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Shoot, I didn't realize Pigeon forge was home to Dollywood. Last time I was in the smokies, was around 1968 - many years before dollywood. Gatlinburg was a tiny town. All around it was wildnerness. You could drive for miles and miles without hearing another car. You can drive for an hour without getting a glimpse or the sound of anything human. "Towns" on the map turned out to be 15 small buildings with one of them a general store. Developed residential areas turned out to be 15 houses and 3 pickup trucks on a mountain ridge, on an unpaved road, that ran right up along the edge of a steep mountain, with no shoulder, and no guard rail; on Long Island, every road with anything that could be considered remotely dangerous alongside it, had a guard rail. It made the Catskills appear like urban sprawl, and the Aidairondacks appear like a busy rurual area.
 

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Eclipse "I havn't yet seen anything in Soilmans' post to indicate a real commune, which would also involve some sort of housing for residents. Hiring farm workers/employees does not make a commune."<br><br><br><br>
Even hiring them and providing housing for them, does not make an intentional community. This is quite common today for farm workers, including migrant workers -- and no-one calls them commune. You can see a migrant worker camp reproduced in the Richie Valens story. You can see that the migrant workers work together in a way that has some elements of a commune, but it is not generally considered by them to be a commune.<br><br><br><br>
I am not against the idea of a commune. I just hadn't mentioned it and hadn't decided on it. If someone likes communes that much that they see them where they don't exist that is fine. If you want to contribute to making one where it doesn't exist yet, fine. But if you just want to point, and say hey look, a commune — I can do without that.<br><br><br><br>
One thing at a time. A farm. If someone wants to have a commune with a relationship to the farm, fine, but I cannot be expected to think of too much at once. I am already having trouble just managing the farm.
 

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Shoot, I didn't realize Pigeon forge was home to Dollywood. Last time I was in the smokies, was around 1968 - many years before dollywood. Gatlinburg was a tiny town. All around it was wildnerness. You could drive for miles and miles without hearing another car. You can drive for an hour without getting a glimpse or the sound of anything human. "Towns" on the map turned out to be 15 small buildings with one of them a general store. Developed residential areas turned out to be 15 houses and 3 pickup trucks on a mountain ridge, on an unpaved road, that ran right up along the edge of a steep mountain, with no shoulder, and no guard rail; on Long Island, every road with anything that could be considered remotely dangerous alongside it, had a guard rail. It made the Catskills appear like urban sprawl, and the Aidairondacks appear like a busy rurual area.</div>
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Oh I know, it's insane how fast that area has developed. Even 6 or 7 years ago Pigeon Forge was nothing more than a fallback when all the hotels in Gatlinburg were full. You will not even recognize the place today. The Smokey Mountains are still my favorite vacation destination, but commercialism is encroaching quickly on every side. Townsend, TN (west of gatlinburg, on the north side of the Smokeys) might not be a bad location. It's starting to cater to tourists a bit more (lots of white water rafting and horseback riding places) but for the most part it's still a quiet town with plenty of farm land, even north up towards Maryville.<br><br><br><br>
Just go on to yellowpages.com and look up realtors and call some in that area. They'll be able to find places that fit what you need a lot easier than searching through listings online.
 

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Soilman, I dont know if you have ever seen Acres<br><br><a href="http://www.acresusa.com/magazines/magazine.htm" target="_blank">http://www.acresusa.com/magazines/magazine.htm</a><br><br><br><br>
i dont know much about it, my brother reads it, he has a farm in PA......<br><br>
anyway, maybe there would be some ideas in there<br><br>
good luck!
 

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"Just go on to yellowpages.com and look up realtors and call some in that area. They'll be able to find places that fit what you need a lot easier than searching through listings online."<br><br><br><br>
I guess that is a good idea - get some professional help. However my main investor doesn't want to contribute to their commissions. He figures I have enough time to find property myself, and if I don't know how, he expects me to learn how.
 

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<a href="http://www.realtor.com" target="_blank">www.realtor.com</a><br><br>
has all the mls listings<br><br>
just type in the city and town you are looking in
 

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bonoluvr, realtor.com's headline says "find a home." I am not looking for a home. I am looking for farmland.
 

