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I think I may have depression, but I've heard bad things about the drugs to deal with it...----sometimes- I think about suicide, though I know its out of the question, feel really down, too low energy to run, cry in fits, and am just all around mopey. Im fine when Im with my friends- but I cant always be!<br><br><br><br>
it seems like I need to get myself busy otherwise I get sad about how little I did, then I think its meaningless, then next thing you know, I feel meaningless...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/blush.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":eek:"><br><br><br><br>
Anyone have advice?? Dietary changes, feh "leafy green vegetables", more yoga, valerian...I dunno....<br><br><br><br>
Thanks y'all! your great!
 

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You are about the same age as my daughter (T A-V). I'm not trying to be a MOMMY, but you teenagers are going through a whole heck of a lot of changes right now (physically & emotionally) - so some of the things you mention are kind of "normal".<br><br><br><br>
Sounds cliche - but eating well and especially getting regular exercise (playstation2 doesn't count) will really help.<br><br><br><br>
If you have access to counseling, this is also very helpful. You'd be suprised at how talking with someone qualified to listen can help you get to the bottom of some problems.
 

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Try to get all the support you can get.<br><br>
Have a schedule.<br><br>
Keep a diary of nice things/thoughts/pictures.<br><br>
Regular exercises, especially outdoors with sunshine.<br><br>
Counseling.
 

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I still do, because I´ve seen people with whom it worked!
 

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Exercise does help. It is very important to try to be social. When people get depressed it is easy to become hermit like, the opposite of what you need.<br><br><br><br>
I recommend a copy of <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=9325&tag=veggieboards.com-20&location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2Fexec%2Fobidos%2Ftg%2Fdetail%2F-%2F0380810336%2Fqid%3D1058978298%2Fsr%3D8-1%2Fref%3Dsr_8_1%2F002-9829446-4849657%3Fv%3Dglance%26s%3Dbooks%26n%3D507846" target="_blank">"Feeling Good"</a> by David Burns Classic book, great book. It teaches you skills on identifying and changing harmful thought patterns.<br><br><br><br>
Two more resources to check out are<br><br><a href="http://www.healthyplace.com/" target="_blank">http://www.healthyplace.com/</a> lots of info for those with depression and those who know people with depression. Also has forums, book recommendations, etc.<br><br><a href="http:" target="_blank">www.depressionforums.com-</a> very active forum with very knowledgable members. Mostly deals with drugs for depression if you want to learn how different ones effect people or ask questions. Also have general threads and book recommendations, pick me up tips. etc.<br><br><br><br>
I wish the best for you, do not hesitate to ask me or the board for support when you need it.
 

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VegAnaconda, you just may not have been using the right counselor(s). I went to a counselor when I was about 10 because I had an irrational fear of riding the bus (don't ask), and the counselor picked up on the fact that my mother was extrememly depressed at MY appointments. She considered suicide everyday at that point, but he started talking to her and now she has a very good functioning life, she's even off of her Wellbutrin. This is a great guy, the counselor--he's really earthy, spiritual, and he's a Buddhist that rides a motorcycle. He's just a really cool dude and he's easy to talk to but so smart. My mom started recommending him to a lot of people, who have also been helped GREATLY by him, even people who tried so many other counselors before. Maybe you've just been looking for help in a counselor that's wrong for you--I don't think I could ever be helped by any of the counselors at my school, for example, because they're those eternally perky yet personality-less people who manage to fit the Catholic God into every sentence, which just doesn't work for me since I can't identify with the Catholic faith. So basically what I'm saying is maybe you just need to look around. Counseling works wonders, if you're talking to the right person.<br><br><br><br>
Oh and shadow panther, what you described is EXACTLY how I feel sometimes. I don't know if I actually have depression or it's just a slump that comes on, but I know I *am* at high risk for depression...my maternal grandparents, my mother all have/had it. Do you know if anyone in your family has depression?<br><br><br><br>
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Um..I dont know if anyone in my family has depression too. well, maybe it is just normal, but gosh darnit, its annoying..I think one of my grandmas was diabetic and alchoholic but that doesnt have much to do with this.<br><br><br><br>
heh, I've been running off and on (1 mile a day) but usually past dusk a bit. oops.
 

