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It's not a final thing, and I actually haven't told anybody about it, but I'm considering it. The only difference is that I would still drink soy milk [more healthier anyways], my margarine would most likely still be vegan, and the eggs would be farm bought [I really don't miss them as much as I thought I would].<br><br><br><br>
Before I do anything however, I would like to know a few things from you guys:<br><br><br><br>
1) When you switched back to veg, did you notice a huge change in your health?<br><br>
2) Did you end up switching back to veganism? Why/why not?<br><br>
3) How did your family/friends react? Did you get alot of grief about it?<br><br><br><br>
Thanks in advance.
 

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What were your reasons for going vegan?<br><br>
Have those issues changed?<br><br><br><br>
What are your reasons for wanting to backslide?<br><br><br><br><br><br>
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1) I attempted veganism shortly after I first went veg in '98. I wasn't too on top of the health game then, and really didn't know even close to what I know now. But yeah I was vegan for a month - then would eat cheese pizza - then go vegan for another month - then eat cheese pizza, did this for a couple months until I just stayed lacto vegetarian for several years.<br><br><br><br>
But yeah for 1) Yes. I would feel bloated and sick(stomach pains) every time I backslid and ate dairy.<br><br>
2) After several years I did return back to veganism, and have been vegan for 1 year now (my one year veganversary was a week ago <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> ). The reason being is that I knew what happened behind the scenes, I knew the information, and I knew that this was the goal, I knew what I was doing by consuming dairy. I just was in denial of it, or tried not to think about it, or made excuses for those 6-7 years. One night I just said "no more" and took the plunge.<br><br><br><br>
3) How did they react when I backslid? My family/friends thought I was finally coming around and was finally starting to get out of my "phase". They didn't give me grief at all, actually they were glad I was eating dairy again, and was hoping I would start eating fish again too.<br><br>
There is a good chance that when a <i>different</i> person stars becoming more <i>normal</i>, that other <i>normal</i> people will support it.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
Try to meditate on the reasons that led you to veganism in the first place and what has changed since then. From personal experience I would recommend not backsliding, dairy is hard a system, especially one that hasn't consumed it in a long time. Sure your body will most likely readjust eventually, but IMO it's not worth it, for health reasons alone.
 

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Whatever your choice, good luck.<br><br><br><br>
We will miss you, come back soon. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>UseHerName</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
It's not a final thing, and I actually haven't told anybody about it, but I'm considering it. The only difference is that I would still drink soy milk [more healthier anyways], my margarine would most likely still be vegan, <b>and the eggs would be farm bought</b> [I really don't miss them as much as I thought I would].</div>
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So what is it that is making you change heart? You don't miss eggs, milk... so you're having a cheese issue?<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Before I do anything however, I would like to know a few things from you guys:<br><br><br><br>
1) When you switched back to veg, did you notice a huge change in your health? .<br><br>
2) Did you end up switching back to veganism? Why/why not?<br><br>
3) How did your family/friends react? Did you get alot of grief about it?<br><br><br><br>
Thanks in advance.</div>
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1) Change in health how? My first attempt at veganism was<br><br>
six years ago and I really wasn't very informed at the time. I ate hummus, dolmas and dry rolls every day because I just didn't know any better at the time...<br><br>
Now that I'm a little wiser from life and via my first attempt I realize how important variety is... I think it was the lack of variety in my diet that made me switch back. It wasn't a matter of health per se at that time.<br><br><br><br>
2) Yes. DP was reading one of my old veg books on the <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/toilet.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":flush:"> one day and pronounced (after coming out of the loo) that he was going to be a vegetarian. It hit me like a ton of bricks, I basically became an instant vegan because it was something that I knew I had to do. [btw-he joined me w/in 2 weeks]<br><br><br><br>
3) Honestly this question is irrelevant in my case. I keep pretty quiet and have a very small and accepting groups of friends, and not much family.<br><br><br><br>
Hope that helped.
 

