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I have been veggie since I found out what meat was at the age of 4 and my parents have been supportive of my decision (they thought i would grow out of it!) 30 years on I am married to a vegetarian and am raising 22 month old vegetarian twins, most of my friends are omni and it has never been an issue.<br><br>
Since I had the babies, everyone has started making comments like "are you going to let them eat meat" "I think its wrong to impose your views on a child" "you should let them eat what they want" as well as lots of implying that they will grow up short and unintellagent! I could tollerate this from strangers but its from people who are my closest friends and family! at a barbeque this summer my best friend was trying to get the twins to pick up chicken drumsticks from peoples plates and laughing at me. I know I shouldn't take it seriously and always laugh it off but It has left me feeling lonely and changed the way I look at my friends.
 

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I'm a recent father and have fortunately not had comments like that thrown at me yet. I don't think I'm imposing my views on my daughter by raising her vegan any more than non-veg people impose their views on their children by feeding them dead animals. I guess most meat-eaters don't even consider the possibility of raising their children on a more compassionate diet, nor do they stop to consider the ethical, environmental and health aspects of their own diets and lifestyles.<br><br>
Lots of children are raised vegetarian and grow up to become both tall and healthy. As long as you are educated in nutrition and cooking, and you have access and the means to purchase what you need in the grocery store, there is no reason your children should suffer any negative consequences from their diet. In fact, as far as nutrition is concerned they will have an advantage over the non-veg children.<br><br>
Of course there comes a time when our children will have to decide for themselves, but that won't be for many years yet, and by that time I feel certain that they too will have become convinced that meat is not for us to eat.<br><br>
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Rubbish, all parents "impose" their views on their offspring, I don't know what those people are talking about. Seriously if someone brought up that "you should let them eat what they want" crap with me I respond "<i>Really</i>, so if they wanted to eat nothing but chips, cookies and soda I ought to let them?"
 

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Since I had the babies, everyone has started making comments like "are you going to let them eat meat" "I think its wrong to impose your views on a child"s.</div>
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You have children, you "impose your views" on them, no matter what. Raising them vegetarian is no different from raising them eating meat, in any religious tradition, or teaching them any social norms or customs. Parents have to teach their kids what they think is right, and since what is right is different for every person, every person teaches their children different things. Maybe you should point this out to your friends : )<br><br>
I also think that your friends telling you that your children will grow up to be short and unintelligent doesn't come from a place of concern for your children, but a place of wanting to be right about vegetarianism.
 

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Your children are so lucky to have such a great start! You are a great mom, happy new year!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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How is any different than parents forcing religion on there kids or forcing there kids to eat meat. I see nothing wrong with raisig your kids how you want to. When there old enough they can make there own decisions. Parents are always going to influence there children regaurdless.
 

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Rubbish, all parents "impose" their views on their offspring, I don't know what those people are talking about. Seriously if someone brought up that "you should let them eat what they want" crap with me I respond "<i>Really</i>, so if they wanted to eat nothing but chips, cookies and soda I ought to let them?"</div>
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absolutely.<br><br>
that was what i wanted to reply <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Rubbish, all parents "impose" their views on their offspring</div>
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Exactly, teaching children basic morals is a part of parenting. It's the same as teaching children not to be violent, raising them vegetarian or vegan teaches them to appreciate animals, and teaches them about making good choices in addition to developing ethics in general. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I recently went veg.<br><br>
I have a 3 yr old and a 1 year old. The 1 year old is veg, the 3 year old rarely eats chicken but she drinks milk and eats cheese like nobody's business. *I* am trying to wean her and find alternatives. I'm concerned after reading the China Study.<br><br>
My family have made a few comments, but I go into any decision for my kids well researched so I'm able to shut down discussions pretty quickly.<br><br>
It still hurts, though. It hurts that it isn't a more accepted lifestyle, especially when the health benefits are so great.<br><br>
However, your BFF? Is not a good friend. Seriously. I'd sit her down now and tell her that behavior is completely unacceptable.
 

