VeggieBoards banner

1 - 20 of 76 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,609 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
This thread is intended to be a "superthread" of sorts for all news stories about specific instances of animal abuse, torture, and cruelty. (Ex: cats found in dumpster, puppies thrown in river). It has been created at popular request so users don't have to see graphic and tragic thread titles as they browse the list of new posts.<br><br>
Please be as sensitive as possible to other animal-lovers' stomachs and don't post images. Please include a warning if your link includes images.<br><br>
Some of the most recent threads have been merged into this one.<br><br>
EDIT: I haven't been able to merge the most recent threads into this one without mucking everything up.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8,743 Posts
I don't get this at all! If something is newsworthy, it's worth its own thread if someone wants to post it. All stories are not the same, and sometimes they have actions associated with them, or updates, etc. I think this is bad. If people don't want to read articles, the titles should be clear enough or have a warning with them. If people don't even want to see titles that might imply animal abuse...well then stay off the web, because that's hard to miss no matter where you are.
 

·
Ankle Biter
Joined
·
9,333 Posts
Irizary, we had several requests for a containment thread. While animal issues are critically important, this remains first and foremost a vegetarian forum, not an animal welfare/rights forum and a number of requests to limit having to read ghastly titles had to be respected.
 

·
Herbivorous Urchin
Joined
·
9,717 Posts
I'm glad. While I wasn't one of the people asking for it, I'm glad it's happening. I don't like seeing sick/twisted things when I've already made the appropriate life style changes for my feelings/health.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
469 Posts
I agree with Irizary, especially if it's just a title. If people think it might be too upsetting, they can just not read the thread. The title of this topic is Veg/Animal Issues in the News, and a lot of veg*ns being animal lovers, there obviously will be people wanting to post articles about animals getting hurt or abused. Sure, there are 'feel good' stories out there too. But I think this is rather restrictive when we can't even post something with a title that might indicate animal abuse.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,609 Posts
Discussion Starter · #6 ·
<div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>roneet</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2865853"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I agree with Irizary, especially if it's just a title. If people think it might be too upsetting, they can just not read the thread. The title of this topic is Veg/Animal Issues in the News, and a lot of veg*ns being animal lovers, there obviously will be people wanting to post articles about animals getting hurt or abused. Sure, there are 'feel good' stories out there too. But I think this is rather restrictive when we can't even post something with a title that might indicate animal abuse.</div>
</div>
<br>
The title of your thread did way more than indicate animal abuse. It was a description of what happened to those poor kittens, and it upset many members of VB. We have a bunch of animal-lovers here who don't need to see that sentence when they log into VB. For further clarification, you can read the announcement in the Community Guidelines sub-forum. The scope of this thread may be narrower than what you are now imagining.<br><br>
This isn't really up for discussion. Any threads in the future about blatantly sadistic acts toward animals will be moved here. The end.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
469 Posts
Ok, what if the title itself is not descriptive at all...maybe like the way you changed it...e.g. If I have the title as 'News article about animal abuse (with graphic descriptions)'. Can I still post it as a separate thread or do I have to put it in this thread?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,609 Posts
Discussion Starter · #8 ·
<div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>roneet</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2865879"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Ok, what if the title itself is not descriptive at all...maybe like the way you changed it...e.g. If I have the title as 'News article about animal abuse (with graphic descriptions)'. Can I still post it as a separate thread or do I have to put it in this thread?</div>
</div>
<br>
Well then all the articles like that would likely have the same title, and non-specific ones at that. I realized when changing the title for yours how it was impossible to be specific yet make the title palatable.
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
8,995 Posts
I'm the one who started the thread asking for guidelines about titles, because of the graphic nature of the title of the kitten thread. Frankly, there are days when being confronted by something like that is enough to nudge me over the edge.<br><br>
I am not one of the ones objecting to the threads themselves - if people want to post stories and others want to read them, they should. I was just asking that thread titles about abuse be less graphic. If one of the first things I see when I click on VB, possibly for weeks on end, if the thread is active, is "Kittens' eyes poked out and teeth smashed", then I'm simply not going to click on VB. I have to be able to function in order to take care of the animals for whom I am responsible, and being confronted several times a day by horrors about which I can do nothing serves no useful purpose and is counterproductive to carrying out my responsibilities.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
469 Posts
I just think that if people have to throw all the different stories into just this One thread, it will be confusing for people to have discussions about a specific story. Say there's a story about dogs, another about cats, a third about horses...how are people going to discuss a specific topic when the posts just jump from one story to another?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
6,609 Posts
Discussion Starter · #11 ·
<div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>roneet</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2865887"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I just think that if people have to throw all the different stories into just this One thread, it will be confusing for people to have discussions about a specific story. Say there's a story about dogs, another about cats, a third about horses...how are people going to discuss a specific topic when the posts just jump from one story to another?</div>
</div>
<br>
Usually in these threads there is no discussion. Just a lot of sad emoticons and negative reactions.<br><br>
We also have a quote function.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
469 Posts
Hmm, ok, I see. So in addition to not being able to post the title of the topic, people are not supposed to have discussions about the stories either. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/lipsrsealed2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":sealed:">
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
7,245 Posts
<div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>mlp</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2865886"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I'm the one who started the thread asking for guidelines about titles, because of the graphic nature of the title of the kitten thread. Frankly, there are days when being confronted by something like that is enough to nudge me over the edge.<br><br>
I am not one of the ones objecting to the threads themselves - if people want to post stories and others want to read them, they should. I was just asking that thread titles about abuse be less graphic. If one of the first things I see when I click on VB, possibly for weeks on end, if the thread is active, is "Kittens' eyes poked out and teeth smashed", then I'm simply not going to click on VB. I have to be able to function in order to take care of the animals for whom I am responsible, and being confronted several times a day by horrors about which I can do nothing serves no useful purpose and is counterproductive to carrying out my responsibilities.</div>
</div>
<br>
Yes, thank you again, and thank you to the mods. I am still ill over that title. It's not possible not to see those titles in the today's posts list, and when there is no petition to sign or other action to be taken, besides dreaming about finding these psychos and giving them a taste of their own medicine, I don't want to see it, because I don't need to be going there. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br>
There's plenty of concern shown to those people who have eating disorders that can be triggered by merely seeing a thread title. I see no reason why sensitive and easily depressed or suicidal people shouldn't get the same consideration.
 

