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Hey everyone!

I debated posting this for a bit, but it's getting to the point where I'm considering going to the doctor if it persists.

My first month of being vegan was a dream. I went vegan overnight and I felt so energetic and so lean and so happy, I wasn't even intending to stay vegan beyond my 2 week self challenge, but I was absolutely hooked.

Then, about a week and a half ago, I started getting severely bloated, and I don't mean just a little bloat, I mean like, 5lbs up and painfully bloated. Now I'm so backed up I've only been able to have like one small bowel movement in the last week, despite taking a tbsp of milk of magnesia yesterday to no avail.

I'm really frustrated and really in pain, and I don't know what changed between the first month and now. I was reading it could be from the increase in fiber (I average about 50-60g a day, way more than the 20g or so I was having before I made the change) and I was thinking maybe I just needed to up my water intake but that hasn't really helped either.

Did anyone else experience something like this when transitioning?
 

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Now I'm so backed up I've only been able to have like one small bowel movement in the last week, despite taking a tbsp of milk of magnesia yesterday to no avail.
This is not typical. If you only had one small bowel movement for the entire week, and you've been eating full meals, then something is not right.

See your doctor.
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I am rarely constipated as a vegan, but the few times I have experienced horrid bloat and constipation as a vegan, it was usually one of two reasons (or both):

restricting calories too much

going too low in fat

Ground flaxseeds work wonders in getting things moving for me, and a serving or two of almonds or chia seeds or some other nut/seed each day keeps me more lubricated, along with all the fiber I get from beans, fruits and vegetables, and whole grains.

Also, drinking enough liquid is very important, especially with increased fiber.

However, as David said, we can't assume this is diet related. One bowel movement a week is indeed very abnormal and worth visiting your doctor. I used to get like that many years ago when I was on an antidepressant that dried out my system and slowed things down. I was really miserable and nothing helped until I went off it. I am also very sensitive to supplements and some can cause the same effect (such as calcium pills).

I did not experience constipation when I transitioned (overnight). In fact my digestion became much better without having to work so hard to digest meat. Things move faster and smoother. I used to get awful cramps, pain, and diarrhea with most dairy so avoided it for years but would consume Greek yogurt regularly which was the only dairy product I could tolerate. It did slow me down some. One time I went all raw for several weeks and was pooping five to ten times a day lol. It was too much too fast. I went through a period of starving myself (both as an omni and at one point as a vegan) and lost a lot of weight and at that time I was sometimes constipated, though surprisingly as a vegan still not too bad. I have hypothyroidism that can cause bowel changes when my levels veer off but it's usually gradual.
 

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David3 is right - see your doctor.

If you also have a pain under your right side ribs to your breast bone could be irritable bowl syndrome. Needs a doctor to be sure what the problem is.
 
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Yes, I have definitely experienced this. Consult a doctor if it keeps going!
Here are some pointers:
- drink plenty of water to help with your higher fiber intake (2-3 liters)
- don't overeat or undereat. Make sure you are not getting way too many calories. Check your caloric needs and measure out your meals according to that. Just google "caloric needs calculator"
- are you stressed? That can be a huge cause too!!

Hope this helps!
 

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In addition to all the very helpful and wise advice above, it also helped me, personally, to remain mindful of food combining, especially not eating or drinking fruit after other food groups, and no longer drinking with meals, but rather 20 minutes before or after (allowing about a cups worth with the meal, if necessary).

I also learned it was beneficial to add a step stool to my bathroom toilet space to serve as a "squatty potty" in the daily elimination process to help place my body/organs in a more opportune position on the throne to be able to release as much as possible, as our bodies were apparently designed to do. I'm no expert, just a curious and experimental layman sharing what helps me.

Not eating late at night and chewing very very well, even my liquids, was a big help, too. I wasn't constipated as much as I was a loose cannon, salad shooter as I used to joke, when first transitioning, but there were times of severe bloating and pain that scared the hell out of me.

