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I was talking to a friend today about something I have happen occasionally and their shock got the hypochondriac in me worried. I used to get these moments as an omnivore probably once or twice a month where I would be thinking about... anything really, and I would have a sudden sense of happiness, calm, sense of right and peacefulness(euphoria is how I describe it), but a really intense feeling. I'd usually stop concentrating on whatever I was doing and try and figure out how I got to that place, as if I could retrace what I was thinking about and be able to get back. It would usually last for about 5-10 seconds then my brain would snap out of it.<br><br>
I don't think I'd had another since going vegan almost a year ago, until today. So I told my friend about it and they were suggesting going to the hospital to have my brain checked out. Now I'm wondering if it is something I should have had checked out a long time ago. So it's got me a little worried since mental conditions bother me more than anything else. Alzheimer's scares me more than anything on the planet. Just the thought of loosing my stability <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br>
I'll be back in Ontario in a couple of months where I can get free healthcare, but I'm wondering if it would be worth the few hundred dollars to have it looked into out here. Since this is the largest network of people I have access to, I was wondering if there are others that have the same thing. I don't know why a change in diet would have effected it, but that's been the most significant change in my life the past year. I've looked all over google and can't seem to find anything. I don't take any prescription medications or recreational drugs, either. Any ideas?
 

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Medical help for feeling happy? Get serious.
 

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It's not "feeling happy". Hard to explain. But thanks for your post. I can see where you get your compassion from <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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That sounds like something spiritual to me. I have had that feeling before, but it is rare for me. I sometimes will have dreams at night that tell me everything will be okay, and I wake up believing it.<br><br>
Has anything else in your life changed around the same time you turned vegan?<br><br>
The one idea that springs to mind for me is mindfulness meditation. There are programs available in ontario that are free so long as it is a doctor running the workshop. I am not sure if it would fix your problem or not though.
 

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That sounds like something spiritual to me. I have had that feeling before, but it is rare for me. I sometimes will have dreams at night that tell me everything will be okay, and I wake up believing it.<br><br>
Has anything else in your life changed around the same time you turned vegan?<br><br>
The one idea that springs to mind for me is mindfulness meditation. There are programs available in ontario that are free so long as it is a doctor running the workshop. I am not sure if it would fix your problem or not though.</div>
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I became vegan, started travelling a bit. I thought maybe they had stopped because with all the research you do when becoming vegetarian, you learn that the world isn't a happy and peaceful place. But I figured it was something normal that everyone experienced, so it kinda creeped me out when my friend started talking about seizures... Now I'm wondering why it would start again, because nothing's changed in the past 5 or 6 months. Just trying to get an idea of how many others might have the same thing so I wont stay up till 2am worrying about it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br>
I could look into the meditation. There seems to be a program in Edmonton, so I'm sure London or Toronto would have something similar <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Thanks for not criticizing me.
 

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I know exactly what you're talking about. I've noticed that it happens more when I've been feeling depressed or down for a while... I'll get a random, unexpected feeling JUST like you described and only lasting for about 5 seconds and then I feel normal again. I never put any thought into it until I read your post. But I definitely don't think you need to seek medical treatment haha.
 

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it doesn't sound like it's causing any interruption to your normal brain function so why worry about it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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If I'm understanding your description correctly, it used to happen to me when I was younger. Mostly 3rd grade. Who knows why, but nothing bad every came of it. Unless it gets more frequent/severe, I wouldn't worry too much. The worst I can think of it being is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absence_seizure" target="_blank">absence seizures</a>.
 

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I was talking to a friend today about something I have happen occasionally and their shock got the hypochondriac in me worried. I used to get these moments as an omnivore probably once or twice a month where I would be thinking about... anything really, and I would have a sudden sense of happiness, calm, sense of right and peacefulness(euphoria is how I describe it), but a really intense feeling. I'd usually stop concentrating on whatever I was doing and try and figure out how I got to that place, as if I could retrace what I was thinking about and be able to get back. It would usually last for about 5-10 seconds then my brain would snap out of it.<br><br>
I don't think I'd had another since going vegan almost a year ago, until today. So I told my friend about it and they were suggesting going to the hospital to have my brain checked out. Now I'm wondering if it is something I should have had checked out a long time ago. So it's got me a little worried since mental conditions bother me more than anything else. Alzheimer's scares me more than anything on the planet. Just the thought of loosing my stability <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br>
I'll be back in Ontario in a couple of months where I can get free healthcare, but I'm wondering if it would be worth the few hundred dollars to have it looked into out here. Since this is the largest network of people I have access to, I was wondering if there are others that have the same thing. I don't know why a change in diet would have effected it, but that's been the most significant change in my life the past year. I've looked all over google and can't seem to find anything. I don't take any prescription medications or recreational drugs, either. Any ideas?</div>
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If it helps with your decision, anything that amorphous wouldn't be diagnosed for a few hundred dollars here in the States. We'd be talking thousands just for some basic tests, and then the probability is nothing would be found. (Assuming a docotr takes it seriously in the first place.)
 

