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Anyone know anyone with chronic pain who has managed to take a full course load of college courses? Matriculate, or whatever it is called?<br><br><br><br>
Or does the pain prevent one from doing such a thing? From concentrating on 5 courses, with classes and homework for each? Or is it possible to do such a thing despite daily pain? Is it my lack of intellegence that prevents me from doing this, so that iif I got rid of the pain, I still wouldn't be able to expect to be able to carry a full course load?
 

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One way to find out: find a way to ease the chronic pain through some therapy.<br><br>
I don't have chronic pain but it sounds terrible.<br><br>
I hope there is some remedy you can take to ease it somewhat.<br><br>
What is the pain caused by?
 

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Everyone is different. It all depends on what you feel you are able to handle. I've had students with chronic conditions (I don't know specifically about their pain levels) who go to school full time. It sounds to me like you feel you need to get your pain under control before you can concentrate on classes, so if that's how you feel, that's what you need to do. What help have you gotten for your pain?
 

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"I've had students with chronic conditions (I don't know specifically about their pain levels) who go to school full time. It sounds to me like you feel you need to get your pain under control before you can concentrate on classes, so if that's how you feel, that's what you need to do. What help have you gotten for your pain?"<br><br><br><br>
I want to know if (1) it is possible to concentrate on that many classes, whilst having chronic pain, that is not being treated. (2) Is it possible to do well in all the courses despite being being treated for pain with strong pain relievers? Do the pain relievers themselves make it harder to concentrate, whilst ameliorating the pain? Is it possible to read and listen and undertand while in pain, assuming there is not enough eye pain to make reading difficult. Can you pass all these courses if you have chronic back pain? Chronic dental pain?<br><br><br><br>
What kind of chronic conditions did your students have? Did they experience pain many hours each day on most days, and still take a full course load? Are they able to carry their course load despite the pain.<br><br><br><br>
Can people with a painful disability take a full course load, or is it only people with non-painful disabilities? Locomotion disabilities that don't hurt?
 

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I don't want to go thru the trouble of relieving my pain, and take the physical risk of taking powerful opioids, only to find that I still can't take a full course load, because I have a basic learning disability.<br><br><br><br>
My teeth hurt. But I will have to go to 4 years of college, get a degree, and then get a job, <b>before</b> I can get them fixed.<br><br><br><br><span style="color:#FF0000;"><b>If you want to address how I am going to get my teeth fixed, please address this in the topic for that. This topic is the how am I going to get an education topic.</b></span>
 

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Have you considered just starting a two year program part time or something like that to give you an idea of what you'll be able to do? A community college might be a good place to start and most have excellent job placement programs so you might be able to get a job while in school.
 

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How do you plan on paying for four years of school if you can't afford to fix your teeth?</div>
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Fair question...
 

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"How do you plan on paying for four years of school if you can't afford to fix your teeth?"<br><br><br><br>
NYS will gladly pay schools to give anyone on social security disability an education. The cover the complte costs of tuition and books. The give you stnadard tests to see wht subjects they think you will do better at, and may not be willing pay for other subjects. Also, they want to make sure its gola is eductional that is valuable to list on a resume to get a job. But they WILL pay for education. They wll pay for most medical care too. If I were to injure or get an illness in any part of my body, they would pay for any medical care necessary to keep the injured or sick appendage -- except for teeth. That, they view more like fingernails -- even tho in realit they are more like fingers.<br><br><br><br>
They will pay for a haircut, clothing, even cosmetic eyes to replace a lost eye, or cosmetic testicle implants to replace lost testicles. They just won't pay for teeth. Not even dentures. They will pay to amputate a tooth, but not to save it.
 

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if you have an dead tooth or infection your not going to last 4 years on tylenol. you should look into dental insurance.
 

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Please do not discuss how i might deal with my teeth in this thread. Move it to the tooth thread I started.
 

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It is easy to get a grant for tuition if you are disadvantaged, less fortunate. i.e. those that can't afford dental expenses.<br><br><br><br>
I think it depends on how bad you want to learn and on how severe the pain is. I would start attending if you want this education. I don't know about NYU but here and in other states, <b>full-time</b> students receive insurance regardless of their financial situation. Once you gain your full-time student status then perhaps you can take care of the pain?? The insurance is not that great but at the very least you could get medicine to cope with the pain. Depending on the strength of the med and how your body handles it, it may or may not hinder your concentration. As far as intelligence goes, you may be an odd ball, but you are not lacking in the intelligence dept. I am sure you would do great in school. Maybe as someone else suggested, start out at a junior college taking 2 or 3 classes at first until you get comfortable with a study habit routine, etc. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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"It is easy to get a grant for tuition if you are disadvantaged, less fortunate. i.e. those that can't afford dental expenses."<br><br><br><br>
Yup. That's what I just said.<br><br><br><br>
" full-time students receive insurance regardless of their financial situation."<br><br><br><br>
Huh? When I was a fulltime student back in 1965-1967 I did NOT have any insurance coverage from the school. None whatsoever. When I got even the slightest illness, the school infirmary took care of only the most emergency problems, and then said get your own doctor with your own or your family's money or insurance. Again, the insurance I have now covers everything but dental care. I already took care of my hernias, and my stomach ulcers and am taking care of my prostate and my pain, with this insuarance. But all the dental insurance will cover is emergency extraction of teeth and leaving me with dangerously shifting other teeth.<br><br><br><br>
" I am sure you would do great in school."<br><br><br><br>
I am not. I am articulate. The kind of ability required to do well in school is very different. I am not sure that I am not "learning-disabled" in that regard. I find it confusing to try and take more than 1 course at once, and often find that I have to do 12 times as much homework, for one course, as the amount the instructors suggest is needed. I timed it.
 