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So what is it that is making you change heart? You don't miss eggs, milk... so you're having a cheese issue?<br></div>
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Actually, I really don't miss cheese much at all. I prefer my pizza now without the cheese [people think I'm nuts when I tell them this]. Eggs don't really matter, and the idea of drinking milk [straight] digusts me.<br><br><br><br>
I guess it's not so much one huge thing, as it's just a bunch of little things. I found it less expensive and easier being vegetarian, but I'm also upset for even thinking of taking the easy way out. And I'm also dreading the looks I know I'll get from everyone - "She turned back to vegetarian, didn't you hear? Oh she'll be eating meat again in no time".<br><br><br><br>
Like I said, I'll be taking a couple of days to think about it before I even mention it to anybody.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>troub</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
What were your reasons for going vegan?<br><br>
Have those issues changed?<br><br><br><br>
What are your reasons for wanting to backslide?<br><br><br><br><br><br>
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1) I attempted veganism shortly after I first went veg in '98. I wasn't too on top of the health game then, and really didn't know even close to what I know now. But yeah I was vegan for a month - then would eat cheese pizza - then go vegan for another month - then eat cheese pizza, did this for a couple months until I just stayed lacto vegetarian for several years.<br><br><br><br>
But yeah for 1) Yes. I would feel bloated and sick(stomach pains) every time I backslid and ate dairy.<br><br>
2) After several years I did return back to veganism, and have been vegan for 1 year now (my one year veganversary was a week ago <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> ). The reason being is that I knew what happened behind the scenes, I knew the information, and I knew that this was the goal, I knew what I was doing by consuming dairy. I just was in denial of it, or tried not to think about it, or made excuses for those 6-7 years. One night I just said "no more" and took the plunge.<br><br><br><br>
3) How did they react when I backslid? My family/friends thought I was finally coming around and was finally starting to get out of my "phase". They didn't give me grief at all, actually they were glad I was eating dairy again, and was hoping I would start eating fish again too.<br><br>
There is a good chance that when a <i>different</i> person stars becoming more <i>normal</i>, that other <i>normal</i> people will support it.<br><br><br><br><br><br>
Try to meditate on the reasons that led you to veganism in the first place and what has changed since then. From personal experience I would recommend not backsliding, dairy is hard a system, especially one that hasn't consumed it in a long time. Sure your body will most likely readjust eventually, but IMO it's not worth it, for health reasons alone.</div>
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My reasons for going vegan still haven't changed, and I still agree with all of them. [reasons for backsliding, I've posted above]
 

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1) When you switched back to veg, did you notice a huge change in your health?<br><br>
No. I had read a lot of vegan propaganda claiming I would be ill as all hell, but I don't feel any different.<br><br><br><br>
2) Did you end up switching back to veganism? Why/why not?<br><br>
My reasons for going vegan were a mess, and I'm really not ready for it at this time.<br><br><br><br>
3) How did your family/friends react? Did you get alot of grief about it?<br><br>
They couldn't have cared less. They were, however, happy that we can go out to eat together again.<br><br><br><br>
I think that it's a personal decision, and whichever option makes you happiest is the best one for you.
 

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It's not a final thing, and I actually haven't told anybody about it, but I'm considering it. The only difference is that I would still drink soy milk [more healthier anyways], my margarine would most likely still be vegan, and the eggs would be farm bought [I really don't miss them as much as I thought I would].<br><br><br><br>
Before I do anything however, I would like to know a few things from you guys:<br><br><br><br>
1) When you switched back to veg, did you notice a huge change in your health?<br><br>
2) Did you end up switching back to veganism? Why/why not?<br><br>
3) How did your family/friends react? Did you get alot of grief about it?<br><br><br><br>
Thanks in advance.</div>
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About 2 years ago I made the decision to go from vegan back to vegetarian, after having been vegan for about 6 months. I was mostly concerned about getting a natural source of B-12 for my family (I have 2 kids) and for simpifying the eating out issue. Let me answer your questions now:<br><br><br><br><b><span style="color:#800080;">1) When you switched back to veg, did you notice a huge change in your health?</span></b> Not immediately. But overall I find that dairy consumption gives me a "stuffy nose" feeling. My oldest son (who was 1 at the time) developed eczema on his face at almost the exact same time we added in dairy and eggs. I don't know if this was coincidental, but it did go away after about another 6 months or so.<br><br><br><br><b><span style="color:#800080;">2) Did you end up switching back to veganism? Why/why not?</span></b> YES!!! I started the switch back to veganism about 2 months ago - my husband and kids have too - and we're pretty much there now! My husband and I moved to a new apartment and uncovered our "Chew on This" PETA DVD that has "Meet Your Meat" on it. After watching that, I opened up some of my vegan books and started reading again (like <span style="text-decoration:underline;">The Vegan Sourcebook</span> by Joanne Stepaniak). I went online and did more research, and ended up watching some more videos, including <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Earthlings</span>. Then we checked out <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Peaceable Kingdom</span> from our local library. Basically, we made ourselves confront the attrocities of the animal industry, and we agreed that we could no longer support <span style="text-decoration:underline;">any</span> of it.<br><br><br><br>
By the way, originally when I went back to lacto-ovo, I convinced myself that I was still removed from the factory-farming industry because I only would buy eggs/dairy from Organic Valley. However, I discovered that Organic Valley buys their chicks from a large hatchery, so indirectly I was supporting the very industry that "disposes" of millions of male chicks. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/bigcry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":cry:"> Also, regardless of how "humane" the source of dairy products is, the reality is that the milk was meant for the calves, and in order for humans to take it, the calf has to be taken from the mother. As a nursing mother myself, I just can't imagine what those mother cows go through. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/no.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":no:"> The other thing is, I found myself gradually relaxing my standards. I would order a quesadilla or omelet at a restaurant, and I'm sure they used conventionally produced (i.e. factory farmed) eggs and cheese. Or I would be at Costco, and see that I could buy a 5 lb block of Tillamook cheese for $8.00 where I could only buy about 1 lb of Organic Valley cheese for the same amount. Economics would win out -- and I would buy the non-organic brand. (incidentally, it would have been much cheaper for me to just <i>not</i> buy the cheese! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"> )<br><br><br><br><b><span style="color:#800080;">3) How did your family/friends react? Did you get alot of grief about it?</span></b> My family was ecstatic about our choice to be lacto-ovo again. My mom was excited to make me lasagna again and I think both my parents got a warm fuzzy every time they saw my kids eat cheese. Our decision to go vegan again has really upset them. One thing you might want to think about is how everyone will react if you switch to vegetarian, and then decide you really wanted to be vegan after all. Then you'll be a flip-flopper like me, and nobody will take you seriously! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br><br><br>
I hope something in there helps you! It's your journey, you have to do what you think is right. One thing I would advise is to return to the literature/films that made you decide to be vegan in the first place. Remind yourself of why you are doing it before you decide to give it up. HTH!
 

