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In case those of you who wanted to debate omnis missed the announcement in the Community Assistance forum - there's a thread on ILoveTalk.com where VB people are debating duck hunters. Here's your chance - there are more of them active in the thread than there are of us.
 

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Gah...I was the one calling for this and I'm too tired to be into this today. I'll be off work for a week soon though... if the section is still active then it's clobberin' time.
 

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I've been on there since yesterday, I got tired of waiting for someone to come and start the debate so I posted my opinions on hunting and got called a "bat$hit crazy Meat is murder veg*n" by them over on their own forum. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> So far the debate has been fun, and actually pretty educational. It hasn't gotten too bad, both sides seem respectful most of the time and are often genuinely curious about veg*n lifestyles, morals, opinions, and views.
 

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I'm finally in, but I won't be able to post much until I'm at work later and things get slow <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br>
Looks fun so far! They are using religious arguments and comparing themselves to serial killers, love it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:">
 

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WTN seems crazy, i think he is a serial killer since he's kind of saying serial killers are only bad in other peoples minds and it's okay for them to kill people because it's okay in their mind, just like it's okay in the hunters mind, he accidentally lumped himself in with a serial killer, oops.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>AlixJ18</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2925935"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
WTN seems crazy, i think he is a serial killer since he's kind of saying serial killers are only bad in other peoples minds and it's okay for them to kill people because it's okay in their mind, just like it's okay in the hunters mind, he accidentally lumped himself in with a serial killer, oops.</div>
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REALLY? Ok, now I have to go over there<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>sequoia</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2925960"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
REALLY? Ok, now I have to go over there<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"></div>
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Lol yes and of course because we called them the "bad people" he refuses to answer me if he thinks serial killers and child molesters are okay people, he skirts around it and says he doesn't have to say anything because blah blah blah, which to me is saying he doesn't think serial killers and child molesters/rapists are bad.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Josh James xVx</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2925835"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I'll be off work for a week soon though... if the section is still active then it's clobberin' time.</div>
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I predict in a week it will be very slow. Not just because they'll get tired, but some of the Vegan Women and Hunter men will be busy going on dates by then.
 

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WTN is just another religious fundamentalist trying to disguise his religiously based ideas as some kind of super logic. Same old.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>mlp</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2926009"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
WTN is just another religious fundamentalist trying to disguise his religiously based ideas as some kind of super logic. Same old.</div>
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I <i>loved</i> the "No, humans are humans created in God's image." You just can't argue with someone like that. I'm not even going to try.
 

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I'd prefer to debate vicariously through you all. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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WTN is just another religious fundamentalist trying to disguise his religiously based ideas as some kind of super logic. Same old.</div>
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Seriously, until now i guess i didn't realize that they had the same argument and excuse pattern in every other area of their life aside from religion.
 

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Hunters always have the same arguments. I've dealt with them many times in the past. They all claim to be doing it because they just looooove nature. The only reason they donate so much money to conserve wildlife and wildlife habitats is so that they can continue to kill things. That and guilty consciences. I have honestly never heard a good argument for the hunting that they do.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>AlixJ18</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2925910"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Can i call WTN an idiot on here since i can't do it over there? lol</div>
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Lol! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:"><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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I'm finally in, but I won't be able to post much until I'm at work later and things get slow <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br>
Looks fun so far! They are using religious arguments and <b>comparing themselves to serial killers</b>, love it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:"></div>
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I know,they're comparing themselves for us already!<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>AlixJ18</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2925935"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
WTN seems crazy, i think he is a serial killer since he's kind of saying serial killers are only bad in other peoples minds and it's okay for them to kill people because it's okay in their mind, just like it's okay in the hunters mind, he accidentally lumped himself in with a serial killer, oops.</div>
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They did say he's a lawyer at a big firm, maybe he defends serial killers <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":huh:"> I mean, it's possible, right?<br><br>
Oh and I would consider all of them serial killers, they kill several lives at a time. A duck life is still a life.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>sequoia</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2926022"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Hunters always have the same arguments. I've dealt with them many times in the past. They all claim to be doing it because they just looooove nature. The only reason they donate so much money to conserve wildlife and wildlife habitats is so that they can continue to kill things. That and <b>guilty consciences</b>. I have honestly never heard a good argument for the hunting that they do.</div>
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Lol, it really shows in their posts, one of them was actually asking me earlier if it's okay to take his dog with him hunting. Not in a debate way, like in an actually curious way and he explained all the things he does for his dog and everything. Are you that guilty and insecure about your hunting that you're asking for advice regarding it from a 15-year-old vegan? I guess he thought if he cares about his dog, one animal in the world, then it justifies him hunting so many other animals.
 

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Lol! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/laugh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":lol:"><br>
They did say he's a lawyer at a big firm, maybe he defends serial killers <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":huh:"> I mean, it's possible, right?</div>
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No, he's headed toward a Biblical thing.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Lol, it really shows in their posts, one of them was actually asking me earlier if it's okay to take his dog with him hunting. Not in a debate way, like in an actually curious way and he explained all the things he does for his dog and everything. Are you that guilty and insecure about your hunting that you're asking for advice regarding it from a 15-year-old vegan? I guess he thought if he cares about his dog, one animal in the world, then it justifies him hunting so many other animals.</div>
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I don't think he was asking for your advice - he was just curious about your stance. I think that, for many of them, we're like creatures from another planet.<br><br>
I think where their insecurity about their ethical position shows is in their emphasis that they kill for the noble purpose of *managing* populations to avoid starvation.
 

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I think where their insecurity about their ethical position shows is in their emphasis that they kill for the noble purpose of *managing* populations to avoid starvation.</div>
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Exactly. Like killing animals is some higher calling. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:">
 

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I predict in a week it will be very slow. Not just because they'll get tired, but some of the Vegan Women and Hunter men will be busy going on dates by then.</div>
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They wish! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/spew.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":spew:">
 
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