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I'm sorry you're going through this.<br><br>
My son is just a little bit older than your twins. I hear some of these same comments. Luckily, my close family are also vegan or vegetarian so they know better. But there are plenty of other people in my life who say things that get under my skin. It's not just about veg stuff though, it's also about religion, adoption, race, etc.<br><br>
Here's what I've noticed:<br>
- Most people are ignorant. They're really <i>very</i> uneducated about most of these things. They ask the silliest questions. Often, they're unwittingly hurtful. I try to just brush it off. When it gets to me and I act a little rude in response, well then I just have to apologize and also forgive myself. It's natural to be upset by people who say hurtful things. Their ignorance is an explanation, not a justification, for their behavior.<br>
- As a first time mom, I'm pretty darn sensitive about all of it. I feel like everyone is criticizing me and watching closely. I feel like I have to be the perfect mom because of all the unique ways in which our family draws attention. Of course, that's impossible to be perfect all the time. I have a hunch that as my son gets older I'll be a little less sensitive about it all.<br>
- We get to choose how to respond or even if we want to respond. Remember, you always have the option to simply walk away or ignore rude people. Often it's better to speak up but when you can't muster the courage or find the empathy to educate, you can always just ignore them or remove yourself and your children from the situation. For the record, ignoring and walking away may not educate the offensive people but it sure does tend to change their behavior - they are unlikely to act that way around you again.<br>
- I made a binder with articles about vegan nutrition for children. It helped me feel confident about feeding my son and it helps to have that to show anyone who may question our diet.<br>
- Obviously, the best defense against any health criticisms of veg diets for children is simply to have happy healthy kids. So do everything you can to make sure your kiddos are happy and healthy.<br>
- It helps to spend time with other veg families. Seek them out on meetup.com or elsewhere. As your kids get older it will be good too because then they'll have veg friends to bond with. My 12-year-old vegetarian nephew has a blast with one of his veg friends because they get to talk about things neither of them get to discuss with their meat-eating friends. Luckily, they also enjoy similar video games and sports.<br><br>
Good luck! Feel free to PM me if you want to talk more <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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we all need to have a playdate!<br><br>
Yeah- I get it sometimes from new people- all the people close to me have settled on my decision to raise my kids vegan and stopped making comments.<br>
Its important to become super educated and positive when responding to comments like that. It might be an opportunity to open someones mind about the idea. (nothing better than an entire family becoming vegan because of your example!) Just smile and remember that they haven't been informed like you have. They don't realize what they eat and feed their kids, its been ingrained in them their whole lives.<br>
My brother in law (they are trying for a baby) asked me over the holidays if I was concerned about them getting nutrition with this diet. I was excited that the opportunity presented itself to inform a growing family how great it all is.<br>
Some of my main points I use with others are:<br><br>
- that because I am vegan I take the time to prepare super healthy meals from real vegetables, grains and legumes, that we rarely eat processed food anymore because of it. That my kids eat so much healthier than most kids in America with their boxed mac and cheese, formed chicken nuggets, and concentrated sugary juice boxes.<br><br>
- that you would be surprised what my kids will eat! My daughter will smack her lips when she sees mushrooms, tofu, spinach, and apples. Most kids would fight you off with a stick. They drink a smoothie every day made from fresh fruits and vegetables.<br><br>
- that they drink 3 cups at least of soymilk a day. It has twice the calcium that regular milk has. And a good amount of protein. In fact- they get more complete proteins weekly from grains and legumes than most kids get in a month.<br><br>
- that my kids love animals so much. They hug and pet them, they make all the animal noises, they can identify pretty much all of the common ones. They would be devastated to come to find that people eat these animals. (I save that one for only certain people- it can make some defensive)<br><br>
This usually ends the questioning for good. Then they see how awesome my body is after 2 kids from a great healthy diet. And that I have all this energy after a daily run/ workout and chase after two toddlers all day. (lol- I want them to think all this! jk)<br><br>
and Elaine- I was hoping as time went on/ my kids were older it wouldn't be an issue anymore, but I keep running into new social situations with them. Preschool, babysitters, sports, then kindergarten, birthday parties, etc...all become "<i>Raising your child vegan</i>" Q & A sessions. I need a tee-shirt with everything outlined so I can carry on with business as usual in new food situations.
 

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I know probably a lot of us who weren't raised vegetarian probably wish we were. I was raised on a total junk food diet and ended up pretty short (5'2") and obese. In fact, I was obese as early as age 5.<br><br>
You're doing your kids a favor. Even if they decide to eat meat later in life, they'll never have the regret that a life-long meat-eater has when they go vegetarian.
 

