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I have tried being vegan in the past which always resulted in extreme weakness so needless to say I had to go back to eating meat. So, now it has been a couple of years and I am trying again. I am shocked at my body's reaction this time. I have too much energy! You think this is not a problem? Well, it is because it has created insomnia so I have to eat meat in order to get to some kind of sleep.<br>
Each day that I eat vegan, the energy builds. I start out sleeping about 6 hours a night which is fine but then each night I sleep less until I am only sleeping 3 hours a night. That is when I can't take it anymore and I eat a piece of meat to bring my energy down. I find this bizarre. When I am meatless, I feel very light which is nice, I have fewer muscle aches and feel fantastic but I need to be able to get some consistent sleep.<br>
Anyone ever heard of this to this extreme? I need more than 3 hours of sleep at night. Even with 3 hours of sleep my body is still energetic but I still feel an inner fatigue in my head and my emotions are moody because I need sleep. I practice yoga but it doesn't help with this energy problem and being vegan.<br>
I find all this strange.<br>
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<div class="quote-block">Anyone ever heard of this to this extreme?</div>
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have you experimented with trying vegan foods that make help you feel sleepy? some meat has tryptophan which helps to calm and sleep, however potatoes also do this in the same way, maybe grab a potato instead of meat next time.<br>
also maybe you just need to burn that extra energy throughout the day better. yoga is great, but some forms are not very invigorating, try speeding it up and creating a lot of heat. or add another more strenuous activity like biking, running, weight lifting, swimming...even things like digging a hole for a tree, tilling the yard for a garden, washing windows etc can help you burn that extra energy.
 

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I have never heard of such a reaction to meat.<br><br>
If it is biochemically induced, it might be worth it to seek guidance from a doctor. It could be that your severe reactions are a symptom of a chemical imbalance that may need medical attention to control.<br><br>
If it is a case of mind over matter and your subconscious perception of eating meat vs vegan could be causing this reaction, then it might be best to take an open and honest look at your feelings and perceptions of this topic.<br><br>
I have my own gut feeling about this, but do not want to offend or intrude so will only share it if you want to hear it.<br><br>
I will share a story of a similar situation in my life. I had to tell some very loyal and wonderful volunteers that we were no longer able to provide them housing for their services. I had been part of making this decision and consciously supported it as the only possible option at this point. However my subconscious didn't agree or want to do it. For two weeks I had laryngitis and couldn't talk above a whisper. The doctors couldn't find anything wrong with me, except for inflammation and redness of my voicebox. There was no known cause and it was assumed that I had an allergic reaction to something that we couldn't identify. After a week of medications and treatments for the inflammation, I was able to get enough of my voice back to make the dreaded phone calls in a whispered and scratchy voice. The next morning I woke up and could speak normally.
 

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have you experimented with trying vegan foods that make help you feel sleepy? some meat has tryptophan which helps to calm and sleep, however potatoes also do this in the same way, maybe grab a potato instead of meat next time.<br>
also maybe you just need to burn that extra energy throughout the day better. yoga is great, but some forms are not very invigorating, try speeding it up and creating a lot of heat. or add another more strenuous activity like biking, running, weight lifting, swimming...even things like digging a hole for a tree, tilling the yard for a garden, washing windows etc can help you burn that extra energy.</div>
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If this energy continues, I am going to have to do more exercise. I was a low energy type before so yoga was about all I could do. I used to be a walker but became undisciplined with it. Thanks.
 