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<b>1) When you switched back to veg, did you notice a huge change in your health?</b><br><br>
I didn't notice any change at all. Lately, though, I've been eating crap and I can feel like THAT you wouldn't believe. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/no.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":no:"> I think if you <b>do</b> change to vegetarian, you should center your diet real foods and not the stuff worthy of a garbage scow. IME, if you eat garbage, you'll feel like garbage and I don't want you to repeat my mistakes at all (and yes, eating as craptastically as I've been eating IS a mistake, lemme just tell ya).<br><br><br><br><b>2) Did you end up switching back to veganism? Why/why not?</b><br><br>
I've always been vegetarian and vegetarian I shall always be no matter how "vegan" my lifestyle might become. I find it's just easier on my emotions and my well-being that way and I find I'm less harsh against myself over slipups. I went vegan in Jan 06 during the VB "go vegan for a month challenge" and couldn't last a week because everything I ate, drank, or used made me feel soooo paranoid and paralyzingly guilty. All I changed was my lable when I went back to vegetarian and believe me, I feel much less pressured to be perfect and more tolerant of everything, including myself. It's a strange mind-game but on me, it works.<br><br><br><br><b>3) How did your family/friends react? Did you get alot of grief about it?</b><br><br>
My husband is the only one that really knows and he doesn't really care except maybe to warn me of something that he knows will flare me. Everyone else just thinks I'm vegan and I pretty much let them think that although I do correct them and tell them that I'm really a vegetarian that doesn't eat milk products or eggs (don't call me vegan <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/brood.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":brood:"> ).<br><br><br><br>
In the end, you've gotta do what's right for you and no one else. I know some purists will disagree and say that veganity is the only path worth being on, but THEY don't live your life and THEY don't know what you're really dealing with. Only you know that. Whatever you decide to do though, remember that you're STILL doing more than most would and that right there should be something you should be proud of. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:">
 

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I think it would be better to disregard trace amounts, and when dining with friends, the not obvious ingredients, than to go back to eating eggs and consuming very diary products.
 

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When I switched back to l/o veg after being vegan, I noticed I gained weight and I get stuffed up and mucusey (sp?) every time I eat dairy.<br><br><br><br>
I am planning on switching back in the new year. It just makes me feel better, mentally and physically.<br><br><br><br>
My friends and family are happier when I eat eggs and dairy. It makes their lives easier, but they support me either way.
 

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I vote eat what you feel is OK, whatever that may be, and drop lables. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
The "vegan" lable can be like a ton of bricks... and vegans are vegetarian, so if you wanted to use that as an explanation when people ask you why you aren't ordering meat, etc, it's true either way.<br><br><br><br>
I am basically vegan, I guess... but I still use "vegetarian" if anyone asks why no chicken/ham, etc. (most people here don't know what "vegan" is anyway)<br><br><br><br>
HTH, and good luck, whatever you happen to eat. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 
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