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I am not sure if I take 12 hours to do 1 hour of homework because of the pain, or because I am slow, or because of the medicine I take for pain. I think all 3. I remember taking 4 hours to do one hour of homework, before the pain started.
 

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Huh? When I was a fulltime student back in 1965-1967 I did NOT have any insurance coverage from the school. None whatsoever. When I got even the slightest illness, the school infirmary took care of only the most emergency problems, and then said get your own doctor with your own or your family's money or insurance. Again, the insurance I have now covers everything but dental care. I already took care of my hernias, and my stomach ulcers and am taking care of my prostate and my pain, with this insuarance. But all the dental insurance will cover is emergency extraction of teeth and leaving me with dangerously shifting other teeth.</div>
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I don't know about other states but in MA insurance is mandatory and if the student doesn't have it then you'll get signed on to the school's medical plan. You still have to pay for it though but grants can cover it. Five years ago it was around 5-600 a year and now it's almost 900. We don't get dental.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">" I am sure you would do great in school."<br><br><br><br>
I am not. I am articulate. The kind of ability required to do well in school is very different. I am not sure that I am not "learning-disabled" in that regard. I find it confusing to try and take more than 1 course at once, and often find that I have to do 12 times as much homework, for one course, as the amount the instructors suggest is needed. I timed it.</div>
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From reading your posts this past year I can see how you could have a problem with a large course load. At the same time, your type of "smarts" would be such an advantage.
 

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" but in MA insurance is mandatory"<br><br><br><br>
prob in 1967 my parents had me on their policy and the school accepted that -- and that explains why they said they couldn't treat me at the infirmiry except for emergency, and to see my family MD.<br><br><br><br>
Now, they would accept my medicare and medicaid which I already have -- but which of course doesn't cover dental. So we are back to square 1. Someone before said that the school <b>provides</b> insurance. The reality is that they <b>require that you be insured -- pay for your own insurance.</b>. If you have an accident or get sick on campus, you have coverage. Unless you break your teeth on campus.
 

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soilmanI want to know if (1) it is possible to concentrate on that many classes said:
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Again, I don't think these are questions anyone can answer for you. What's possible for some people isn't possible for others. Pain is highly subjective. I know I can't take much pain at all, and probably wouldn't be working if I were in chronic pain. However, some people who have lived with pain for a long time have amazing threshholds. From your posts so far, it sounds like <i>you</i> feel your pain is probably too severe for you to take on a full course load successfully.<br><br><br><br>
Perhaps I missed something, but why do you have to go full-time? Will you only get financial assistance if you're a full-time student? Because otherwise I'd suggest taking one or two classes and seeing how it goes. I know sometimes it's hard to get financial aid as a part-time student though.
 

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" why do you have to (to school) go full-time?"<br><br><br><br>
I don't. I don't have to go to school at all. I was just trying to get some self-knowledge about my mental abilities, both general and relative to success in formal education, compared to that of other people. Am I really a fast learner but pain is slowing me down? Or am I a slow learner anyway? Or How much of each? I find it annoying that people keep saying I seem so intelligent, but at the same time I have such a difficult time succeeding in getting decent grades in courses, that other people don't seem to have such a difficult time succeeding at. If I want to succeed, should I concentrate my efforts, priortize, improving my learning ability, identifying any learning disabilities, or should I put lessening my pain first. If it isn't the pain, I don't want to put my body and risk by taking opioids, or risk becoming physically dependent on them, if even after they help me with the pain, I still have trouble learning.<br><br><br><br>
I sense myself that I am brilliantly perceptive, and extraordinarly able to articulate things from a fresh point of view that illuminates thing. But I think that people assume that therefore I must be a fast learner, and that this may or may not be a mistaken assumption. They also jump to the conclusion that if I am very intelligent, but I don't do well in formal education, that the reason must be "psychological problems" and they seem to think that that isis all that is left as an alternative explanation. But I don't think I have a psychological problem in that regard.
 

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I think you mentioned before that you have a learning disability. If so, what is the nature of that disability? Have you been formally tested for learning disabilities? A learning disability (as well as psychological factors) can often explain why a very intelligent person such as yourself has trouble succeeding in certain subject areas. College campuses these days have disabled student resource centers where they can test you and determine if you have a learning disability. If it turns out that you do, they can arrange appropriate accomodations for you, such as having a notetaker, extended test time or recording lectures. I strongly suggest contacting the person in charge of disabled student resources at your campus and tell them about your situation.<br><br><br><br>
None of this addresses the issue of your pain though. If you're in so much pain that you cannot concentrate on your schoolwork, the learning disability issue is moot.
 
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