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Originally Posted by cornernote View Post

At the end of the day we are both saving animal lives.
I don't think either of you are saving animal lives, based on your description. You may choose not to do some things that kill/harm animals that other people choose to do, but that doesn't mean you're saving anything. Same for him.

As for car versus meat, the footprint calculator is a good idea:
All other things being equal, a person who eats meat daily, never drives a car or motorbike, never takes public transportation, uses 21.1 global acres and would need 4.8 planet earths to support their lifestyle.

A vegan who drives 150-200 miles per week in a car that gets 30-40 mpg (US) and takes occasional public transportation, uses 19.3 global acres and would need 4.3 planet earths.

(used the same amount for size of house, electricity, running water, distance for food to travel/local food.)

using footprintnetwork.org
 

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my footprint.org, meateater who eats meat daily - 5.33 earths
vegan who uses a vehicle and some public transport (150 miles per week x 52 weeks, plus 100 miles in public per year, whereas omni had zero) - 3.56 earths
 
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