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I have never heard of such a reaction to meat.<br><br>
If it is biochemically induced, it might be worth it to seek guidance from a doctor. It could be that your severe reactions are a symptom of a chemical imbalance that may need medical attention to control.<br><br>
If it is a case of mind over matter and your subconscious perception of eating meat vs vegan could be causing this reaction, then it might be best to take an open and honest look at your feelings and perceptions of this topic.<br><br>
I have my own gut feeling about this, but do not want to offend or intrude so will only share it if you want to hear it.<br><br>
I will share a story of a similar situation in my life. I had to tell some very loyal and wonderful volunteers that we were no longer able to provide them housing for their services. I had been part of making this decision and consciously supported it as the only possible option at this point. However my subconscious didn't agree or want to do it. For two weeks I had laryngitis and couldn't talk above a whisper. The doctors couldn't find anything wrong with me, except for inflammation and redness of my voicebox. There was no known cause and it was assumed that I had an allergic reaction to something that we couldn't identify. After a week of medications and treatments for the inflammation, I was able to get enough of my voice back to make the dreaded phone calls in a whispered and scratchy voice. The next morning I woke up and could speak normally.</div>
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I believe you are right and there is some kind of biochemical change in my body. I am hoping with time, I can level out. I am interested however in your gut feeling.
 

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I would try eating perhaps heavier veggie foods, pasts and potatoes and such.
 

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I would try eating perhaps heavier veggie foods, pasts and potatoes and such.</div>
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Hi River. I eat quite a bit of pasta but I stay away from potatoes because they cause a problem with blood sugar for me. I appreciate your suggestions!
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>LightSeeker444</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2846451"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Hi River. I eat quite a bit of pasta but I stay away from potatoes because they cause a problem with blood sugar for me. I appreciate your suggestions!</div>
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Rats <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> *thinks thinks thinks* I've heard that seitan may help to tire you out, maybe
 

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Maybe you're not getting enough carbs.<br>
How many days consistently have you been vegan? If you're eating plant-based during day/afternoon adn then eating meat at night, you can't really say that being vegan has done this to you, because you're a meat eater.
 

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I'm ADHD so insomnia/excessive energy have always been a problem for me. Have you tried sleep aids like having a drink before bed, aroma therapy, reading before going to sleep?<br>
What is the feeling like? Are you tossing and turning or unable to turn your thoughts off?
 

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well, other than the obvious health checkups for deficiencies or overabundance and whatnot, you should definitely begin doing more vigorous exercise! And different people need different amounts of sleep! Sure three hours are a little strange, but I've heard of it before (two of my friends, who are twins, only need about three hours of sleep).
 

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I also felt more energetic when I became vegetarian...<br>
but I've always had a mild insomnia, even when I ate meat.<br><br>
My general suggestions would day-time naps (no more than 90 minutes) and walks, and to avoid any sort of screen before going to bed - TV screen, computer screen, phone screen. Give yourself an hour to read. Or, if you have a creative outlet, do that for a while before bed. If I spend a few hours writing before bed, it almost counteracts all the coffee I drink while doing it!
 

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I need more than 3 hours of sleep at night. Even with 3 hours of sleep my body is still energetic but I still feel an inner fatigue in my head and my emotions are moody because I need sleep.</div>
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I posted about this same thing a few weeks ago. I'm actually considering going for blood work to see if it's something other than the diet....I'm so charged up at bedtime that I could run a marathon....sleep for a few hours...same feeling when I wake up. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/broccoli.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":bobo:"><br><br>
The extra energy is awesome....but 3-4 hours sleep a night just isn't cutting it for me. I'm hoping this levels off soon.
 

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I posted about this same thing a few weeks ago. I'm actually considering going for blood work to see if it's something other than the diet....I'm so charged up at bedtime that I could run a marathon....sleep for a few hours...same feeling when I wake up. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/broccoli.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":bobo:"><br><br>
The extra energy is awesome....but 3-4 hours sleep a night just isn't cutting it for me. I'm hoping this levels off soon.</div>
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OMG, Skippy, you know what I am talking about!! I believe we are having some type of chemical reaction. Last night I went to bed at 10:30 PM and woke up at 2:30 AM. I can go a few days like this but then it gets to the point where my brain needs sleep. Also, joint pain and muscle aches kick in when I haven't had much sleep.<br>
I consume no caffeine, not even chocolate because I am sensitive to it.<br>
Hey, keep in touch and let me know how you do.<br><br>
LS
 
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