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Saw this article and wondered what you guys thought:<br><br><a href="http://ca.news.yahoo.com/study-proves-rats-not-selfish-caring-192855010.html" target="_blank">http://ca.news.yahoo.com/study-prove...192855010.html</a>
 

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VERY cool. Even though I've heard stories about colonies of rats fighting each other, this doesn't surprise me.
 

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That is so cool!!!! Thank you for posting!
 

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It really bothers me that scientists seem to think that humans and "higher primates" have special traits that an animal as "lowly" as a rat couldn't possibly possess.
 

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When one of my rats was sick and couldn't climb up the level to get food, the other rats brought her food and snuggled up to her to keep her warm. When another one of my rats died I let them see her body so they would understand where she went and they all grieved for about a week. I could tell they were depressed. They were hardly eating and weren't active like they normally are.<br><br>
They are simply amazing and beautiful animals and they don't get enough credit.
 

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brightened my day <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>TamSmith</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3054321"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
When one of my rats was sick and couldn't climb up the level to get food, the other rats brought her food and snuggled up to her to keep her warm. When another one of my rats died I let them see her body so they would understand where she went and they all grieved for about a week. I could tell they were depressed. They were hardly eating and weren't active like they normally are.<br><br>
They are simply amazing and beautiful animals and they don't get enough credit.</div>
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Rats are very caring creatures, I can't believe people think otherwise.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Empty_Shell</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3054466"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Yeah, you're only *obviously* compassionate if you keep other beings captive to study for signs that they're compassionate.</div>
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I know. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:">
 

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It's sad that we need studies like this but with how stupid a lot of people are.... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:"><br><br>
It is amazing that we consider ourselves superior when we can't see obvious facts.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Werewolf Girl</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3054526"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
It's sad that we need studies like this but with how stupid a lot of people are.... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":rolleyes:"><br><br>
It is amazing that we consider ourselves superior when we can't see obvious facts.</div>
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Yeah. Anyone with a pet rat could have told you that!
 

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Unless it's a hamster.<br><br>
Who may eat their babies.
 

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The 'alternate explanation' at the end - that "the free rats are acting to relieve their own distress at their cagemate's suffering" - is the same argument put forward by skeptics of alturism in humans (like followers of Ayn Rand). I don't buy that viewpoint at all (for any species), but it's out there.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Envy</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3054679"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Unless it's a hamster.<br><br>
Who may eat their babies.</div>
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Rats can do that too. Mine didn't, all 13 survived birth. Hamsters are not so nice, I don't know why people pick them over rats.
 

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Raties are awesome!
 

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Rats can do that too. Mine didn't, all 13 survived birth. Hamsters are not so nice, I don't know why people pick them over rats.</div>
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...I watched one of my rats eat her still born pups :/ I didn't know she was pregnant (I only had girls then too.. now it's the opposite lol)<br>
She had a URI so I took her to the vet, put her on baytril and doxy.. a few weeks later she had still born pups. I was heart broken...
 
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