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Before I vent - the article that sparked my anger is here:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...sts-arson.html

Furthermore, a local nude beach here is threatened by similar minded individuals who want to 'develop' the hillside surrounding a beautiful lake with the typical, cookie-cutter, beige siding homes that spread like cancer in this area.

My rant......

I am a nudist. I'm not a pervert, I'm not an exhibitionist, and I am a law abiding tax-paying citizen. But yet, people seem to always want to destroy the places in which we relax and socialize so they can have their capitalistic desire quenched by squashing those of us on the fringes of society so that we will conform. I'm sorry that you think the human body is shameful, I'm sorry if you have an issue with people who can hang out naked without the connotation of sex, and I'm sorry that you are so damn closed minded that you think we don't have rights - when we do. (Yeah, there is the odd pervert, but the regulars usually ensure that they are informed of the etiquette and they typically leave when they realize we've caught on...it's like anywhere else. But for the the most part, the majority of people who are long time nudists typically occupy the beaches and thus, the code is always in play.)

Furthermore, I'm not a fan of kids. I'm happy for people who have them and love them, but I enjoy being on a beach without the sound of children screaming, crying, fighting with their parents, and kicking sand on my blankets and food. I figure this way I can have what I want, and it frees up a spot on the clothed beach for a family who wants it and they can mingle with the other families.

Some of us are mature enough to realize that nudity doesn't automatically mean sex. Also, some of us in this world are self-accepting enough of ourselves and others that we welcome people of all ages and body types to a beach, where we can all relax in harmony with nature and other nudists. How terrible is that?

I am an artist, and occasionally I will paint a nude. Many people appreciate the variety of body types I utilize for my art, and many others respect the artistic nature of my use of nude form. However, the 'body-shamers' have to have their 2 cents in there as well. I've tried to get my art into local art shops, and although they comment on how talented I am, they keep telling me they 'don't want nudes' in their shops. I try to explain to them that if they are a true art connoisseur they will understand that nude art has been around since the time of cavemen, and throughout the renaissance era, and has been continuing for centuries. Why is it so 'offensive' in your shop? why are you so ashamed of our bodies? why is it my art can't be displayed, but yet across the street there is a racy display of the human form in the front window of the sex shop?

There was also a local statue in town, of a naked man holding a briefcase. It didn't last long, the body-shamers kept vandalizing it's penis. Because, no one has ever seen a penis before apparently. There were complaints, and protests, with people eating hot dogs and wearing sweat-shop clothing. Apparently the penis was a bigger cause for concern than the 5 year old who stitched their shoes together or the pig that was tortured to make their hot dog. Funnily enough, they were probably eating ground up penis as we all know that hot-dogs are practically what ends up on the butcher's floor at the end of the shift.

So, the body-shamers are suppressing the genuine non-sexual appreciation of the human form in our society, while the sexualized and unhealthy body images run rampant with no alternative.

If I was wealthy, I would by a beachfront acreage, and then the surrounding hills, so that maybe, possibly, we won't have to deal with people wanting to 'develop' more land and not only displace nudists, but destroy the natural beauty of the area. I guess it's all about the human need to own and control nature.

*Takes a breath*

Rant over, thank you. lol
 

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Wow how horrible! I expected the article would be about protests not arson!! The mayor is an *******. He says the nudists are dysfunctional yet there's nothing wrong with burning down someone's home or property??

I love this gem:

"The developer is currently serving time for drug trafficking but the mayor of Saint-Lin-Laurentides said that's not an issue for him."

Wonderful. He'll welcome drug dealers with open arms but wants to get rid of innocent people who aren't harming anyone?
 

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Wow how horrible! I expected the article would be about protests not arson!! The mayor is an *******. He says the nudists are dysfunctional yet there's nothing wrong with burning down someone's home or property??

I love this gem:

"The developer is currently serving time for drug trafficking but the mayor of Saint-Lin-Laurentides said that's not an issue for him."