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I've had several experiences that sound like what you're describing. The one that was the most powerful was quite awhile ago, like maybe a couple of years ago(?). I was into Buddhism at the time, and so I did quite a bit of meditating and was reading about Buddhist philosophy. The time this happened I wasn't meditating per se, though; I think I'd just finished working out, and was stretching, and I remember I was listening to Jon Hopkins, which is this really mellow ambient stuff. It's hard to describe, but it was <i>incredible</i>. I think soon after I ended up learning about the jhanas, or maybe I knew about them beforehand (can't remember), and thought that the description of the first jhana described what I'd experienced quite well. If you end up looking into this, don't be put off by all the jargon. It also has nothing to do with being Buddhist, or even being spiritual; it's just something that can happen to anyone, if you're in a certain state of mind.<br><br>
I'm trying to remember what it felt like, but it's really hard to capture in words. It was this sense of physical and emotional wellbeing and pleasure (euphoria's probably the best word, as you put it), of everything being okay and that no matter what happened, I would be okay and everything would be okay. I felt... like I could feel the whole universe. Connected to everyone and everything. This doesn't really adequately describe it, but it's the best I can do right now. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:"><br><br>
Ordinarily, I do just what you do. I chase it away with my mind, wondering how to keep feeling that way, overanalyzing it. But this time, for whatever reason, I didn't, and it lasted probably a few minutes, until it gently faded away.<br><br>
I'm no medical expert, obviously, and if you're genuinely worried, then maybe you should go see someone, but I don't think you have anything to be worried about. I've certainly never been worried about these experiences: my reaction was, "Oh, how can I learn to get these more often!?". <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> I don't know if everyone is capable of these sorts of things, and it seems likely that some of us are at least more likely than others to experience these things.<br><br>
I've been reading a bit about how people are wired differently lately, not in connection this sort of thing specifically, but with regards to things like personality, how we experience emotion, etc. I think some people (of which I count myself among) are more prone to these sorts of experiences, to emotional and physical highs and lows, whereas others tend to live more "neutrally". We're just neurologically wired differently, and neither is better than the other. So, yeah, just from what you're telling us anyway, I don't think it's anything you need to be worried about. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Enjoy it when it happens!
 

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Thanks guys <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Sounds a little more common than my friend makes it out to be. I've been doing some research into meditation. I've never actually understood what the purpose was, so I've never tried it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br>
Yeah Kim. It's extremely hard to describe. "A sense of happiness" doesn't really do it justice to someone who may have never experienced it. It's definitely a great experience, just wasn't sure how normal it was <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> Makes me wonder about what Mandyy said about experiencing it while feeling depressed or down. I wasn't in a good mood. I was driving and running over a stressful situation in my head. Maybe it's something your body does when it thinks you need it?(just a theory) Kind of like an adrenaline rush occurs when in a dangerous situation.
 

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I know exactly what you're talking about. I've noticed that it happens more when I've been feeling depressed or down for a while... I'll get a random, unexpected feeling JUST like you described and only lasting for about 5 seconds and then I feel normal again. I never put any thought into it until I read your post. But I definitely don't think you need to seek medical treatment haha.</div>
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Thanks guys <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Sounds a little more common than my friend makes it out to be. I've been doing some research into meditation. I've never actually understood what the purpose was, so I've never tried it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br>
Yeah Kim. It's extremely hard to describe. "A sense of happiness" doesn't really do it justice to someone who may have never experienced it. It's definitely a great experience, just wasn't sure how normal it was <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> Makes me wonder about what Mandyy said about experiencing it while feeling depressed or down. I wasn't in a good mood. I was driving and running over a stressful situation in my head. Maybe it's something your body does when it thinks you need it?(just a theory) Kind of like an adrenaline rush occurs when in a dangerous situation.</div>
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I think there might be something to that theory, I've experienced that feeling too at times when I was feeling particularly down.
 

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I think there might be something to that theory, I've experienced that feeling too at times when I was feeling particularly down.</div>
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I'm going over google trying to find something, maybe a link to an article... Most of it's about substance abuse though.
 

