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At first I was doing just great with this, I didn't even think twice about meat.<br><br>
I started getting thoughts here and there but it didnt become a problem until I went to my doctor, I dont know if I mentioned this before but I was recovering from an eating disorder , So my doctor was giving me a checkup and said that Ive been the same weight for the past 2 years and that I havent changed, I told him about my decision to become a vegetarian possibly being the reason why my weight gain hast been that much, but also it was morning and I hadn't eaten breakfast and weight correlates throughout the day for me anyway, I gaine up to 2 pounds by the time it is night and when I wake up Im down 2 pounds..so I dont know why he acted so surprised. So anyway he kept blabbing on and on about how my decision was a poor one and how its unhealthy and its absolutely HORRIBLE that I became a vegetarian and said that all animals eat eachother im missing too many nutrients blah blah, I told him that I really didnt want to go back to eating meat and I asked him if he could suggest a plan for me to follow to recieve the required amount of nutrients in my diet but he said nothing , his advice was all negative and useless. I really really really want to be healthy and I really love animals , but i find myself having second thoughts and even putting myself in situation where I would have to have a taste, noone in my family is being much help either they keep asking " dont you miss meat" making soup with chicken broth and I say..that has chicken " oh its not meat, vegetarians dont eat meat right?" , I was sick and I was starving and was to weak to prepare a meal , I know its no excuse but I ate it so I could save myself a lecture about eating "right". What should I do?, I really want to be able to do this but it seems like a chore , I felt like I was forcing myself to eat a plate of broccoli than enjoying it. What should I do to not feel like im missing out on anything? Sorry this is long. I just dont find eating a plate of salad that appetizing I really want to but I dont, so I end up eating a plate of spagetti, Then I feel guilty for not eating vegetables...I just dont know what to eat. I keep eating spagetti or bread. with a little lettuce. ugh..HELP ..sorry again its so long
 

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Nice wall of text you have there. :p<br><br><br><br>
I'm pretty sure that almost everyone here'll back me up when I tell you there's far more to a veg*an diet than bread and spaghetti. My advice to you is to look over this and decide whether or not going veggie is right for you. If it is, then you'll have to take a strong arm in the cooking of your own meals.<br><br><br><br>
Try experimenting! I love going grocery shopping and buying stuff that I've never tried before, then taking it home and seeing what I make of it. Like, last week, I bought some huge mushrooms, stuffed them with some onions and tomatos, grilled them and slapped it on a wholemeal roll (pseudo-burger-bun).<br><br><br><br>
There's also a huge selections of recipes in the recipe forums too. If you show some determination in this, support from your family with follow eventually.
 

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you're recovering from an eating disorder. please throw away your scale. i am not currently suffering from an eating disorder, but i never weigh myself, because how you feel and look is what matters.<br><br><br><br>
if you need an educated doctor, you should be able to find one nearby, i hope. i'm sorry that you got harassed by someone who wasn't knowledgeable.
 

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You need the book the "Becoming Vegetarian" by Melina and Davis. There's a lot of nutrients you probably are missing if you're just eating spaghetti and vegetables.<br><br><br><br>
Just advice for meals that might help you gain a little weight, I found that when I first went veg, I bought a lot of "fake meat" burgers as transition foods. I like the Boca chicken patties (vegan) and Morningstar grillers (not vegan). Put them on a bun, and you've got a decent calorie/protein count.<br><br><br><br>
Also, I highly recommend Silk fortified soy milk, at least until you've looked into the nutrition seriously and come up with other sources of vitamin B12 and omega-3 fatty acids (not that Silk has enough omega-3, but it's a start).<br><br><br><br>
But seriously, get that book. It'll teach you how to be a healthy vegetarian.<br><br><br><br>
--Fromper<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/juggle.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":juggle:">
 

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Eat real food... if I were your doctor I'd be freaking out over salad, bread, and spaghetti too. Whole grain breads with tasty and nutrient-rich toppings (tastes differ...hummus, cheese/soy cheese, mock meats, etc.), soups rich in veggies and beans rather than broth, stir fries with brown rice, tofu, and veggies, sloppy joes made with TVP or seitan, bean burritos, whatever. It's better for you, it shows concerned parties that it's not just an eating disorder in disguise, and it is way more satisfying.<br><br><br><br>
It will feel like you're missing some things. You are. But you're doing it as a choice because you've decided it is worth the cost. Focusing on what you're getting (people of good character make their actions suit their beliefs!) instead of what you're giving up is great for one's attitude.
 

