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I work for a charity, and part of my job is arranging insurance for people. I just found out that one of the main insurance companies we use are a major shareholder in a company who are a big customer of HLS :-(<br><br>
I have absolutely no bearing over which insurance companies are used, there's nothign at all I can do to change that. It just sucks.<br><br>
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I don't really know why I posted this. I'm just feeling a bit sorry for myself I suppose.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hug:"> That is a sucky situation. I think nearly all companies have some unethical practices, even charities. It is fairly inevitable in the business world. It does suck, but we gotta do what we gotta do... especially in an employer's market <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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Urgh, I feel for you.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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*feels out of the loop*
 

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HLS is Huntingdon Life Sciences, who test on animals.<br><br>
Not sure if that's why you feel out of loop, just taking a guess <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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Yes it was, I didn't know the abbreviation.<br><br>
Sorry, goldman <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> These things suck.
 

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Thanks, guys. It's just all an arse, really. I wouldn't let my money be used for this sort of thing, but I'm letting my time be used, which has to be just as bad. Bah! I;ve refused jobs before after finding out nasty things about the company, but it seems some ******* will always sneak up on you and make you complicit in their actions.<br><br>
On the upside, I haven;t been able to sleep for a week (completely unrelated) and I appear to have gone deaf in one ear. So you can see this week's a good un.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> Rubbish you should go to the Drs about that goldman_dancing. I went deaf in one ear once but it just needed syringing so it might be something simple like that.<br><br>
Things like your OP are really annoying, especially it's hard to be consistant or work out where to draw a line. I know I wouldn't work as a animal tester, and I know I would work in a chemist even if they sold things tested on animals, but somewhere inbetween it gets confusing. I think I'd try not to fret too much, as there are very very very few ethically squeaky clean jobs out there.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Identity_thief</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2938067"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> Rubbish you should go to the Drs about that goldman_dancing. I went deaf in one ear once but it just needed syringing so it might be something simple like that.<br><br>
Things like your OP are really annoying, especially it's hard to be consistant or work out where to draw a line. I know I wouldn't work as a animal tester, and I know I would work in a chemist even if they sold things tested on animals, but somewhere inbetween it gets confusing. I think I'd try not to fret too much, as <b>there are very very very few ethically squeaky clean jobs out there.</b></div>
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I'd say there aren't any. It's pretty sad, really.
 

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I'd say there aren't any. It's pretty sad, really.</div>
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Plenty of self-employed choices, I'd say. Unfortunately, I have no saleable skills and have to take what I can get from the seas of mediocrity and non-specific pen-pushing for employment <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/undecided.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":-/"><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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Rubbish you should go to the Drs about that goldman_dancing. I went deaf in one ear once but it just needed syringing so it might be something simple like that.</div>
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I don't have a GP. Well, I'm probably still on the books at the last place, but it's a 2 hour bus journey.. I'm just gonna sit it out. It'll either get better by itself, or it'll get worse and I'll have to *actually* do something like get on a sodding bus or sign up for a new GP. Or perhaps go to the drop-in centre down the street. Drop-in centres, for drop-outs like me <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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What about a walk-in clinic? Theres probably one near you and they can deal with minor stuff when you can't get to a GP.<br><br>
I'd agree that theres very few ethically sound jobs, depending on how far you look into it. Like say if youre self employed, would you then refuse to take jobs from certain people? I mean my dad's a self employed decorator - if he decided to go all ethical he could decide to only use vegan paint and brushes and wallpaper paste etc. but then would he have to vet each client to make sure that they dont have shares in a dodgy company, or make sure they dont work for a company he doesnt agree with? He'd end up with no clients. fair enough saying no to Hitler, but cant get too fussy haha.<br><br>
Its not like youre working FOR HLS, I wouldnt sweat it. You work for a charity, who use an insurance company, who have a shareholder, who use HLS. Thats like 4 degrees of seperation!
 

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Plenty of self-employed choices, I'd say. Unfortunately, I have no saleable skills and have to take what I can get from the seas of mediocrity and non-specific pen-pushing for employment <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/undecided.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":-/"></div>
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When you work for yourself you still use resources and have customers/clients. There will always be something somewhere that is a tad unethical.
 

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I don't have a GP. Well, I'm probably still on the books at the last place, but it's a 2 hour bus journey.. I'm just gonna sit it out. It'll either get better by itself, or it'll get worse and I'll have to *actually* do something like get on a sodding bus or sign up for a new GP. Or perhaps go to the drop-in centre down the street. Drop-in centres, for drop-outs like me <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"></div>
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Aw well I hope it gets better not worse then, you could also try a pharmacy as some of them have people to help you with minor problems - I know boots do.<br><br>
I want to be a vegan food tester <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"> ethical and the most awesome job ever, except I'm not sure it exists. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":(">
 

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Taking money from someone has to be better than giving money to them though, right? ie being paid by mr meatface for painting his living room is better than taking out shares in vivisect & co.<br><br>
I know som epeopel who have a vegan co-op catering firm. I'd say that's pretty spot-on, ethically. Ummmmmmmm, I know some people who have their own t-shirt printing place and they inly use water-based inks and ethically traded cotton, that's cool too. I can't imagine them ever pringing shirts for Screwdriver or anything..
 
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