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I have been veggie since I found out what meat was at the age of 4 and my parents have been supportive of my decision (they thought i would grow out of it!) 30 years on I am married to a vegetarian and am raising 22 month old vegetarian twins, most of my friends are omni and it has never been an issue.<br><br>
Since I had the babies, everyone has started making comments like "are you going to let them eat meat" <b>"I think its wrong to impose your views on a child"</b> "you should let them eat what they want" as well as lots of implying that they will grow up short and unintellagent! I could tollerate this from strangers but its from people who are my closest friends and family! at a barbeque this summer my best friend was trying to get the twins to pick up chicken drumsticks from peoples plates and laughing at me. I know I shouldn't take it seriously and always laugh it off but It has left me feeling lonely and changed the way I look at my friends.</div>
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I also get told I should let my kids eat meat and that I'm imposing my morals on them. I turn it around on these people and ask them what parent doesn't impose their morals on their children. Isn't that what parents are supposed to do? I don't get it. While in my house my kids eat vegan. Before they were school age they weren't allowed to be given meat. After they went to school I figured that they could access meat if they really wanted it at school so I let them know it was their decision. The thing is they have zero interest in eating meat. They know all about factory farms and do not want to eat meat, dairy or eggs. They check ingredients(as best they can) and ask people questions before accepting food.<br>
Ask these friends if their kids can stay up as late as they want or choose not to go to school, or would they impose their will on their kids?
 

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Since I had the babies, everyone has started making comments like "are you going to let them eat meat" "I think its wrong to impose your views on a child" "you should let them eat what they want" as well as lots of implying that they will grow up short and unintelligent.</div>
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For them to come out with that crap like that, it really does not sound like eating meat has done their collective intellects much of a favour actually.<br><br>
i would leave a bbq if my friends acted like that.
 

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I have been veggie since I found out what meat was at the age of 4 and my parents have been supportive of my decision (they thought i would grow out of it!) 30 years on I am married to a vegetarian and am raising 22 month old vegetarian twins, most of my friends are omni and it has never been an issue.<br><br>
Since I had the babies, everyone has started making comments like "are you going to let them eat meat" "I think its wrong to impose your views on a child" "you should let them eat what they want" as well as lots of implying that <b>they will grow up short and unintellagent</b>! I could tollerate this from strangers but its from people who are my closest friends and family! at a barbeque this summer my best friend was trying to get the twins to pick up chicken drumsticks from peoples plates and laughing at me. I know I shouldn't take it seriously and always laugh it off but It has left me feeling lonely and changed the way I look at my friends.</div>
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I've heard plenty of ignorant comments, don't let it get you down. But, anyway, my kids are all VERY intelligent, successful students, and, OMG, if my boys grow any taller when they hit their late teens, it'll be almost scary!
 

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... I guess most meat-eaters don't even consider the possibility of raising their children on a more compassionate diet, nor do they stop to consider the ethical, environmental and health aspects of their own diets and lifestyles. ...</div>
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Yes, people so thoughtless just in general, often put their ethics on cruise-control, so to speak. I've seen mothers at birthday parties, when their toddlers wanted to leave remainder of their cake&ice cream and go play, strap them into chairs and spoon feed them while tuning out their whines... and it's like, maybe you got into this habit when they never want peas&carrots, but why don't you look at what you're doing right now? He needs to learn to finish all his sugar? Really?!
 

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Ugh. I'm not even a parent and I get these kinds of questions, mostly from my family. My boyfriend and I are both long time vegans and if we ever have a child we will raise them vegan, too. My mother (even just this past week) always tries to challenge me on this, asking questions like "what are you going to do when they go to a birthday party, send food along with them??" (Note that she says this in a snarky tone as if it is an absurd idea)... I say... "Yes! If they are having hot dogs at the party, I'll send along a veggie dog. If they are having pizza, I'll send pizza! She always shakes her head and says that we are "making things very difficult for ourselves." In her crazy-brain, she thinks that our child will be deprived, the weirdo, and will be just DYING to get their little hands on meat and dairy the second they are out of the house. Sheesh!!<br><br>
You're a good mama, and I know it's hard to feel like none of your good friends understand. Maybe you should try to find another vegan/vegetarian family in your area that you can make friends with?? Via the internet or community bulletin boards, etc??
 
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