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So i finally had my little baby - last Wednesday - hooray! So she's 10 days old now, and Breastfeeding has been working like a dream - thankfully. But the little lady seems to have some gas. I'm not sure. The symptoms seem to lie somewhere between Gas and Reflux, and I was wondering if anyone could explain how to tell the difference; also what to do. Could Soy be causing the gas?<br><br><br><br>
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So i finally had my little baby - last Wednesday - hooray! So she's 10 days old now, and Breastfeeding has been working like a dream - thankfully. But the little lady seems to have some gas. I'm not sure. The symptoms seem to lie somewhere between Gas and Reflux, and I was wondering if anyone could explain how to tell the difference; also what to do. Could Soy be causing the gas?<br><br><br><br>
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Do you mean soy that you are eating? She is only getting breast milk, right? (I have zero experience with this but wanted to clarify that for anyone else who may be able to give you advice.<br><br>
And congratulations!
 

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are you massaging her yet? I would reccommend the waterwheel technique works on mine. if you're eating dairy that could cause gas in the little one. not too sure about soy though.
 

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Yes - soy that I am eating, not her - she only gets mamamilk - and does she ever love it! I don't know - I don't really eat any dairy. Also, no I have not been massaging her, and I don't really know much about it - could you explain the waterwheel technique? Or maybe it's too hard here on a forum. Maybe I'll look it up. Thanks!
 

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soy can cause gas and reflux. was a prob with our first..she had gas and reflux. once i got rid of the soy, most of the gas and reflux went away (she has issues with other foods too-soy dairy and eggs are the worst)<br><br>
Umm..we didn't find out in a very nice way that it was reflux and not just gas. Once she started to projectile, that was the only indicator we had. I know when they are a little bigger, they do tend to stick their fingers/hands in their mouth a lot (to the point of gagging themselves) to try and get rid of that which is sitting at the back of their throat. my daughter will still do this every so often. Of all the things that did help (though I know a lot of people don't like them) is we were told a pacifier to help her keep swallowing would help with the flux. It is actually one of the better things that has worked..would rather have used that then the drugs they wanted.<br><br>
we did use gripewater too bc you aren't supposed to use gas drops until after 6mth (which is silly since that is about the time all that colic type stuff goes away.)<br><br>
Good luck! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I think you will need to find out what exactly the problem is. If it is reflux, the problem is at the level of the oesophagus/stomach and you will have vomiting, if it is gas/colic, the problem is more on the intestinal level and there will be irregular stools etc. As your baby grows older, you should be able to understand the problem better (we too thought of reflux at first but I was certain after a couple of weeks that the problem was at a lower level).<br><br><br><br>
If it is reflux, holding your baby upright as much as possible, esp. after meals, should help a bit. Get a baby carrier you feel comfortable with. I have not had this experience myself but I know people who had 2 reflux babies in a row and they said this: medication helps very little actually but gives the parents the feeling they are doing something about it, and after a year it should gradually get better... (seems like a long time, I know !).<br><br><br><br>
If it is *just*gas and colic (which is what my daughter had), and you have a temperamentful baby, the resulting screaming can be just as bad as in reflux but the initial problem is not so painful or spectacular (as in projectile vomiting which often accompanies reflux). However... you will want to find ways to ease the colic. Gripe water and gas drops are not sold out here so we used fennel seed oil (drops on the pacifier). Using a pacifier has indeed been a lifesaver for us. I also gave my baby small quantities (4 oz. a day or so) of organic fennel seed or chamomilla tea once she was 2 months old. I massaged her belly and carried her against me a lot ! What helped to calm her down was going for long walks (used to be the only way to get her to sleep, walking her and taking her for drives !), letting her nap in a baby recliner or car seat, and watching tapes for tiny babies which seemed to have a hynotic effect on her, LOL ! Bathing used to help as well esp. with lavender or calendula oil. If it is gas (don't do this with reflux !), you can also put her belly down across your legs while sitting and massage her back. Gas and colic gradually improve at 10-12 weeks.<br><br><br><br>
My daughter is now 5 years old, but she still has regular tummy pains and is constitutionally constipated. I give her extra olive oil mixed in her food and I used to give her water I had soaked prunes in when she was little... as an infant I have had to give her parafin suppositories a few times when she hadn't pooped in several days and had a hard belly. The digestive sensibility of the colicky child remains, whereas I have heard that reflux does go away completely as the child grows older (though I suspect that these reflux kids do have sensitive stomachs still).
 

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*chuckles* at the description of reflux as "spectacular" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Belly massages have worked wonders for my little charges as well. Also, having them lay across your legs, while bouncing a bit, or patting their backs..anything that relieves the pressure.<br><br><br><br>
Agree though, that it's important to find out if it's gas or reflux. Not only is reflux more painful, but it can cause some long-term damage if left untreated.
 

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Jen dear, I find vomit much more repulsive than poop ! And although I did get projectile pooping sometimes (I swear !) I can assure you it was nothing next to the (luckily very few) episodes of vomiting I have had to clean up... <span style="font-size:small;"><i>** remembers one particularly disgusting moment when daughter spewed choc milk all over the car... on the highway, no way to clean it up right away... eeewww...**</i></span><br><br>
The things us moms talk about... I would never have thought that poop and gas would become such a subject once one has kids !
 

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could be a lot of things. Maybe positioning... an easy fix. try the "football hold" (ask a lactation consultant or pediatrician). my ds was a gassy little guy. I tried every food avoidance to no avail. but, what did work was this... lay baby on his back. hold feet/ankles with each hand and SLOWLY bring them up to his chest. repeat. Gets the gas flowing for sure! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"><br><br><br><br>
congrats on your baby... and on a successful breasfeeding experiance
 

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thanks folks - this all helps a lot. I'm just waiting for my doc to call me back - last night was a HELL of a night. It's so hard to watch her hurt and not be able to do anything.. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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Jen dear, I find vomit much more repulsive than poop ! And although I did get projectile pooping sometimes (I swear !) I can assure you it was nothing next to the (luckily very few) episodes of vomiting I have had to clean up... <span style="font-size:small;"><i>** remembers one particularly disgusting moment when daughter spewed choc milk all over the car... on the highway, no way to clean it up right away... eeewww...**</i></span><br><br>
The things us moms talk about... I would never have thought that poop and gas would become such a subject once one has kids !</div>
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Heh. I'm with you there. Wherever I've taught, that's been the deal with my coworkers..I'll clean up the scary diarrhea, but you've got the puke. I had to do it once, and ended up bailing on my friend/teacher in another room b/c she thought I was going to pass out!<br><br><br><br>
I've longed joked with my sisters that this is going in my wedding vows. Yeah, "love, honor, cherish"...that's all great, but who's going to clean up the barf? A man who'll do that..well, he's a keeper. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 
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