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If you are not experiencing anything else such as memory loss, confusion, twitching, et cetera, there is really little reason to suspect that it is harmful. If it no longer occurs, and did not appear to have any negative affect on your life, there is even less reason to suspect so.<br><br>
If it were something like a tumor, it would've likely gotten worse--unless it was benign, but then the problem would likely have persisted. If it was some sort of wasting disease like Alzheimer's or neurosyphilis, it would've progressed by now and other symptoms would appear. It is possible it was related to seizure activity, but does not seem like it was detrimental at the time, nor did it persist, nor do you appear to have symptoms now, nor, I suspect, a history of seizures, so I would assume that any worry is highly irrational.<br><br>
EDIT: I misread what you said. Although some of my points still stand. It doesn't sound like anything that I've read about, and I'm a complete hypochondriac--so I have pretty much assumed I've had everything at one point or another. You can get it checked out, but I wouldn't stress. It's unlikely you'll be recommended an MRI or anything, but they could screen you for seizure activity.
 

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I wasn't in a good mood. I was driving and running over a stressful situation in my head. Maybe it's something your body does when it thinks you need it?(just a theory) Kind of like an adrenaline rush occurs when in a dangerous situation.</div>
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Definitely sounds plausible. It's not something I know much about, but I know that there's some weird connection between pleasure and pain and endorphins. Most people know about endorphins causing pleasure, and pleasure causing the release of more endorphins, and so on, but I think I read somewhere that pain also increases endorphins. That doesn't seem to be self-sustaining, though, because endorphins reduce the amount of pain felt, which would then reduce the amount of endorphins released, I think... which would be consistent with a feeling not lasting very long.<br><br>
And, hey, if you need someone to talk to, feel free to PM me. Not only am I a decent stalker, I can also be a pretty good friend. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Definitely sounds plausible. It's not something I know much about, but I know that there's some weird connection between pleasure and pain and endorphins. Most people know about endorphins causing pleasure, and pleasure causing the release of more endorphins, and so on, but I think I read somewhere that pain also increases endorphins. That doesn't seem to be self-sustaining, though, because endorphins reduce the amount of pain felt, which would then reduce the amount of endorphins released, I think... which would be consistent with a feeling not lasting very long.<br><br>
And, hey, if you need someone to talk to, feel free to PM me. Not only am I a decent stalker, I can also be a pretty good friend. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"></div>
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Everything's good now, but if I ever need cheering up I'll just read over all your posts I have stored on my computer <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Just copying and cataloging them all keeps me busy for an hour or two a day <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"> Lol, thanks Kim.<br><br>
That's what I was wondering about. Maybe it's not so much a state of mind, but a chemical reaction. It's great, because the 5 seconds of bliss puts you in a slightly better mood for the rest of the day <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> So long as it's not damaging my brain, I'm okay with it.
 

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Everything's good now, but if I ever need cheering up I'll just read over all your posts I have stored on my computer <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> Just copying and cataloging them all keeps me busy for an hour or two a day <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"> Lol, thanks Kim.</div>
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Careful, now, or we might get scolded here, too. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br>
Also, I think our fellow VB members might change their minds and think you need to see a doctor after all. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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That's what I was wondering about. Maybe it's not so much a state of mind, but a chemical reaction. It's great, because the 5 seconds of bliss puts you in a slightly better mood for the rest of the day <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> So long as it's not damaging my brain, I'm okay with it.</div>
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Is a state of mind not determined by chemical reactions? * the determinist atheist asks the Christian, who presumably believes in souls and free will *
 

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Careful, now, or we might get scolded here, too. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br>
Also, I think our fellow VB members might change their minds and think you need to see a doctor after all. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br>
Is a state of mind not determined by chemical reactions? * the determinist atheist asks the Christian, who presumably believes in souls and free will *</div>
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Lol. Don't piss off Ann, though. She has a way of making people disappear. 531 didn't even see what was coming <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> Lol. I like the idea of a site where we can properly discuss any topic, but I like the social aspect of forums aswell. Maybe see how much traffic that new forum gets. And there's no doubt in my mind that I need a doctor, I just havent determined what kind yet <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br>
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<p><span style="font-size:medium;"><span style="font-family:calibri;">I have had those moments…They don’t happen often. One time, I awoke at 3 am in the morning filled with joy. I was so euphoric that I almost couldn’t go back to sleep.  A couple of months later, again, I awoke filled with joy. When I got back to sleep, I could feel the joy within me while I was sleeping.  A week ago this happened to me on a Saturday. Most of the day I was filled with joy. It finally left me about 8 hours later.  Five years ago my wife died and a few months after that horrific event,  my house was nearly destroyed by a hurricane, while I was inside. This gave me humility and wisdom and made me very religious person.</span></span></p>
 
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