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<a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2011124/Cows-best-friends-stressed-separated.html" target="_blank">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...separated.html</a><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Cattle were penned on their own, with their best friend or with another cow they did not know for 30 minutes and their heart rates were measured at 15-second intervals.<br><br>
The research showed cows were very social animals which often formed close bonds with friends in their herd.<br>
'When heifers have their preferred partner with them, their stress levels in terms of their heart rates are reduced compared with if they were with a random individual,' Ms McLennan said.</div>
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Awww! This isn't exactly a surprise since they are herd animals but it's nice to have some actual research to back it up.<br><br>
This would be a great example to use for people who don't believe other mammals even have feelings <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:">
 

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That doesnt surprise me at all, when I was on the farm I could clearly see the strong relationships the animals had with each other. I felt that the animals could teach us humans a thing or two about friendship.
 

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Aww I love it. I visited some cows last weekend... there were about a half dozen of them and they were all together in the one small patch of shade in the big field (it was a hot hot day.) They didn't seem to mind being close <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Clever cows! I once had group of cows run along side me while cycling. They go fast!
 

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Awww. So many omnis are all about how they're 'only eating dumb animals', but cows clearly have the capacity to love.
 

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Aww <3
 

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I read about this about two months ago from another link. Shortly after going vegan, we had a project in biology where we could do anything relevant and present. I did mine on cows, and an omni friend did it with me because she was even interested in them when I told her about some of the things I read. When I was presenting, at one point I said, "Scientists have found that cows have emotions and feelings, including excitement and anxiety. They like to solve problems, and when they're successful, they show excitement, they're heart rate speeds up, and many cows even jump for joy in what scientists call a "eureka" moment. Anxiety is commonly exhibited by mother cows in dairy farms who have had their babies taken from them, as well as by the calves who have been separated from their mother." Everyone in the room went "Awww" really sadly. My next slide was about the products from cows, the top one was veal, and milk was another top one, too. I think it made some people think, as most of my report was on the intelligence and emotions of cows, I only included the product part because my teacher suggested it and I also wanted to make people think of all the horrible things cows are used for after we had just built up the whole presentation on cows being amazing, smart, sentient creatures. I think it made some people think, as I really didn't expect them to go "Awww", I expected them to all be scornful and call me a preachy animal lover <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>disney.jessica</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2939547"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I read about this about two months ago from another link. Shortly after going vegan, we had a project in biology where we could do anything relevant and present. I did mine on cows, and an omni friend did it with me because she was even interested in them when I told her about some of the things I read. When I was presenting, at one point I said, "Scientists have found that cows have emotions and feelings, including excitement and anxiety. They like to solve problems, and when they're successful, they show excitement, they're heart rate speeds up, and many cows even jump for joy in what scientists call a "eureka" moment. Anxiety is commonly exhibited by mother cows in dairy farms who have had their babies taken from them, as well as by the calves who have been separated from their mother." Everyone in the room went "Awww" really sadly. My next slide was about the products from cows, the top one was veal, and milk was another top one, too. I think it made some people think, as most of my report was on the intelligence and emotions of cows, I only included the product part because my teacher suggested it and I also wanted to make people think of all the horrible things cows are used for after we had just built up the whole presentation on cows being amazing, smart, sentient creatures. I think it made some people think, as I really didn't expect them to go "Awww", I expected them to all be scornful and call me a preachy animal lover <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"></div>
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Wow, I was totally expecting that story to end differently. That's wonderful! Gives me hope for the future.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>disney.jessica</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2939547"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I read about this about two months ago from another link. Shortly after going vegan, we had a project in biology where we could do anything relevant and present. I did mine on cows, and an omni friend did it with me because she was even interested in them when I told her about some of the things I read. When I was presenting, at one point I said, "Scientists have found that cows have emotions and feelings, including excitement and anxiety. They like to solve problems, and when they're successful, they show excitement, they're heart rate speeds up, and many cows even jump for joy in what scientists call a "eureka" moment. Anxiety is commonly exhibited by mother cows in dairy farms who have had their babies taken from them, as well as by the calves who have been separated from their mother." Everyone in the room went "Awww" really sadly. My next slide was about the products from cows, the top one was veal, and milk was another top one, too. I think it made some people think, as most of my report was on the intelligence and emotions of cows, I only included the product part because my teacher suggested it and I also wanted to make people think of all the horrible things cows are used for after we had just built up the whole presentation on cows being amazing, smart, sentient creatures. I think it made some people think, as I really didn't expect them to go "Awww", I expected them to all be scornful and call me a preachy animal lover <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"></div>
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Good for you! I'm glad it went well.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> And that teacher is AWESOME for suggesting the part about animal products.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>xamorphia</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2939561"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Wow, I was totally expecting that story to end differently. That's wonderful! Gives me hope for the future.</div>
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Yeah, I was sure it would, too, especially in my area and school where FFA is the biggest club.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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^ I agree, that sounded like a great project, DisneyJessica.</div>
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Thanks! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>sequoia</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2939980"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Good for you! I'm glad it went well.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> And that teacher is AWESOME for suggesting the part about animal products.</div>
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I was really glad, too <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> And yeah, she actually told us that we could have cows as our project as long as we did it on cow products since that was the main "importance" of cows. Instead of doing the whole thing on cow products, thought I did it on the actual biology and interesting facts about cows and just included one part about the products, and I was able to get a full grade, and she even told me she was glad I didn't do it all on cow products like she said because it was more interesting and she got to learn things, too <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> This was my teacher that made us skin, dissect, and decapitate a pig and wouldn't excuse me from it the week before the project, so it was really great that she actually acknowledged that farm animals aren't just "products". In the report we also found a video with a pet cow that was trained to jump hurdles in agility like a horse or dog, and the teacher said, "wow, I didn't know cows could that or were smart enough to learn like that!".
 

