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I'm in the transition of trying to be more vegan. I have some concerns about DHA sources. I know there's a supplement from Barlean's but it's nearly $40 for 454g. Does anyone know of anything cheaper?<br><br>
Also, other than b12 and iron (etc), anything else you'd advise for a newly transitioning female vegan?
 

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I'm in the transition of trying to be more vegan. I have some concerns about DHA sources. I know there's a supplement from Barlean's but it's nearly $40 for 454g. Does anyone know of anything cheaper?<br><br>
Also, other than b12 and iron (etc), anything else you'd advise for a newly transitioning female vegan?</div>
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Omega 3 Zen is under $30 a bottle. If you take the recommended dose of 1 capsule per day, it will last you about a month. A dollar a day. A cold soda from a machine will cost you $1.25.<br><br>
Everything that you need to do, to be a healthy vegan can be fit onto one page and used as a checklist<br><a href="http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/dailyrecs" target="_blank">Daily Recommendations For Vegans</a>
 

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What about carnosine, beta-alanine and all those other non-protein amino acids? I know so many failed vegans, I don't want to get sick because of some obscure deficiency. I already know about the stuff you linked - and so did those ex-vegans I know, so I'm wondering if there's something else I should be aware of.
 

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You can try <span style="text-decoration:underline;"><b><a href="http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=vegan+dha&cp=8&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=6079174115471531576&sa=X&ei=PNSITe60FtLC4gbqk-3lDg&sqi=2&ved=0CEIQ8gIwBA#" target="_blank">THIS</a></b></span> from Spectrum. It's Vegan.
 

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It's not a bad idea for vegans to occasionally go on bouts of supplementing with flax and other Omega 3 oils. Certain soy and almond milks are fortified with it, for good measure. <a href="http://veganhealth.org/articles/omega3" target="_blank">Jack Norris recommends</a> purchasing a bottle every few months and taking the recommended dose of the supplement till it's out, but he doesn't go so far as to recommend all vegans take it daily all year round. Some vegans report feeling <i>worse</i> when they take it for whatever reason.
 

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Also, other than b12 and iron (etc), anything else you'd advise for a newly transitioning female vegan?</div>
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Keep an eye on your Vit D level. It's a very important vitamin. You might need to supplement.<br><br>
Interestingly, a bunch of my vegan and vegetarian friends got tested recently for Vit D and shockingly, only two of us out of a group of sixteen had a sufficient level. The rest all showed a moderate to severe deficiency with few symptoms. And we live in one of the sunniest places on earth. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/undecided.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":-/"> It goes to show that even if you think you're getting enough from sunlight or food sources (<--- if you're veggie), you could be wrong.
 

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It's not a bad idea for vegans to occasionally go on bouts of supplementing with flax and other Omega 3 oils. Certain soy and almond milks are fortified with it, for good measure. <a href="http://veganhealth.org/articles/omega3" target="_blank">Jack Norris recommends</a> purchasing a bottle every few months and taking the recommended dose of the supplement till it's out, but he doesn't go so far as to recommend all vegans take it daily all year round. Some vegans report feeling <i>worse</i> when they take it for whatever reason.</div>
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I fall into the occasionally faithful Vegan "supplementor" meaning that I get pretty regimented about taking them, but then slack off, taking them rarely or not at all, then I get on a kick again. Overall, I have a really good diet with a lot of variety and I think about what I'm buying and how I'm combining things and preparing them to get the most out of them. I've always felt great as a Vegan and I work out like a maniac 4 or 5 days a week.
 

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Keep an eye on your Vit D level. It's a very important vitamin. You might need to supplement.<br><br>
Interestingly, a bunch of my vegan and vegetarian friends got tested recently for Vit D and shockingly, only two of us out of a group of sixteen had a sufficient level. The rest all showed a moderate to severe deficiency with few symptoms. And we live in one of the sunniest places on earth. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/undecided.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":-/"> It goes to show that even if you think you're getting enough from sunlight or food sources (<--- if you're veggie), you could be wrong.</div>
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Oh, that's a good idea, getting tested - I take a general supplement but it would still be a good idea to see if I need to supplement more.
 

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<a href="http://veganhealth.org/articles/bones" target="_blank">Jack Norris</a> and <a href="http://www.theveganrd.com/2010/12/new-vitamin-d-and-calcium-rdas-what-they-mean-for-vegans.html" target="_blank">Ginny Messina</a> caution against the myth that everyone can get sufficient vitamin D from sun alone. Most vegans should err on the side of caution.
 

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If you have to take supplements isn't this proof that your diet is inadequate and flawed?</div>
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No.
 