I noticed those were when I was trying to construct smoothies with various nuts, plant milks, greens, sea vegetables, fruit, etc., all in one serving along with meals of meat substitutes, a lot of starchy root veggies, many beans, often enhanced with nut based cheese and meat substitutes all combined, often adding more fruit later on as a snack and/or dessert and man...I was hurtin' for certain.

I now do my hydration, fruits, juices, and nice cream and such in the first part of my days and enjoy all the other yumminess after. Some folks aren't bothered in the least by eating and drinking fruit after other things, but my particular biology doesn't enjoy it.

Best wishes for relief...take good care of you.
 

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No, if anything at first I went 2-3 times per day, and as I went on, am adjusted to 1-2, often around the same time daily. Best digestion of my life.

What is your diet like?
 

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Yes, I have definitely experienced this. Consult a doctor if it keeps going!
Here are some pointers:
- drink plenty of water to help with your higher fiber intake (2-3 liters)
- don't overeat or undereat. Make sure you are not getting way too many calories. Check your caloric needs and measure out your meals according to that. Just google "caloric needs calculator"
- are you stressed? That can be a huge cause too!!

Hope this helps!
Drinking water is probably the best advice you can give.

I would also recommend drinking warm drinks, like coffee, tea or some hot water with lemon upon wakening, in the morning.

I always suspect people are on some extremely restrictive version of a vegan diet when I read that something suddenly went wrong after a few weeks. Too many bananas, not enough food, all juice, no fat, something.

But water and warm drinks are sound advice, as is trying a natural laxative like senna, before running to a doctor. If that doesn't work, then see a doctor.
 

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That doesn't sound like a normal side effect.

I'm amazed at how regular I've become since going vegan.

Before, when I was doing keto, I was always constipated and had a hard time going to the toilet.

Now, I easily go several times a day as the food just keeps me regular and moving through my system easily. I eat a lot of whole grains, fruits, veggies, and stay hydrated.
 

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In addition to all the very helpful and wise advice above, it also helped me, personally, to remain mindful of food combining, especially not eating or drinking fruit after other food groups, and no longer drinking with meals, but rather 20 minutes before or after (allowing about a cups worth with the meal, if necessary).

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Interesting - could you provide a link to support this?
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Nope. The only link I can provide is my direct link to trying it out and experiencing much relief from it. You're an avid and excellent researcher, though, so I'm sure if anything exists, you'll happen upon it before I will. It's highly likely you've already searched and haven't found anything to your satisfaction which is why you've come to ask. Sorry to let you down.

It was suggested to me by a local long time vegan consumer (12+years) I sought advice and support from after my medical emergency. I didn't study or specifically seek peer reviewed or agency approved information to support every single thing we discussed, as she and others had already lived it with great success and she was kindly sharing her direct experience, just as I am. Not to mention, I had been repeatedly harmed by several agencies and their so called expert advice and such in the past, so that level of verification of information doesn't hold as much weight in my world as it used to.

She explained to me that fruit and fruit juices digest much more quickly than the other food groups and it would be beneficial to eat them first to avoid digestive back-up, bloating, fermenting in the gut, etc. Even mixing certain fruits with others was mentioned as potentially problematic.

The drinking while eating was explained as washing away the digestive enzymes that we need to keep very much in place to healthily break down what we ingest. A registered dietitian had also explained that aspect to me a few years prior to hearing it again from my vegan friend, but I wasn't ready to hear/absorb/retain it, apparently.

I had no need or desire to question and dig further once I tried her advice and it provided me with much relief from the bloating and pain I was experiencing. It just made good sense to me that even though I was choosing healthier foods, it might actually matter how I was combining them. I was sensitive to certain non-vegan food combos, why not the vegan ones?

All those less than pleasant after dinner bodily sounds and functions that used to be grossly yet humorously regarded as simply being, "Compliments to the chef!" greatly lessened once I incorporated her suggestions. Gratefully, the bloating was no longer a thing.
 

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Some people have carb sensitivity.When i eat chickpeas, peas, lentils, beans, whole pasta, my stomach reaches the pregnancy.
Sugars, and fruits, can swollen the belly up to.

