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hhhmmmm....tell me how you really feel...<br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block"><b>Paris (CNN)</b> -- Christian Dior has started proceedings to fire designer John Galliano after he was filmed making anti-Semitic comments in a Paris restaurant, the fashion giant said Tuesday.<br>
The company condemned his "deeply offensive statements and conduct" in a statement announcing the plan to fire him.<br>
The statement came hours after Oscar-winning actress Natalie Portman condemned Galliano's praise of Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler.<br>
"I love Hitler," Galliano said in a video obtained by Britain's Sun newspaper. "Your mother, your forefathers would be f---ing gassed and f---ing dead."</div>
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Well, I too love Hitler.<br><br><br>
Because he is dead.
 

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Not as if Dior doesn't have a lot to address itself.
 

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I'm not 100% sure here, but if he just said these things in a resturaunt that had nothing to do with dior... I think it's wrong for him to be fired for them. His personal oppinions that he expresses outside his job have nothing to do with his job, and it's incredibly unfair to fire him for them.<br><br>
If he said these things at a work-related meal, I would feel differently, as it would be an innapropriate way to conduct yourself in a work environment as it's offensive and predujuice.
 

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Identity has a point.<br><br>
I think the real issue here is media accessibility. If people have jobs where they have to uphold a certain attitude or representation, then they are stuck behaving in a way they might not want to 100% that they aren't in the privacy of their own home. But with great power comes great responsibility.<br><br>
Dior chose to fire him, and he chose to say asinine/prejudice comments. And life goes on.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Envy</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2826419"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Well, I too love Hitler.<br><br><br>
Because he is dead.</div>
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<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Identity_thief</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2826770"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I'm not 100% sure here, but if he just said these things in a resturaunt that had nothing to do with dior... I think it's wrong for him to be fired for them. His personal oppinions that he expresses outside his job have nothing to do with his job, and it's incredibly unfair to fire him for them.<br><br>
If he said these things at a work-related meal, I would feel differently, as it would be an innapropriate way to conduct yourself in a work environment as it's offensive and predujuice.</div>
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I think they're firing him because he is going to court for the comments, not for the comments in particular. He said them to a Jewish woman, so he can get six months in jail in France... I think Dior is trying to distance itself from 'went to jail for anti-Semetic crimes.'
 

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if you are such a high profile person, in a high profile job, working for a high profile company it's in your best interest to watch your mouth. Whether you are at work or not.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Kappa</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2826827"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I think they're firing him because he is going to court for the comments, not for the comments in particular. He said them to a Jewish woman, so he can get six months in jail in France... I think Dior is trying to distance itself from 'went to jail for anti-Semetic crimes.'</div>
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I read previously that the people in the video were not Jewish, but what he said is apparently illegal in France no matter who it's addressed to.
 

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<b>Max Bialystock:</b> That's exactly why we want to produce this play. To show the world the true Hitler, the Hitler you loved, the Hitler you knew, the Hitler with a song in his heart.<br><br>
I love The Producers. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>smob</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2826845"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I read previously that the people in the video were not Jewish, but what he said is apparently illegal in France no matter who it's addressed to.</div>
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I swear that a Jewish woman came forward after the first person did? Maybe not. But let's not forget the assault charges on top of all this.<br><br>
In real life, much poorer people than Galliano are persecuted at work or outright fired for much less than this, especially in a culture where we have Facebook, etc. I have no pity for Galliano because of his actions. I do, however, pity people who receive unfair treatment/don't get hired because their Facebook pages don't conform the what the company wants.
 

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About Facebook: Maybe I'm missing something, but aren't there privacy settings you can change....<br><br>
I have my security set up so only friends can view my page and information. No one else.<br><br>
and I'm very picky about my friend list.<br><br>
People who let anyone view all of there info are just asking for trouble.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Beancounter</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2826925"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
About Facebook: Maybe I'm missing something, but aren't there privacy settings you can change....<br><br>
I have my security set up so only friends can view my page and information. No one else.<br><br>
and I'm very picky about my friend list.<br><br>
People who let anyone view all of there info are just asking for trouble.</div>
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While this should be true, the majority of users aren't as tech-savvy as they should be, something anyone who has ever worked with computers well knows! In a perfect world, everyone would do the same as yourself, but the fact is most don't know how, or even that they can sometimes!
 

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There are two different incidents being talked about. The video where he's blabbering about loving Hitler was filmed a year ago, and it's been pointed out to support the present incident, where he physically assaulted a Jewish woman while insulting her ugly Jewish face and saying other anti-semitic things.<br><br>
He probably had such an over-inflated sense of his own self importance he felt like he was untouchable. Obviously he is not aware of Hitler's views on homosexuals.
 

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<div class="quote-block">He probably had such an over-inflated sense of his own self importance he felt like he was untouchable. Obviously he is not aware of Hitler's views on homosexuals.</div>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>SomebodyElse</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2827045"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
There are two different incidents being talked about. The video where he's blabbering about loving Hitler was filmed a year ago, and it's been pointed out to support the present incident, where he physically assaulted a Jewish woman while insulting her ugly Jewish face and saying other anti-semitic things.<br><br>
He probably had such an over-inflated sense of his own self importance he felt like he was untouchable. Obviously he is not aware of Hitler's views on homosexuals.</div>
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Ah, I only knew about the one video...the non-insulting-a-Jewish-woman one. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Identity_thief</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2826770"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I'm not 100% sure here, but if he just said these things in a resturaunt that had nothing to do with dior... I think it's wrong for him to be fired for them. His personal oppinions that he expresses outside his job have nothing to do with his job, and it's incredibly unfair to fire him for them.<br><br>
If he said these things at a work-related meal, I would feel differently, as it would be an innapropriate way to conduct yourself in a work environment as it's offensive and predujuice.</div>
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When I worked for a gym we represented the company inside, and outside the work place and this is a very common practice, most so in higher end businesses. When he makes comments like that, it comes right back to dior that he said it. I'm glad he got fired, and think it was 100% correct move.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>River</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2827077"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
When I worked for a gym we represented the company inside, and outside the work place and this is a very common practice, most so in higher end businesses. When he makes comments like that, it comes right back to dior that he said it. I'm glad he got fired, and think it was 100% correct move.</div>
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Yup, especially if you're mid management or higher, or in any way the face of a company - everything you do and say reflects on your employer.
 

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The thread title could also be read as: "Dior moves to fire Galliano, after Hitler makes a comment".
 
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