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<p>What I do:</p>
<p>Omega 3 - a few walnuts on my oatmeal, ground flax seeds used in baking</p>
<p>Iron - beans</p>
<p>B12 - supplement or fortified soymilk</p>
<p>Vitamin D - sunshine or fortified soymilk</p>
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<p>Some other thoughts about what vegans might want to do:</p>
<p>Omega 3 - <a href="http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/omega3" target="_blank">http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/omega3</a></p>
<p>Iron - <a href="http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/iron" target="_blank">http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/iron</a></p>
<p>B12 - <a href="http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/vitaminb12" target="_blank">http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/vitaminb12</a></p>
<p>Vitamin D - <a href="http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/bones" target="_blank">http://www.veganhealth.org/articles/bones</a></p>
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<p>If you have to take supplements isn't this proof that your diet is inadequate and flawed?</p>
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<p>No. </p>
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<p>List of reasons someone may want/need to take supplements yet have a fantastic diet:</p>
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<p>- They have a problem with absorption. Some genetic conditions cause this. Also, previous damage or surgery might cause this. (Sickle Cell, cancer, ulcers, Crohn's disease, gastric bypass, alcoholism, celiac, etc can all cause someone to have troubles with absorption. They can eat a perfect diet but their bodies simply may not absorb the nutrients they need.) </p>
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<p>- They live in a climate/ live a lifestyle where they can't get vitamin D from the sun on a regular basis. (Example, a person with dark skin who lives in the north and doesn't work outdoors is probably not going to get enough vitamin D from the sun.)</p>
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<p>- They choose a compassionate diet that's healthy but doesn't consistently supply B12 because of current farming and hygiene standards. (B12 is made by a bacteria in the guts of many animals - including humans - and is often in soil. But since we are not cavemen anymore and we wash our food because now there's a lot of dangerous bacteria in soil, we can't obtain B12 by eating dirt. Don't try it! Also, some have speculated that plants might be able to have B12 absorbed from the soil but that current farming methods have eliminated that possibility. Future science may overcome this.)</p>
 

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<p>As an update, it's been about 2 years and 8 months as a vegan (+17 years as a vegetarian) and I'm perfectly healthy. I have amazing energy, I'm rarely sick, I'm involved in a pretty intense strength-based physical activity, and I have no cognitive problems. I take a general multivitamin and eat a lot of nuts, seeds, and beans. I don't specifically supplement DHA or any obscure amino acids.</p>
 

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<p>Whooooooa, this dead post got resurrected.</p>
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<p>As an update, it's been about 2 years and 8 months as a vegan (+17 years as a vegetarian) and I'm perfectly healthy. I have amazing energy, I'm rarely sick, I'm involved in a pretty intense strength-based physical activity, and I have no cognitive problems. I take a general multivitamin and eat a lot of nuts, seeds, and beans. I don't specifically supplement DHA or any obscure amino acids.</p>
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<p>Hi luxdancer. Amazing how long dead threads keep coming back, I bet you never expected that. My congratulations on your good health and long may it continue. <img alt=":up:" src="http://files.veggieboards.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style=""></p>
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<p>Leedsveg</p>
 

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<p>Hi luxdancer. Amazing how long dead threads keep coming back, I bet you never expected that. My congratulations on your good health and long may it continue. <img alt=":up:" src="http://files.veggieboards.com/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style=""></p>
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<p>Thanks Leeds!</p>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Josh James xVx</strong> <a href="/t/123260/dha-and-other-weird-things#post_2845491"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif"></a><br><br><a class="bbcode_url" href="http://veganhealth.org/articles/bones" target="_blank">Jack Norris</a> and <a class="bbcode_url" href="http://www.theveganrd.com/2010/12/new-vitamin-d-and-calcium-rdas-what-they-mean-for-vegans.html" target="_blank">Ginny Messina</a> caution against the myth that everyone can get sufficient vitamin D from sun alone. Most vegans should err on the side of caution.</div>
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Actually, regarding vitamin D, my doctor told me she gets everybody tested, omnivores included, and the number of people who have a deficiency is staggering. So vegan or not, check your vitamin D.
 

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Oh boy, hadn't noticed how old this post was...
 

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<p>Whooooooa, this dead post got resurrected.</p>
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<p>As an update, it's been about 2 years and 8 months as a vegan (+17 years as a vegetarian) and I'm perfectly healthy. I have amazing energy, I'm rarely sick, I'm involved in a pretty intense strength-based physical activity, and I have no cognitive problems. I take a general multivitamin and eat a lot of nuts, seeds, and beans. I don't specifically supplement DHA or any obscure amino acids.</p>
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<p>We've been vegan for about the same length of time (I am assuming you went vegan in February 2011?).   Good to hear that you are still amazingly healthy!</p>
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<p>I have heard this argument from omnivores in the past.  The irony is that <em>most</em> vitamin and other supplements sold on the market are not vegan or even vegetarian due to all of the inactive ingredients in them such as gelatin and other animal derivatives.  A lot of omnivores take vitamin D because of lack of sunlight at certain times of the year in a northern hemisphere or lifestyle (not getting outside enough) etc.  My omnivore husband has to take B12 due to absorption problems and  a type of anemia he has.  Also, my hemoglobin numbers are far healthier than his are, as are my D levels in the summer without supplementing.</p>
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<p>I also consider a diet that requires forcibly impregnating animals, drinking the milk of another species, and breeding and keeping animals for food which requires a lot of land and resources flawed.</p>
 

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<p>As an update, it's been about 2 years and 8 months as a vegan (+17 years as a vegetarian) and I'm perfectly healthy. I have amazing energy, I'm rarely sick, I'm involved in a pretty intense strength-based physical activity, and I have no cognitive problems. I take a general multivitamin and eat a lot of nuts, seeds, and beans. I don't specifically supplement DHA or any obscure amino acids.</p>
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<p>I'm hoping that you also eventually discovered that those who wrongly state that DHA, carnosine, or carnitine are <strong>essential nutrients</strong> can almost always be linked to the meat industry or meat-centric diet advocacy.</p>
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