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I haven't been on in a while, I've been dealing with a lot of really difficult stuff in my life lately, but I'm turning to you guys because I really need help!

So, I've been a vegetarian for a year and a half now, and lately I've been tempted to go back to fish.

My reasons against are:
-fish are living too
-The environment (inefficiency of energy transfer between trophic levels)
-The idea of eating a dead animal is, quite frankly, gross

I know that eating fish is bad... but I keep thinking that I might be able to lose more weight if I go back to eating fish...
I'm just really worried I'll go back to fish, and the rational part of my brain knows it's bad, but still...
Do you guys have any advice or ideas?
Thanks, much appreciated,
Sarah
I strongly recommend reading Eating Animals by Jonathan Safran Foer. The parts about overfishing and bycatch will put you off for life, we are literally destroying our oceans and killing everything in them. Even tuna and oysters are going extinct. There's one especially disturbing part where he asks you to imagine getting a plate of sushi, if you were to include all the animals that were killed for it it would have to be at least 5 feet across. Also fish can feel pain as much as a cow or a chicken can.

I've never heard any evidence to support that eating fish would help you lose weight anyway, I lost more weight cutting out eggs and dairy than I ever did when I used to eat tuna and salmon.

http://overfishing.org/
 

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I'd rather not get into that, that's not what I'm asking and it's a really complicated matter.

I didn't really mean this to be about weight/weight loss, but rather about concrete reasons I can remind myself of as to why eating fish=bad
Check out this article proving fish can feel pain: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2983045.stm

And consider that no fish gets a humane death. They are either pulled up with a net and suffocate, or people bash their heads against the boat or cut them up while still alive. Not appetizing
 

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Awesome, thanks

Do you know if invertebrates can feel pain as well?
An invertebrate is just any animal without a backbone, so there's no single answer. Some definitely can, some are still up for debate, and some definitely can't. I don't think a sponge or an oyster can feel pain but invertebrates like squid, octopi, and cuttlefish have been found to not only be able to feel pain but they're also highly intelligent and you can teach them to do tricks.

I saw an article awhile back by a so called "vegan" who ate oysters and claimed that should be acceptable because they can't feel pain, but I think that's a little short sighted. There's still the environmental devastation we're causing through overfishing to think about, I don't really see the point of eating a species to extinction and throwing the ecosystem it's in out of wack because it doesn't have a nervous system.

You want to see something really scary? Check this out: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_818870.html

And this: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...efin-tuna.html
 
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