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St. Johns Wort is supposed to help. You have to keep taking it for a few weeks for it to take effect, though. People in Michigan take it all the time cause the cloudy weather and they say it helps. Just don't give up on it after a few days thinking it's not working--stick with it for at least a month.
 

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I totally agree that counceling can help as long as you get the right councelor for you. Finding someone you click with is very important. I didn't realize this when I was going to my former councelor until I found somebody different that really seemed to understand my situation better. I think everyone, depressed or not, could benefit from some counceling every now and then <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Have you tried EFA's? I have started eating flax seeds (I chew on them raw, but some peple prefer them ground or baked in things) and I found I have way less of those really down days.
 

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Jwnyc: "St. Johns Wort is supposed to help." Yes it does, but in a dosage that is effective against depression it´s like a prescription medicine, it might have side-effects, some of which you cannot notice as elevation of liver enzymes.<br><br>
VegAnna: that´s interesting, I´ll check this out, because I´m also very fond of flax seeds and omega-3; you cannot stop stressing how inportant they are.
 

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I just put the following down in the thread "antidepressants":<br><br><br><br>
There are a couple of studies looking at omega-3 fatty acids and depression. Try the following links:<br><br><a href="http://www.omega-3.ch/Dosierung/Depression.htm" target="_blank">www.omega-3.ch/Dosierung/Depression.htm</a><br><br><a href="http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/living/HealthyWoman/omega3_depression020916.html" target="_blank">http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/l...ion020916.html</a><br><br><a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=10232294&dopt=Abstract" target="_blank">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...&dopt=Abstract</a><br><br><br><br>
As well as we look for a reliable source of vit. B12, we should also look for reliable sources of omega-3s.
 

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yeah, I've heard about flax doing wonderful things. I think some waffles I like have them, got some recently and the hemp plus granola has added efa's. ..<br><br><br><br>
---Ill be gone for a week, leaving on sunday back lata
 

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Walking is a great help for depression. Find a good place like a park or by the water or something. Tune into yourself and tune out everything else. You'll find inner peace.
 

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Everyone seems to have given good advice here.<br><br><br><br>
Eat well - lots of greens, take your vitamins, etc.<br><br><br><br>
Exercise - walk, run, yoga, play on jungle jims, etc<br><br><br><br>
Get involved!!!! Don't sit around and fret. Do something. Join a church group, a youth group, a baking club, a cooking club, a walker's group; volunteer at a hospital, senior's home, day care, homeless shelter, bake cookies and give them away...anything. It is easier to see your importance when you are openly doing something to help others.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Lothar M Kirsch</i><br><br><b>Jwnyc: "St. Johns Wort is supposed to help." Yes it does, but in a dosage that is effective against depression it´s like a prescription medicine, it might have side-effects, some of which you cannot notice as elevation of liver enzymes.<br><br>
VegAnna: that´s interesting, I´ll check this out, because I´m also very fond of flax seeds and omega-3; you cannot stop stressing how inportant they are.</b></div>
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Yes, for example, it can make birth control, HIV, and other medications not work as well. I experienced spotting while taking it.<br><br><br><br>
If a substance, either plant derived or man made is strong enough to cause a significant physiological change, it is a drug and should be examined as such before using.
 

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Thalia,<br><br><br><br>
I agree with your thoughts on St. John's Wort.<br><br><br><br>
There is a new study out (from Tufts University) that has found those with mild to moderate depression respond as well, and sometimes better, to extra folate in their diets/supplements then through medication. It also found that many of those suffering from depression had low levels of folate in their bloodstreams and that daily requirements of folate were not being met.<br><br><br><br>
It suggests getting taking a multi-vitamin for women (as it has higher folate) and also eating high-folate foods.<br><br><br><br>
It's worth a try.
 

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Just an added note on the St. John's Wort...<br><br>
It can also trigger anxiety and severe mood swings in people with certain types of depression. It really depends on the individual, how it effects them right away.
 
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