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I was just wondering if anybody else knew the awful facts about Canola Oil aka Rapeseed oil? If not maybe others will appreciate knowing this now too. I recently found out more about it. I always check my labels now.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.karinya.com/canola.htm" target="_blank">http://www.karinya.com/canola.htm</a><br><br><br><br><br><br>
It's so incredibly frustrating that I find more and more products and ingredients that are just awful to be eating due to later side-effects or early side-effects. I think it's healthy because it's vegetarian and then I find out more and look on many of my vegetarian products and see Canola oil....that wiped out many of my frozen patties...*sigh*<br><br><br><br>
Anyways just in case you don't do it often, check your labels. MANY MANY FOODS STILL CONTAIN MSG! Campbells Soup, Hidden Valley, Pringles, many processed foods do.<br><br><br><br>
It's tough to eliminate but it's for the better.<br><br><br><br>
I do know that it is disputed on the internet that Canola oil is safe for human consumption but I'd rather be safe than sorry.
 

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Perhaps you'd better stop eating all soya products too then, since some sites on the Internet say that soya is so terrible for you. Oh wait, perhaps you should stop being vegetarian or vegan altogether, since there are some sites that say you need to eat animal flesh to stay healthy. Sorry for the sarcasm, but sometimes it is important to be a little skeptical to things that one reads on the Internet.<br><br><br><br>
From the article:<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">It [canola] is genetically engineered rapeseed.</div>
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Not true. It was created by cross-breeding different strains of rapeseed.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Rapeseed is a lubricating oil used by small industry. It has never been meant for human consumption.</div>
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I wonder what else in this world they think were not "meant" to be.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">It is derived from the mustard family and is considered a toxic and poisonous weed, which when processed, becomes rancid very quickly.</div>
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"Processed", meaning what?<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">It is very inexpensive to grow and harvest. Insects won't eat it.</div>
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And how is this an argument against canola oil?<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Some typical and possible side effects include loss of vision, disruption of the central nervous system, respiratory illness, anemia, constipation, increased incidence of heart disease and cancer, low birth weights in infants and irritability.</div>
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Total BS. If that was true, it would never be on the market.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Generally rapeseed has a cumulative effect, taking almost 10 years before symptoms begin to manifest. It has a tendency to inhibit proper metabolism of foods and prohibits normal enzyme function. Canola is a Trans Fatty Acid, which has shown to have a direct link to cancer. These Trans Fatty acids are labeled as hydrogenated or partially hydrogenated oils. Avoid all of them!</div>
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Wrong. Regular canola oil does not contain trans fatty acids.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">According to John Thomas' book, Young Again, 12 years ago in England and Europe, rape seed was fed to cows, pigs and sheep who later went blind and began attacking people. There were no further attacks after the rape seed was eliminated from their diet.</div>
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A-ha... Let me make one thing clear: All canola oils are rapeseed oils, but not all rapeseed oils are canola oil. The kind of canola oil or rapeseed oil sold for human consumption has been modified (through cross-breeding, not GM) to make it suitable for humans.<br><br><br><br>
Also, the fact that a food is harmful to animals does not mean that it is harmful to humans, and a food that is harmful to humans is not necessarily harmful to (all) animals. I think many of those opposed to animal testing will agree to this.<br><br><br><br>
Canola oil / rapeseed oil for human consumption contains a favourable ratio of omega-3 to omega-6. It makes a very good salad oil, but should not be heated. (I'd think sprinkling on top of food that has already been cooked is fine.)
 

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I really dont see why youre so quick to cast aspersions on the author of that article, Indian Summer. Didnt you take a look at the home page? It contains all sorts of valuable and exciting information. I never realized that aspartame and the Sabin polio vaccine were responsible for thousands of deaths throughout the world! Or that galactic overlords from the lost continent of Atlantis are creating crop circles with their spaceships! How could I have been so blind? You really need to pull your head out and try to harmonize your feng shui with the cosmic ether, Indian Summer. It will do you a world of good.
 

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Heheheheh. I agree, if I had researched the site more, my mind would have been more in tune with the cosmic heart beat and ready to grasp the profound truths revealed to us in this utterly valuable article. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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Most non-organic canola is genetically modified (Roundup Ready, i.e. liberally doused with herbicides) and the high heat of processing can cause the oil to become rancid, meaning it has to be further processed to remove the odor. However, if you're buying organic, expeller-pressed canola those are non-issues. I buy the Spectrum brand.
 

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I think you are probably right about that, actually. I stick to cold-pressed and preferrably organic brands myself. (ETA: As for GM: Wikipedia says 75% of canola crops planted in planted in Alberta, Manitoba and Saskatchewan are GM. In the EU countries all GM foods have to be labelled as such, so they are easier to avoid and I believe also less common.)<br><br><br><br>
Here's the canola/rapeseed myth discussed on snopes.com:<br><br><a href="http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/canola.asp" target="_blank">http://www.snopes.com/medical/toxins/canola.asp</a>
 

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Well, maybe there is a kernel of useful information to be gleaned from all this. Am I to understand from the snopes.com piece that deep frying with canola may not be the best idea? I’ll have to read it again a little more carefully and see if I can find also any supplemental information. At the very least, since it’s supposedly a drying oil it should be varnishing the inside of my frying vessel. But it doesn’t even seem to be doing that, so I dunno. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:"> If I find anything of interest I’ll post it up.
 