Cut the grains, sugars, and see if it helps.
If you eat right you must feel right.

If you find the cure, please warn us.
 

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What are the symptoms of low hydrochloric acid?

  • Bloating, especially soon after meals
  • Heartburn or reflux (though some reflux can also be caused by hyperacidity)
  • Gastritis (especially secondary to H Pylori infection)
  • Undigested food in stool
  • Flatulence, especially the smelly kind
  • Constipation or diarrhoea
  • IBS
  • Bacterial or parasitic infections
  • Colonic dysbiosis
  • Yeast overgrowth
  • SIBO
  • Food intolerances
  • Leaky gut
  • Bad breath
  • B12, magnesium, calcium, iron and zinc deficiency
  • Poor hair, teeth and nails
  • High triglycerides and cholesterol
  • Estrogen dominance and PMS
 

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Foods That Help Increase HCL

Foods in the diet also help the body produce more HCL naturally over time, though may not be as quick acting as a supplement. These foods are: lemons, limes, apple cider vinegar, along with papaya, pineapple, and a high-quality salt. Though a low-sodium diet is healthy for many, some people can actually take in too little salt, which can decrease HCL levels naturally, hence the name hydro-chloric( with chloric meaning salt). A great idea to improve your stomach acid levels naturally would be to try making a HCL-producing meal, such as a large salad with some apple cider vinegar lemon dressing, and a sprinkle of high-mineral sea salt (such as pink Himilayan or true salt), and perhaps some miso (also high in quality salt that provides beneficial bacteria).
 

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Foods That Help Increase HCL

Foods in the diet also help the body produce more HCL naturally over time, though may not be as quick acting as a supplement. These foods are: lemons, limes, apple cider vinegar, along with papaya, pineapple, and a high-quality salt. Though a low-sodium diet is healthy for many, some people can actually take in too little salt, which can decrease HCL levels naturally, hence the name hydro-chloric( with chloric meaning salt). A great idea to improve your stomach acid levels naturally would be to try making a HCL-producing meal, such as a large salad with some apple cider vinegar lemon dressing, and a sprinkle of high-mineral sea salt (such as pink Himilayan or true salt), and perhaps some miso (also high in quality salt that provides beneficial bacteria).
Hi Espirito,

Indigestion can be caused by several things, not just low hydrochloric acid. According to the reputable Mayo Clinic, all of these are possible causes of indigestion:

Overeating or eating too quickly
Fatty, greasy or spicy foods
Too much caffeine, alcohol, chocolate or carbonated beverages
Smoking
Anxiety
Certain antibiotics, pain relievers and iron supplements
Gastritis
Peptic ulcers
Celiac disease
Gallstones
Constipation
Pancreas inflammation (pancreatitis)
Stomach cancer
Intestinal blockage
Reduced blood flow in the intestine (intestinal ischemia)

Link:http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/indigestion/symptoms-causes/dxc-20209277

Unfortunately, it's not really possible (or safe) for us to attempt to diagnose or treat these potentially dangerous medical conditions over the internet. For everyone's safety, none of us should attempt to serve the role of physician on this forum.

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Some people have carb sensitivity.When i eat chickpeas, peas, lentils, beans, whole pasta, my stomach reaches the pregnancy.
Sugars, and fruits, can swollen the belly up to.

Cut the grains, sugars, and see if it helps.
If you eat right you must feel right.

If you find the cure, please warn us.
Espirito,

You are suggesting that legumes, grains, and fruits are harmful for digestion. Legumes are important sources of protein. Legumes, grains, and fruit are valuable sources of vitamins and minerals. No qualified nutrition professional would recommend eliminating these foods, unless a positive medical diagnosis required it.

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I agreed that he needs to go to a doctor.

Friends, i'm giving options to this person, and he can try to see if gets better.
Many people like me can't have grains, and some fruits.

I do better without them.
Remember everybody is different, this is why there are so many of us, that can't do the same as others.

And definitly if the problem persists he should go to a doctor, and a good one.
 
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