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It seems that more businesses are getting on the no-young-children bandwagon.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">"Call me a grinch, a misanthrope, a DINK (dual-income-no-kids), or the anti-cute-police, but I hate (hate a thousand times over) <b>ill-behaved children/infants/screaming banshees</b> in upscale restaurants (ok, anywhere, really, but I dont want any death threats)," writes Charlotte Savino on <a href="http://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-blog/carry-on/2010/3/4/child-free-dining-the-blissfully-silent-trend" target="_blank"><span style="color:#19538F;">Travel and Leisure's blog</span></a>. She lists a slew of a popular <a href="http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/parenting/message-to-parents-getting-louder-no-screaming-babies-allowed-2388887" target="_blank"><span style="color:#19538F;">destination restaurants</span></a> with kid-free areas and policies for travelers looking for quiet vacation dining.<br><br></div>
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Emphasis mine. I just wanted to make the point that I don't think people are against chilren; just the ill-behaved ones.<br><br>
The other day I ended up in Quick Care with a migraine that needed, desperately, to be treated by a health practitioner. The whole time, a woman, with a screaming banshee, refused to properly care for him. He was not sick, he was bored and tired of being stuck in his stoller.<br><br><a href="http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/parenting/the-no-kids-allowed-movement-is-spreading-2516110/" target="_blank">http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/paren...ading-2516110/</a>
 

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It's parents who refuse to discipline their kids that have caused this. It's too bad it affects the parents of well-behaved kids as well. There are still way more family-friendly places than no-kids places though, so I don't buy the whining about "discrimintation." I guess people are getting tired of looking the other way because "He's just a kid! That's what kids do!" My dogs are just dogs and don't know better either but I don't allow them to invade dog-inappropriate places.
 

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It's a trend and will pass. I get the feeling that children will be around for a while.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>unovegan</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2951171"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
It's a trend and will pass. I get the feeling that children will be around for a while.</div>
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Not if we start spaying and neutering our offspring like responsible adults.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Snowcone</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2951178"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Not if we start spaying and neutering our offspring like responsible adults.</div>
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true this.
 

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Not if we start spaying and neutering our offspring like responsible adults.</div>
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*Hits "like" button." (Wait a minute, where's the "like" button?)
 

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It's a trend and will pass. I get the feeling that children will be around for a while.</div>
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No one said they won't or shouldn't be around. I don't care if people have kids. Just don't inflict them on everyone else if they act liked cracked out howler monkeys.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Wolfie</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2951168"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
It's parents who refuse to discipline their kids that have caused this. It's too bad it affects the parents of well-behaved kids as well. There are still way more family-friendly places than no-kids places though, so I don't buy the whining about "discrimintation." I guess people are getting tired of looking the other way because "He's just a kid! That's what kids do!" My dogs are just dogs and don't know better either but I don't allow them to invade dog-inappropriate places.</div>
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Not if we start spaying and neutering our offspring like responsible adults.</div>
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can't we spay and neuter the adults instead? i'd really enjoy that....
 

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can't we spay and neuter the adults instead? i'd really enjoy that....</div>
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I second, and I move that we begin with the juggalos.
 

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It's a trend and will pass. I get the feeling that children will be around for a while.</div>
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can't we spay and neuter the adults instead? i'd really enjoy that....</div>
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If I owned a restaurant, I would definitely have a "No screaming children" policy. And I wouldn't be hesitant to tell parents to make their kids sit down, shut up, and stop bothering other customers. It's insanely inconsiderate and rude on the part of the parents to let their bratty kids ruin everyone else's meal.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>RabbitLuvr</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2951500"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:"> I would eat there.</div>
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I would regularly eat at any restaurant that did that.<br><br>
I hope that parents are finally hearing the message loud and clear: Your bratty kids are not cute and charming, and we're sick of putting up with them.
 

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So you only hate the kids who are disruptive, but you support bans on ALL kids.<br>
And parents or other childcare providers/ care-givers shouldn't be offended because clearly our kids are not cute or charming; they're just brats.<br>
Got it.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>ElaineV</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2951775"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
So you only hate the kids who are disruptive, but you support bans on ALL kids.<br>
And parents or other childcare providers/ care-givers shouldn't be offended because clearly our kids are not cute or charming; they're just brats.<br>
Got it.</div>
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Way to put words in my mouth.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>sequoia</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2951485"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
If I owned a restaurant, I would definitely have a "No <i><b>screaming</b></i> children" policy. And I wouldn't be hesitant to tell parents to make their kids sit down, shut up, and stop bothering other customers. It's insanely inconsiderate and rude on the part of the parents to let their bratty kids ruin everyone else's meal.</div>
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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>sequoia</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2951505"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I would regularly eat at any restaurant that did that.<br><br>
I hope that parents are finally hearing the message loud and clear: Your <b><i>bratty</i></b> kids are not cute and charming, and we're sick of putting up with them.</div>
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(I bolded and italicized to support my post below)<br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>ElaineV</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2951775"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
So you only hate the kids who are disruptive, but you support bans on ALL kids.<br>
And parents or other childcare providers/ care-givers shouldn't be offended because clearly our kids are not cute or charming; they're just brats.<br>
Got it.</div>
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I read what sequoia said to mean she supports bans on <i>disruptive</i> children, as in, restaurants should actually stand up to parents with disruptive children, not that all children should be banned.<br><br><br>
I personally agree with a "no screaming children policy". Sometimes kids have off days, when they're sick or tired or hungry or whatever it is that day that causes them to act out, but parents need to be responsible, too. With my siblings and I, if any of us were disruptive in a restaurant at all as young children, she'd take whichever one of us it was being disruptive out of the restaurant while the rest of the group finished their meal, and if the child calmed down before the rest of the group was done with the meal, then she'd bring the child back inside when she was sure they wouldn't be disruptive.<br><br>
And for parents going to very fancy restaurants they need to make sure their children are on their best behavior more than ever, and if the child still acts out they need to take responsibility and excuse themselves and the child. If they have a child that acts out often in restaurants, from having to sit still for too long or whatever the reason is, then I don't think they should take their child to restaurants except for completely kid friendly ones like John's Incredible Pizza Company or something like that where there's accommodation for children that don't like to be in restaurants so they can walk around or watch TV if they get bored.
 

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(I bolded and italicized to support my post below)<br><br><br><br><br>
I read what sequoia said to mean she supports bans on <i>disruptive</i> children, as in, restaurants should actually stand up to parents with disruptive children, not that all children should be bad.</div>
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Thank you for actually reading what I wrote. That is exactly what I meant.
 

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Ive spent a lot of time of late in cafes surrounded by various screaming children, and parents trying to get a break.<br><br>
One shopping mall I go to, the cafe I like to go to is right next to a childrens clothing store, and there is the mall creche there too, so I end up with them all over the place while I am trying to relax and read a magazine.<br><br>
The strange thing is that after a while I cease to notice them screaming and running everywhere. i think that must happen with parents, they get so used to all the screaming and the running that they dont really react to it, but if they bring their children near people that dont have them, they perhaps dont understand how annoying their child is being to others.
 
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