Wonderful. He'll welcome drug dealers with open arms but wants to get rid of innocent people who aren't harming anyone?
EXACTLY. For the most part nudists are a pretty peaceful bunch. I've never seen any violence or conflicts on any of the beaches I have been to. The only drugs I have witnessed as well has been weed, but since I live in BC it's a super common thing, as I'm sure it is in Quebec. So it makes me wonder if the developer has the mayor somehow in his back pocket? and they are using the public dislike of nudists to leverage the whole thing?
 

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That is SO effed up.

Also, I feel you so much about your art! Life drawings and the portrayal of the nude body are absolutely essential in the wide spectrum of art, no artist will ever reach any significant skill in depicting and understanding the human body if they've never drawn a nude model. And that people working in freaking art shops are kicking up a fuss over nudes on paintings is so utterly stupid I don't have words.

Seriously, what's wrong with people?
 

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That is SO effed up.

Also, I feel you so much about your art! Life drawings and the portrayal of the nude body are absolutely essential in the wide spectrum of art, no artist will ever reach any significant skill in depicting and understanding the human body if they've never drawn a nude model. And that people working in freaking art shops are kicking up a fuss over nudes on paintings is so utterly stupid I don't have words.

Seriously, what's wrong with people?
Thanks for your understanding
I think the biggest problem is that my town is full of retirees who only want pictures of fruit and orchards or a kid holding a teddy bear or something. Many of them are very conservative Christians who seem to think those of us who are outside of their mould should be made to fit within it. I'm a free spirit, I refuse to be caged by archaic ideas about life. Most artists are this way, but yet, the very people who own these galleries and who are supposed to have a CLUE about the diversity of art don't seem to get it. So for now, I paint, draw, and do my own thing. It's better than being treated like a pornographer.
 

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So it makes me wonder if the developer has the mayor somehow in his back pocket? and they are using the public dislike of nudists to leverage the whole thing?
Most likely.

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I think the biggest problem is that my town is full of retirees who only want pictures of fruit and orchards or a kid holding a teddy bear or something. Many of them are very conservative Christians who seem to think those of us who are outside of their mould should be made to fit within it. I'm a free spirit, I refuse to be caged by archaic ideas about life. Most artists are this way, but yet, the very people who own these galleries and who are supposed to have a CLUE about the diversity of art don't seem to get it. So for now, I paint, draw, and do my own thing. It's better than being treated like a pornographer.
Yeah that's a bad combo right there. Both are so set in their ways and beliefs that they won't even entertain the idea of opening their minds and accepting anyone and anything different is impossible.


Please stay safe.
 

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I was surprised to see this was a Canadian issue. I thought we were more accepting than this.
Good luck with this, is all I have to say, don't let these close minded people bring you down.
 

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I was surprised to see this was a Canadian issue. I thought we were more accepting than this.
Good luck with this, is all I have to say, don't let these close minded people bring you down.
I thought we were as well, but apparently diversity is passé now.
I'm going to just continually find new places to get naked just to irk all the yuppies and their million dollar homes. I may not be wealthy, but I was born free (naked) and equal. I refuse to let the waterfronts in the area be just for the follies of the rich and their loud boats etc.
 

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Yeah that's a bad combo right there. Both are so set in their ways and beliefs that they won't even entertain the idea of opening their minds and accepting anyone and anything different is impossible.


Please stay safe. \t\t\t\t\t\t
Thanks will do. Love the avatar by the way.
 

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thats crazy. very sad that people have this attitude in our time

and i agree about nude art! i could never get what is people's problem with it. it was there forever and there is nothing wrong about it. a couple of years ago a local artist approached me at a festival and said that he likes to do nudist paintings and if i would be ok to pose for him. i am glad i did, in the past 2 years i met him every month and he always made a great painting out of it. nothing perverted or dirty, just beautiful

people need to stop being so prude, they are the disturbing ones!
 

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That is SO effed up.

Also, I feel you so much about your art! Life drawings and the portrayal of the nude body are absolutely essential in the wide spectrum of art, no artist will ever reach any significant skill in depicting and understanding the human body if they've never drawn a nude model. And that people working in freaking art shops are kicking up a fuss over nudes on paintings is so utterly stupid I don't have words.

Seriously, what's wrong with people?

Nude art has been around forever, and some of the most famous and beautiful art is the world is nude.
We can't just take it out of the world. It doesn't work that way.
 

