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I've been buying a type of vegan margarine (included the words "milk free" on the container) and now they've changed it..... it says less fat, but no more "milk free".<br><br>
I know that doesn't mean it isn't anymore (although the appearance of lactic acid in the ingredients (which I know isn't necessarily animal-derived) has me suspicious).... but who knows.<br><br>
Anyway, at least it has made go back to the vegan margarine that in the end is the better choice.... their package now states "plant sources", and a while ago I had contacted them to check some things and found it all vegan (I should have stuck with them all along, since they were so helpful).<br><br><br><br>
This happened to another thing I used to buy..... they "improved" the recipe (big letters on the box said so), so I checked and found they now had beef fat in it (many many years ago).<br><br>
But at the same time it can work the other way..... one product that had honey in it suddenly didn't have honey in it (so they could then display "vegan" on the box); and another vegetarian (eggs and/or dairy ingredients) product has recently (maybe past couple of years) become vegan.
 

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Oops. I didn't mean to exclude lacto-ovo vegetarians in any way with my use of "non-vegan".... I should have used "non-veg*n". Sorry.
 

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I was getting these candy melts ( chocolates used for making candy molds ) that were vegan. Now they include whey. If their packaging hadn't changed slightly, I might not have noticed this new addition. It's always a good idea to check and re-check labels.
 

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Okay.. a few of the Chips Ahoy flavors were vegan for a while back there. Then they changed um, distributors? Cookie plants? Well they changed who made them, and the new guys include milk in the chips. :p
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Kurmudgeon</i><br><br><b>Oops. I didn't mean to exclude lacto-ovo vegetarians in any way with my use of "non-vegan".... I should have used "non-veg*n". Sorry.</b></div>
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But Kurm, you're talking about vegan barriers (milk and such), so it seems accurate. It's very nice of you to say, though. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
I've actually noticed the same thing -- there were vegan chocolate chips out here (I forget the brand) that I bought because, even though I'm not vegan, when presented with a simple choice like that, I'll go with the vegan item (in practice for when I *do* become vegan, which may or may not happen during this decade) & the last time I decided to make cookies I bought some & it had added that it "may contain trace amounts of milk protein." Rather than drive to a hfs, I bought them. But I was annoyed.<br><br><br><br>
And I hate it when packaged vegetarian items have eggs in them for binding and such... argh. I do try my very best not to eat eggs, and they seem to show up everywhere! I *think* I've successfully cut them out of my diet entirely...<br><br><br><br>
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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Mskedi</i><br><br><b>I've actually noticed the same thing -- there were vegan chocolate chips out here (I forget the brand) that I bought because, even though I'm not vegan, when presented with a simple choice like that, I'll go with the vegan item (in practice for when I *do* become vegan, which may or may not happen during this decade) & the last time I decided to make cookies I bought some & it had added that it "may contain trace amounts of milk protein." Rather than drive to a hfs, I bought them. But I was annoyed. Mskedi</b></div>
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Actually, this might just mean that the chocolate chips had been processed on the same machinery as dairy products, and might probably have picked up some residual dairy matter. To the best of my knowledge, it doesn't mean that the manufacturers have actually added milk protein to the chips. They put a warning on the package to caution those who might be severely allergic to even trace amounts of milk protein.
 

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That's nice to know. Thanks. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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The linda mccartney products - They've come under a lot of fire from UK vegans. They're vegetarian, but apparently, a lot of them are now no longer vegan. I'm not vegan so it doesn't affect me, but to be quite honest, if they were vegan, it would be a lot better.
 

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My favorite candy turned un-veg*n a few months ago. *sob* It used to have agar-agar, now it has gelatin. I want to cry my eyes out <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> I asked them about it, they said it's because the gelatin keeps it softer for a longer time. And I liked them when they turned a bit hard! Hmm.. anyway, must be the saddest thing that ever happened to me <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:">
 

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Never mind pyrsk. I feel for you. I've got the opposite problem. Everything that I used to love that rots my teeth is going vegetarian, and I'm eating it now thta it no longer has any offending ingredients, and turning my teeth into mush.<br><br><br><br>
To be honest though, I've never experienced any product changing from being vegetarian to non-vegetarian. I guess I'm lucky.<br><br><br><br>
And pyrsk, tell them that you, and all the other vegetarian customers couldn't give a flying fig about the softness. All you care about is that it's not got gelatin in. That should be ample reason for them to go back to agar-agar. That is if there are a lot of vegetarians in Finland.
 

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It's actually not even a Finnish product, I think it's German? The brand is Katjes. Anyway, they said there's no chance of going back to using agar-agar. I've found new vegan candy so I guess I'll live. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
And I see your point too. I wish all chocolates/candies/ice creams etc. were un-vegan! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:"> My waistline would like that too <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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SallyK, <a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?threadid=5046&highlight=whats+veg%2An" target="_blank">see here.</a>
 

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ARGH!!<br><br>
I can't relate to products changing, but- I hate it when things I think are vegan aren't, causing vegan screw ups! The other day I ate some bread that I found out had whey in it- it never used to, I swear!- and then I ate a few pretzels and checked the back of the bag and they had buttermilk. I was highly upset; but I learned the hard way that you have to check labels always.<br><br>
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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by addie7</i><br><br><b>wondering what brands of margarine are definately vegan in australia??</b></div>
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Nutelex (I've probably spelt that wrong). The ingredients are plant based (I checked with the manufacturer, who said the supplier guaranteed it).
 

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soy cream to ice cream. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/mad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":mad:">
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Kurmudgeon</i><br><br><b>Nutelex (</b></div>
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Thankx very much, glad to say that's the marg I'm using already <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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THere is something worse than going from veg*n to non - having it happen when the item is listed as 100% vegetarian.<br><br><br><br>
Ex: Soy "Hot dogs" from an annoying company<br><br><br><br>
First look at ingred. list (vegan):<br><br>
all plant based spices, soy (no eggs/dairy/honey). 0% Cholesterol<br><br><br><br>
Next look (months later - vegetarian):<br><br>
all plant based spices, soy, dairy. trace amounts of Cholesterol<br><br><br><br>
Last look (months later - about a year from the first time) :<br><br>
plant based spices, soy, dairy, eggs, bacon herbed (bacon wrapped around the food). Cholesterol: 10-15%<br><br><br><br>
All three times having 100% vegetarian on it (could've swore it was vegan at first though...) The company did say it was a typing error and it really didn't have bacon in it and none of their products did. But still makes me too suspecious to ever buy.
 
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