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Why don't you just switch to Olive Oil <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Sirene</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Why don't you just switch to Olive Oil <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"></div>
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that would probably be the best option. i use olive oil exclusively now for EVERYTHING
 

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I wasn't looking to get such a bitter response as I got from Indian Summer and I must say there are better ways to respond to post instead of the manner that you chose. I'm not gulable and don't believe the first thing I hear or read. I do my research and I've read the issue regarding canola oil in books as well as on the internet. I choose to believe it. I have switched to olive oil. I have stopped buying my soy products that contain canola oil. Maybe it isn't true BUT I would rather not buy it just in case it is true. I don't trust the government or the FDA at all.<br><br><br><br>
I originally posted my message regarding the canola to see if others know more and maybe they would offer more info or if they haven't at least they are made aware to the possible effects of Canola.<br><br><br><br>
I don't know why you are so quick to snap at my post but I never imagined to receive such a response as yours. How unfortunate because I actually thought I was going to like this board and somehow it sucks that you put a damper on it.
 

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that would probably be the best option. i use olive oil exclusively now for EVERYTHING</div>
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Can you deep fry with it? It seems to me that doing so would impart strong off-flavors to delicate things such as tempura batters. Also, wouldn't it be prohibitively expensive?
 

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If an article doesn't provide references or at least information as to who conducted a study, skip it. As Indian Summer has already pointed out, the logic in this particular piece is simply appalling in addition to factual errors.<br><br><br><br>
Search for canola and scrapie on pubmed.gov and you won't get a single hit. Mustard gas is not plant derived, but even if it was, it would be irrelevant unless canola oil actually contained it. As for "Pascal's wager goes food": Fear, as opposed to hard evidence (which I've yet to see presented for this case) is a bad counselor.
 

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Can you deep fry with it? It seems to me that doing so would impart strong off-flavors to delicate things such as tempura batters. Also, wouldn't it be prohibitively expensive?</div>
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I dislike olive oil for deep frying. Olive oil is great for so many things but i'ts just not good for that. Sunflower or safflower oil is very good for frying and excellent for things that need a more delicate flavoured oil.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Glittervel</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I wasn't looking to get such a bitter response as I got from Indian Summer and I must say there are better ways to respond to post instead of the manner that you chose. I'm not gulable and don't believe the first thing I hear or read. I do my research and I've read the issue regarding canola oil in books as well as on the internet. I choose to believe it. I have switched to olive oil. I have stopped buying my soy products that contain canola oil. Maybe it isn't true BUT I would rather not buy it just in case it is true. I don't trust the government or the FDA at all.</div>
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Then I'd suggest that you research more. I (and others) think the page you linked to is a mostly unfounded food scare, and that is what I was trying to express in my previous posts. I do agree that canola oil probably not the best choice in a product if the processing involves heating to any significant degree, but whether it is much worse than many of the other common food oils remains to be seen. And as I already have mentioned, it is still a very good salad oil.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">I don't know why you are so quick to snap at my post but I never imagined to receive such a response as yours. How unfortunate because I actually thought I was going to like this board and somehow it sucks that you put a damper on it.</div>
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I like this board very much too, and this is why I will not sit passively and let it be infected with what I perceive to be hysterical and unfounded food scares. I'm sorry if my post has contributed to lessening your VB experience, though. Welcome to VB, and please don't let this minor disagreement prevent you from enjoying it here.
 

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I just think it is funny that they say it is a member of the mustard family and is therefore poisonous. When did mustard seeds and greens become poisonous?<br><br><br><br>
We use non-GMO/organic canola to saute, pan fry foods you really don't want any oil flavor on. Pancakes, French Toast, etc. Good source of omega-3s.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Glittervel</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I wasn't looking to get such a bitter response as I got from Indian Summer and I must say there are better ways to respond to post instead of the manner that you chose. I'm not gulable and don't believe the first thing I hear or read. I do my research and I've read the issue regarding canola oil in books as well as on the internet. I choose to believe it. I have switched to olive oil. I have stopped buying my soy products that contain canola oil. Maybe it isn't true BUT I would rather not buy it just in case it is true. I don't trust the government or the FDA at all.<br><br><br><br>
I originally posted my message regarding the canola to see if others know more and maybe they would offer more info or if they haven't at least they are made aware to the possible effects of Canola.<br><br><br><br>
I don't know why you are so quick to snap at my post but I never imagined to receive such a response as yours. How unfortunate because I actually thought I was going to like this board and somehow it sucks that you put a damper on it.</div>
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I don't think anyone gave you a bitter response, and no one is snapping at *you*. They're reacting to the article itself and how it's just scare tactics. Why are you taking that so personally? No one says you have to use canola oil, but you really should read that snopes link. The whole canola is bad thing is just an internet urban legend. It's actually really good, it has omega-3's which are great for veg*ns <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 
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