school life. I like being able to manage my own time, to put my energies into whatever projects, tasks <i>I</i> want to work on.<br><br>
On the other hand, if you take it too far, do it too long, you run the risk of getting to a point where life starts to feel a bit meaningless/pointless. Perhaps ultimately life really is those things. I think it probably is. Nevertheless, it remains important, for our own human flourishing, to make meaning for ourselves, and that involves interaction with others, and for me, interaction with people specifically. I love other animals, but I need to connect with people. I certainly need time away from people, too, sometimes, but it's a question of balance.
 

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New York aside, I challenge you to produce a U.S. state that even <i>compares</i> to California.</div>
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If I had to leave Australia, I would pick there to live for sure. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> I specifically like LA. The only thing that spoils it for me is the pollution in comparison to where I live. It's too much for me and I have to leave after a while so I can breathe clean air again.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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In my own experience, life as a semi-hermit (I've never gone all the way) has its ups and downs. I didn't miss trying to make small talk with co-workers and fellow students, enjoyed not having the external pressures of work or school life. I like being able to manage my own time, to put my energies into whatever projects, tasks <i>I</i> want to work on.<br><br>
On the other hand, if you take it too far, do it too long, you run the risk of getting to a point where life starts to feel a bit meaningless/pointless. Perhaps ultimately life really is those things. I think it probably is. Nevertheless, it remains important, for our own human flourishing, to make meaning for ourselves, and that involves interaction with others, and for me, interaction with people specifically. I love other animals, but I need to connect with people. I certainly need time away from people, too, sometimes, but it's a question of balance.</div>
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I totally agree with you on that.
 

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I spoke to a councillor once. He told me to deal with reality or drop out of it.</div>
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i've thought very deeply about just how much isolation i need. the answer to that is quite a lot. and not because other people suck. people are, for the most part, wonderful. despite that, i need the space to think and explore who i am. i'm 6 minutes from the edge of the city, which is both close enough and far enough for me.<br><br>
i can't stand the idea of liiving in a house in a neat little row of a giant grid, with hardly enough space to stretch your arms between houses without touching two of them. i much prefer to live in a magical world of plants and animals, with at least enough distance from the city lights to clearly see the night sky. fortunately, my next door neighbor and i have enough combined land by less than an acre to prevent the formation of a neighborhood association within this development. i didn't move out here to be told what i can and cannot do. and i don't want the road paved either.
 

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Calling California "Cali" is overrated.<br><br>
For Kindred, I see what you mean and I often feel the same way. The things that keep me sane are the few people who share my values, distractions like books and TV, regular sunlight and some exercise (walking or hiking), simple joys like happy baby and animals, tasty vegan food, and feeling like I'm making a difference. Being a part of something - vegan advocacy - sometimes helps remind me that hope isn't just possible, it's necessary.
 
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