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I have to agree with that, too.

I like that I have the freedom to say "yes" when someone asks for a donation (and it's something I support.) I did a search yesterday for something and it brought up an old thread about a humane society black cat that was painted white, and they were trying to collect $600 to pay off the medical bills. I looked at the date and it was old. But I had instantly thought that if it was current I would have immedately contacted them and given them the balance of what they needed.

I like that when there was that thread about the Grimes lady who was brought up on charges for rescuing that dying dog, and they were collecting funds for her, I was able to go to paypal and give fifty bucks without worrying if I was going to make it til my next paycheck.

Or when I check out at petsmart and they ask if i'd like to donate to a local rescue (which happens to be the rescue I fostered cats for,) I can say to add $10 to my total.

It makes me feel good, so yeah it's not that altruistic. I hate feeling like there's nothing I can do.

Back when I supported PETA, i'd give them some decent donations.

I may not be very active in the things I do, but I'm ok with helping monetarily for those who are all about the activity, but can't back it up with funds. That makes me happy. This way I can be lazy, but still help in a way that's really needed.
 

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i can spend 300 bucks on a corset and another 300 on a sword and a kajillion on dialect and acting lessons so other people can call me a geek. so be it.

money can buy everyone happiness. the question is, what makes a person truely happy? sometimes material things makes people happy, sometimes, being able to give to charity or better themselves.
 

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Oh, plenty of it goes to superficial/material things.

Forgive me if I sounded like some kind of martyr or something. I definitely did not mean to do that.

Hair straightening and laser hair removal = pure selfishness.


Never having to shave again & being permanently smooth = priceless
 

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Yes that is a good point, purr. money allows us to pay for the things that make us happy. like I don't know how happy I would be if I weren't at university right now, now THAT cost me my entire bank account balance. and it lets me pay for my unneccessary kitchen supplies that I use for my cooking-hobby, and lets me buy dinner at the pub etc

But when it comes to things that really matter, I don't know. As it stands, a lot of the things I want in life right now cannot be bought with any amount of money, so it doesn't mean too much to me aside from paying the bills and allowing me to go out occasionally.
 

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Oh, plenty of it goes to superficial/material things.

Forgive me if I sounded like some kind of martyr or something. I definitely did not mean to do that.

Hair straightening and laser hair removal = pure selfishness.


Never having to shave again & being permanently smooth = priceless
see, i don't think that hair removal is all that "superficial". it saves you time (and time is $) and on razors and what not.

it's the differnece between a Hummer and a Econoline van. both carry the same amount of people, but one is more efficient than the other.
 

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Well, having money would allow me to build an art studio/workshop and also purchase all of the equipment and materials that I need. Being able to do all the arts and crafts things that I love makes me happy.
 

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i like being able to say yes when i'm invited out.

i like to be able to say i support myself and i can be on my own. i don't have to mooch off of anyone.
 

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I don't think money is an essential thing for happiness. Some of the happiest people are those who have taken vows of poverty.

I do find that money itself doesn't make me happy, but money can be used in ways that make me happy, like when I can take dance or yoga classes, or buy wonderful foods, or even better, treat other people to wonderful meals or presents.

Money can bring happiness if you allow it to retain it's fluid nature. Money comes in and money goes out.

Attatchement to money can = unhappiness
 

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Nope, but the lack of it can make you miserable, or did I say that before?
I agree.

Because of what my dad did for a living, I grew up knowing a lot of very wealthy people and sadly, only one of those people I would say was truly happy. Although they didn't have financial problems, they just replaced that worry with other worries, mostly emotional.

I had a long-term relationship with a wealthy guy a few years back and although he had everything going for him, he just couldn't stop being tortured and miserable. He'd never worked a real job in his life apart from some modelling in his late teens, and worried about how he would support himself if he ever lost the money somehow. He felt constant guilt over the fact that he'd inherited the money and not earnt it, and was really hurt over the stupid crap people would say to him because they were jealous.

Socialising was hard, he didn't like hanging out with a lot of other rich people because he felt they weren't in contact with the real world, and he couldnt hang out with many ordinary people because they'd end up being sychophantic or stealing stuff from him. He became more and more distrustful and paranoid about people as time went on because he was never sure if his friends liked him or just his cash. He just lost the plot in the end.

My current SO's father is also a wealthy man and he's miserable and lonely too but for different reasons. He came from a very poor background and earned his wealth through hard work. But unfortunately he stepped on so many people to get where he is now that he has almost no friends or family left that are willing to speak to him...whats the point of being rich if you've got no-one to enjoy it with?
 

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Here are some questions to explore:

* What does the phrase "Money can't buy happiness" mean to you?

* Can money buy happiness?

* If so, is there a cut-off point where it no longer makes you happy?
"Money can't buy happiness" to me means that you cannot depend on money to make you happy. There are a lot of things in life that money can never replace. It doesn't matter how much money you have or don't have you need to keep everything in perspective.

Can money buy happiness? I think in some instances it can. Between my husband and I we have about $200.00 a month that is spending money (that includes eating out, extra travel, etc). We have had months where we have had unexpected expenses and haven't been able to spend that on entertainment or what-have-you. We started getting a little depressed about being stuck in the house all of the time. Then we figured out we could go to the library and get any books, magazines, or movies that we wanted (we have a great county library system!). While the money would have been nice and easier there are still things you can do to fill your time and make you happy. I think money can buy you happiness but sometimes the lack of it can make you a little more creative with your time.

The cut off point for me would be when I have no one to share it with or good things to use it for. Like JessicaAlana (and others) pointed out it really matters who you surround yourself with. If I had a lot of money but didn't have my husband I would still be miserable. Also if I had a lot of money and only used it for selfish ventures and didn't donate or help others that would terrible.
 

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Think back and imagine your happiest times, did they involve money?

When I look back, my happiest times overall had nothing to do with money -

Laughing so hard with a close friend you fall down - longing looks from someone special - long hugs from people you love - walking on a trail with the beauty of nature surrounding, hiking through the woods and stumbling upon a serene pond, the feeling of peace after a long time of prayer/worship, the look on someones face when you give them something (ok money here)

sure some things are easier with money, and its very nice to be able to just buy something for someone without having to think if you can afford it - but the saying "the best things in life are free" is completely true.
 

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Yes, money can buy happiness. For example, donate a million to animal shelters around the country and you'll generate quite a lot of happiness.
 

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I don't think, however, that many Hollywood celebrities for example are very happy, even though they have quite a lot of wealth.
 

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Happiness is a state of mind and it is simply not possible to exchange currency for an intangible concept with no physical form or feasible means of delivery. What a question!
 

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My husband used to work for the Brookings Institution (a political think-tank, he didn't do the thinking, he ran the audiovisual) and he saw some economics professors do a big presentation on "The Economics of Happiness". They basically concluded that money does indeed buy happiness but other things make you happy too. And they did a lot of research and math and figured out dollar amounts for non-tangeble things that make people happy. For example, being in a committed relationship gives you the same amount of happiness as x dollars. Having children is worth x dollars. Living in a temperate climate is worth x dollars. And so on and so on.

He had a REALLY hard time stopping himself from laughing during the presentation.
 
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