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bonoluvr, realtor.com's headline says "find a home." I am not looking for a home. I am looking for farmland.</div>
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Yes i realize that.<br><br>
if you plug in the city and state you are interested in, it will give you the option of narrowing it down to FARMS and/or LAND
 

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"if you plug in the city and state you are interested in, it will give you the option of narrowing it down to FARMS and/or LAND"<br><br><br><br>
Thanks. I see that now.
 

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*grumble*<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.realtor.org/libweb.nsf/pages/fg814" target="_blank">http://www.realtor.org/libweb.nsf/pages/fg814</a><br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.idea.iastate.edu/idea/marketplace/ncr43/tax6_7.html" target="_blank">http://www.idea.iastate.edu/idea/mar...43/tax6_7.html</a>
 

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<a href="http://www.landsoftennessee.com/tennessee/index.cfm" target="_blank">http://www.landsoftennessee.com/tennessee/index.cfm</a><br><br><br><br>
I can't url to the acreage page but I went to -Search Tennessee Land for Sale by County- and put in acreage in the search box.<br><br><br><br>
hope this is of interest.
 

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I don't know why Sotally Tober said that about communes. It was as if "commune" is a bad word, and without any further elaboration that followed the comment, it does appear to be an attempt at an insult. Your original post, Soilman, appears to be someone who is probably married (hence, your use of the term "we", which someone else asked about), and who wants to buy land and have an organic farm.<br><br><br><br>
Where or how anyone would get "commune" from that.....I don't know. I would have ignored the post. Too many folks like to just spew out random thoughts without carefully reading or listening or thinking through their mental processes before letting the verbal diarrhea rip.<br><br><br><br>
In any case, you haven't said where you HAVE looked, and so I am wondering whether you've done the obvious searches that people do when they're looking to buy a house. Skipping the real estate agent process, since it's rural, is understandable, but there are hundreds of sites, fsbo, and otherwise, where real estate listings exist. In fact, if you do a search for an area, you'll come up with more responses from sites hoping to help you buy real estate than probably any other type of result. Certainly many have listings of houses, but anyone who lists houses is also likely to have land listings too....if they can get them. Have you gone through some of those, but not found what you're after?
 

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Too many folks like to just spew out random thoughts without carefully reading or listening or thinking through their mental processes before letting the verbal diarrhea rip.<br><br><br></div>
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That made me giggle because that's <i>exactly</i> what this poster just did. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br><br><br>
By the way Soilman, how is it going? Have you found somewhere or are you cooling to the idea?
 

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What I've find is lots and lots of real estate companies selling land in tracts that they have bought and subdivided — in order to make a huge profit simply by subdividing and having the total selling price of all of the division add up to a lot more than the total of the initial large parcel. While they don't say this, it is pretty obvious when you look at the surrounding houses.<br><br><br><br>
I am not looking to grow organically. Just reasonably sustainably.<br><br><br><br>
"how is it going? Have you found somewhere or are you cooling to the idea?"<br><br><br><br>
I love gardening, especially growing my own food, as well as preparing my own food from scratch, but I hate buying things and selling things, especially large expensiv things that I don't have a lot of consumer-knowledge about. Maybe Consumer Reports has an article on buying land? There is a lot involved. You could think you are getting a good deal and later find there is rock too close to the surface, or that the stream you thought you could use for irrigation was getting dumped-in upstream. Or the cost of bringing in electricity is greater than you thought. Or there used to be a factory and they contaminated the soil. Or the last farmer, organic or not, did strange things to the soil, adding huge amounts of sewage sludge polluted with lead.
 

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I don't know why Sotally Tober said that about communes. It was as if "commune" is a bad word, and without any further elaboration that followed the comment, it does appear to be an attempt at an insult. Your original post, Soilman, appears to be someone who is probably married (hence, your use of the term "we", which someone else asked about), and who wants to buy land and have an organic farm.<br><br><br><br>
Where or how anyone would get "commune" from that.....I don't know. I would have ignored the post. Too many folks like to just spew out random thoughts without carefully reading or listening or thinking through their mental processes before letting the verbal diarrhea rip.<br><br><br></div>
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What an idiot. Glad you're banned. Try <a href="http://www.merriam-webster.com" target="_blank">www.merriam-webster.com</a> next time.
 
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