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Just UGH to the whole art thing (actually, UGH to all of it). I'm an artist too, and the anti-nude sentiment seems to be one echoed by people who don't know a damn thing about art. I've painted nudes, and I've modeled nude. There was nothing sexual about it. A body is capable of many things, and sex is only one of them.
 

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I am a Christian Conserative views on modest apperal and I am seeing the concern of them of the children. However, at the same time it don't mean you need to destroy someplace just because you don't like it. I wish people can remind their own business and if you have children and afraid of nudity then you should go some place else. I do believe each beach location should have a section for the nudes to go and adult only area away from children , so they can enjoy themselves. Nothing is wrong with being in the nude these days we live in an Xtreme world and anything goes right now. I think the holier then tho people needs to get the spec out of their own eyes first before judging .
 

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thats crazy. very sad that people have this attitude in our time

and i agree about nude art! i could never get what is people's problem with it. it was there forever and there is nothing wrong about it. a couple of years ago a local artist approached me at a festival and said that he likes to do nudist paintings and if i would be ok to pose for him. i am glad i did, in the past 2 years i met him every month and he always made a great painting out of it. nothing perverted or dirty, just beautiful

people need to stop being so prude, they are the disturbing ones!
That's totally cool
did you get to keep any of them?

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Nude art has been around forever, and some of the most famous and beautiful art is the world is nude.
We can't just take it out of the world. It doesn't work that way.
Precisely....and who are the idiots who are destroying another artist's sculpture? it's not their art! they can't even begin to understand the time and effort.

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Just UGH to the whole art thing (actually, UGH to all of it). I'm an artist too, and the anti-nude sentiment seems to be one echoed by people who don't know a damn thing about art. I've painted nudes, and I've modeled nude. There was nothing sexual about it. A body is capable of many things, and sex is only one of them.
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I am a Christian Conserative views on modest apperal and I am seeing the concern of them of the children. However, at the same time it don't mean you need to destroy someplace just because you don't like it. I wish people can remind their own business and if you have children and afraid of nudity then you should go some place else. I do believe each beach location should have a section for the nudes to go and adult only area away from children , so they can enjoy themselves. Nothing is wrong with being in the nude these days we live in an Xtreme world and anything goes right now. I think the holier then tho people needs to get the spec out of their own eyes first before judging .
The beach where I frequent has a nude and a non-nude area divided by trees. Both groups get along fine, but apparently at the beach mentioned in the article it's not the same everywhere sadly.
 

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That's totally cool
did you get to keep any of them?

Precisely....and who are the idiots who are destroying another artist's sculpture? it's not their art! they can't even begin to understand the time and effort.

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The beach where I frequent has a nude and a non-nude area divided by trees. Both groups get along fine, but apparently at the beach mentioned in the article it's not the same everywhere sadly.
I am sorry to say hear I hope things gets civil soon. Life it too short to worry about these things especially with very hot weather.
 

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I also need to add after we get blinds in our home because our next door neighbor has a 4 year old now. I am going in the nude in my own home I have to go in the natural to have my body breath. Our bodies needs to breath from being covered. In this hot summer months where we live I sleep in the nude and I am proud of it.
I agree with you that families with children needs to have their own beaches and area and people that wants adults only and with no Clothes should have a right no matter where you live.
Yes I am a Christian but not all nudity leads to sex and immorality. We are only human and we need to take care of our bodies and not be shameful.
 

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I also need to add after we get blinds in our home because our next door neighbor has a 4 year old now. I am going in the nude in my own home I have to go in the natural to have my body breath. Our bodies needs to breath from being covered. In this hot summer months where we live I sleep in the nude and I am proud of it.
I agree with you that families with children needs to have their own beaches and area and people that wants adults only and with no Clothes should have a right no matter where you live.
Yes I am a Christian but not all nudity leads to sex and immorality. We are only human and we need to take care of our bodies and not be shameful.
I have to thank you for your refreshing perspective
 

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Are they that offended by naked people? Don't they realize they're naked too, under their clothes?
Exactly. When they shower do they feel freaked out? when they have sex with their partners do they put a hole through the bed sheet? I wonder where the line is drawn here....
 
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