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Your doctor really dropped the ball here. Most doctors aren't qualified to counsel patients about eating disorders or vegetarian nutrition. If you haven't already, get yourself to a dietitian. Your doctor should have referred you to one when you expressed interest in eating a balanced diet. That is what is important here, the fact that your thoughts are on nutritional adequacy, not that you're vegetarian.<br><br><br><br>
You need to show <a href="http://www.eatright.org/cps/rde/xchg/ada/hs.xsl/advocacy_933_ENU_HTML.htm" target="_blank">this</a> to your doctor. Unless he knows something that the nutrition authorities don't.
 

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I agree with a lot of what was said here. My doctor is not a nutritionist and really doesn't want me to be a vegan because of my anemia, but he said to me that I can be vegan as long as I'm not a dumb vegan [a vegan who ignores her health and does not fill in her gaps].<br><br><br><br>
Experiment. Get cookbooks or go to <a href="http://www.vegweb.com" target="_blank">VegWeb</a> and get recipes from there. You can find delicious recipes that include veggies without it being a boring old salad. I love, love, love going to sub shops and getting veggie subs on vegan bread. Lettuce, tomato, olives, onions, peppers, Italian dressing ... mmm ... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/lick.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lick:"><br><br><br><br>
To be honest, I'm a vegan who doesn't really like salads either. At least not plain ol' ones like the bagged kind or boring ones restaurants give you. Try constructing your own personal awesome salad. Try different kinds of lettuce [mix and match, have fun with it!], Bac-Os, peppers [red, green, yellow, or hot stuff like Pepperoncinis], chick peas [garbanzos], olives [black and/or green], tomato, onion, maybe different kinds of beans, a little fruit like diced apple or pear or banana or orange [or tangerines or mandarins], get creative with it! Experiment with different dressings. Try just one, or maybe mix some or even make your own. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Your food does not have to be boring just because it's vegetarian. Get bold with your food. Don't be afraid to try different things.<br><br><br><br>
You can also homemake tacos, burritos, fajitas, wraps, sandwiches ... yum! Don't settle for boring and don't eat something that you don't want to eat. Get creative, start to experiment, look up recipes that sound delicious to you. Make things that you love and help you balance your diet.
 

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First of all, don't listen to this doctor. He's not qualified to counsel you on this subject. Just to give you an idea, my mother is a doctor and nutrition was NOT even part of the curriculum at college for her.<br><br>
Apart from talking to a proper dietitian, I would recommend that you checked out these links:<br><br><br><br><a href="http://veganmenu.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://veganmenu.blogspot.com/</a><br><br><a href="http://veganyumyum.com/" target="_blank">http://veganyumyum.com/</a><br><br><a href="http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/" target="_blank">http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/</a><br><br><a href="http://albioncooks.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://albioncooks.blogspot.com/</a><br><br><a href="http://www.vanesscipes.com/" target="_blank">http://www.vanesscipes.com/</a><br><br><br><br>
Like others have said, there's a *lot* more to a veg*n diet than spaghetti and lettuce. I hope those websites will give you some ideas of things to incorporate into your diet and make it a lot healthier and more enjoyable too. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Edit: Added another great link. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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Try experimenting! I love going grocery shopping and buying stuff that I've never tried before, then taking it home and seeing what I make of it. Like, last week, I bought some huge mushrooms, stuffed them with some onions and tomatos, grilled them and slapped it on a wholemeal roll (pseudo-burger-bun).</div>
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So going to try that. Sounds lovely!<br><br><br><br><br><br>
Throw away your scales. Weight means NOTHING. I actually gained weight through exercising because of the muscle. But I became thinner & felt better. Which is a better feeling than any scales will give you!<br><br><br><br>
I'd find a new helpful doctor, and have a look through vegetarian recipes! There's so much nice food to make, and I love going shopping & experimenting. Things take time, don't stress yourself out *hugs*
 