·
Herbivorous Urchin
Joined
·
9,717 Posts
<div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>roneet</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2865899"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Hmm, ok, I see. So in addition to not being able to post the title of the topic, people are not supposed to have discussions about the stories either. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/lipsrsealed2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":sealed:"></div>
</div>
<br>
As was stated, there is a quote function. And the supertopic is by popular demand. I usually don't come on here for a sick sighting of animal cruelty, this is for me, a place to get away from hearing about ugly things.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
16,664 Posts
I think this thread is a good idea <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:"><br><br>
I do like knowing what's happening in the world personally, I'd rather know just what horrors people are capable of and more importantly what other people do in response to it. One thing I've noticed with even the most atrocious of these stories is that there are always good people involved trying to rescue and help, and cases where the police fully take animal abuse seriously when I expected them to shrug it off, and hearing about that gives me some hope.<br><br>
That being said <i>of course</i> people should have a choice about whether or not they are exposed to such incredibly upsetting stories. Having a catch all thread is nice because we can still share information and have discussions but people can make a judgement call for themselves about whether or not they want a big dose of disturbing in their day.
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
8,995 Posts
<div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Werewolf Girl</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2865970"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I do like knowing what's happening in the world personally, I'd rather know just what horrors people are capable of and more importantly what other people do in response to it. One thing I've noticed with even the most atrocious of these stories is that there are always good people involved trying to rescue and help, and cases where the police fully take animal abuse seriously when I expected them to shrug it off, and hearing about that gives me some hope.</div>
</div>
<br>
Speaking for myself, I'm not closing my eyes to what people are capable of and in fact do. I've seen some of the results firsthand, and I hear plenty through the rescue groups with which I'm involved. But in those cases, I can do something to help, and I see others helping, so there's a purpose in knowing the horrific details. I avoid reading about cases where there's no action I can take, because there's no purpose to it, for me at least.
 

·
Banned
Joined
·
1,529 Posts
I think it will make discussion a messy and confusing, but if it makes that many people uncomfortable, it may be for the best.
 

·
Impeach the gangster
Joined
·
10,052 Posts
I've felt some discomfort over reading these thread titles too. Some reorganization seems a good idea. Sort of like a "Compost Heap" for animal abuse topics.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8,743 Posts
I still think it should just be a matter of making thread titles not very graphic, and putting a warning in the title that the content inside the thread is graphic. I thought that was a rule already.<br><br>
I don't think titles should be graphically upsetting either, but I think this should be a title and warning attached issue moreso than making an odd "containment" thread.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
526 Posts
<div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Capstan</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2866027"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I've felt some discomfort over reading these thread titles too. Some reorganization seems a good idea. Sort of like a "Compost Heap" for animal abuse topics.</div>
</div>
<br>
Agreed. I have an anxiety disorder, and many people on here do, so this is a great idea. I don't know why people are so opposed to it.
 
1 - 20 of 76 Posts
Top