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I had a best friend that turned out to be a right cow.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> I didn't stress after we separated.<br><br><br><br>
Cute article that one. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/cool3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":cool:">
 

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I hate how people are so blind to animal emotions. When we see two humans who want to be together separated, we see their pain. We know they're sad and we feel for them.<br>
When we talk about non-human animals, we have to STUDY to make SURE what we're seeing is really emotions. When we separate them, they get "stressed", we have to measure heartbeats to confirm.<br><br>
Separate two humans, and if one of them cries people will agree they are sad at being separated. Separate two cows, watch one show sadness (crying out, searching for days) and people will debate as to whether the cow really has feelings.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Kai Reddtail</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2953730"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I hate how people are so blind to animal emotions. When we see two humans who want to be together separated, we see their pain. We know they're sad and we feel for them.<br>
When we talk about non-human animals, we have to STUDY to make SURE what we're seeing is really emotions. When we separate them, they get "stressed", we have to measure heartbeats to confirm.<br><br>
Separate two humans, and if one of them cries people will agree they are sad at being separated. Separate two cows, watch one show sadness (crying out, searching for days) and people will debate as to whether the cow really has feelings.</div>
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Well of course. I think there is a deep desire within people who eat meat to believe these animals don't really feel and all these clear indications of feeling are nothing more than 'instinct' or a 'reaction.'<br><br>
The second they acknowledge that what they are seeing is indeed pain they have to change their behaviour, and it seems like a lot of people would rather live in denial than take a hard look at their choices. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/brood.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":brood:">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Werewolf Girl</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2953734"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Well of course. I think there is a deep desire within people who eat meat to believe these animals don't really feel and all these clear indications of feeling are nothing more than 'instinct' or a 'reaction.'<br><br>
The second they acknowledge that what they are seeing is indeed pain they have to change their behaviour, and it seems like a lot of people would rather live in denial than take a hard look at their choices. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/brood.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":brood:"></div>
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Yeah, exactly, it's a search for justification
 

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Yeah, exactly, it's a search for justification</div>
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That or blissful ignorance. Most people are completely stubborn when it comes to changing any bad habit.
 
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