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The question is this: Are you nutrient deficient or just underweight? If you're just underweight, the solution is easy: Just do something stupid. Eat an entire bag of chips, make cookie dough then don't bake it, get a jar of peanut butter and just spoon (unless you're allergic). Instant advantage: After you gain the weight, you won't keep eating unhealthily. After that, you won't want to.
 

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Being vegetarian is more than just eliminating meat and eating whatever is left from your former diet. It's about adding in new foods and creating a new vision of what a plate of food looks like. Vegetarian meals are less "protein goes here, carbs go here, veg goes here" than omni meals are.<br><br><br><br>
I don't like salads myself, and I've been vegetarian for 12 years. Look up some recipes on line or browse/buy some vegetarian cookbooks and get an idea of some different interesting meals that you might like to try. You're right that you can't live off of pasta, but a vegetarian diet really should not be as limiting as you're making it sound.
 

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The question is this: Are you nutrient deficient or just underweight? If you're just underweight, the solution is easy: Just do something stupid. Eat an entire bag of chips, make cookie dough then don't bake it, get a jar of peanut butter and just spoon (unless you're allergic). Instant advantage: After you gain the weight, you won't keep eating unhealthily. After that, you won't want to.</div>
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Not such a great idea. Junk food is junk food whether you are trying to gain, lose, or maintain weight. If you want to gain weight, eat more calories of <i>healthy</i> foods, and you will gain it in a healthful way.
 

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Being vegetarian is more than just eliminating meat and eating whatever is left from your former diet. It's about adding in new foods and creating a new vision of what a plate of food looks like. Vegetarian meals are less "protein goes here, carbs go here, veg goes here" than omni meals are.<br><br><br><br>
- Excellent post Rabid-Child<br><br><br><br>
I like to make a soup of either canned or raw veggies(whatever I have) and after it simmers for a while i blend it up to make it thicker. I eat that in a "stew- Chili" form all week with a nice crusty whole grain bread. Before you blend, you can add a protein or fiber supplement depending on your needs.
 

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Well I took all of your advice, Thanks so much for the replies they helped a lot<br><br>
So I tried the taco thing, I bought a book on indian foods which are really really really good and I like them them a lot, it doesn't seem like im forcing myself anymore ^^ and I gained some which scared me at first but Im dealing with it.<br><br>
lol my family is still being crazy. Im jewish so they keep trying to convince me to eat meat by saying kosher animals are killed non-painlessly and only kosher foods are pure and not from a suffering animal and blood is forbidden by the Torah and what not. IF its so strict kosher might as well be a vegetarian rule , but hey..Its hard to argue with them because that is what kosher is all about , but still the point is they're being killed right?<br><br>
ah, well thanks everyone, Im so glad im part of this community its full of such great smart people with wonderful advice ^_^
 

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Not such a great idea. Junk food is junk food whether you are trying to gain, lose, or maintain weight. If you want to gain weight, eat more calories of <i>healthy</i> foods, and you will gain it in a healthful way.</div>
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That's why I never said <i>keep</i> doing it. Long term advice is what I would've given if I'd... read the rest of the... post...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/worried.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":worried:"><br><br><br><br>
Anyways, tofu can be your best friend. And it doesn't have to suck. Chopped thinly and cooked in a pan with water, veggie stock, onions and curry powder or soy sauce. Just let it simmer until the water has all but evaporated.
 

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That's why I never said <i>keep</i> doing it. Long term advice is what I would've given if I'd... read the rest of the... post...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/worried.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":worried:"><br></div>
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I understand you weren't recommending it for the long term. I disagree that it is a good idea even for the short term.
 
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