Avril/Techno bashing!
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Nice one Tofu.
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Let's not forget those such as Aron Carter and Nikki Webster.
They are these little pre-teen brats who know SFA about anything and yet sing as though they are a lot older and full of wisdom and experience. Some Stock-Aitken-Waterman types write crap for these kids that are barely out of diapers about lost loves and other stuff that the recently-weaned could hardly know about, when they should be singing about going to K-Mart with Mom and buying their first bra or their voice changing as they start to think maybe, just maybe, girls don't have cooties.
That's if they should be singing at all, which I don't think they should be.
Let's not forget those such as Aron Carter and Nikki Webster.
They are these little pre-teen brats who know SFA about anything and yet sing as though they are a lot older and full of wisdom and experience. Some Stock-Aitken-Waterman types write crap for these kids that are barely out of diapers about lost loves and other stuff that the recently-weaned could hardly know about, when they should be singing about going to K-Mart with Mom and buying their first bra or their voice changing as they start to think maybe, just maybe, girls don't have cooties.
That's if they should be singing at all, which I don't think they should be.
That makes me laugh too when you get these really young singers "singing" about stuff that they have no idea about.
Stock-Aitken-Waterman (manufactured bands) to me, are just awful. just there for the quick buck to line the pockets of those same people. Its disgusting that they do this IMO, it is ruining the music industry.
Stock-Aitken-Waterman (manufactured bands) to me, are just awful. just there for the quick buck to line the pockets of those same people. Its disgusting that they do this IMO, it is ruining the music industry.
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I gotta say something about that rap/R&B guy "Nelly"..... what's with always wearing the bandage on the cheek? Is it to make out as though he's some sort of tough guy who's always getting into street fights? And the crap he sings about.... he sure thinks highly of himself.
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i don't like either one but they enjoy making the music and there are people that obviously enjoy listening to the music.. so what's the harm? it's not degrading/hateful (i.e. a lot of rap) or completely mindless (i.e. britney spears, etc) - so more power to them.
besides, everyone knows that we should be concentrating our energy on the limp bizkits of the music industry
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besides, everyone knows that we should be concentrating our energy on the limp bizkits of the music industry
Well Britney appeals to younger people. At least her stuff has real music on it and is not totally computer generated. There has always been music for younger people. Is that harmful? Just good pop fun I say. It wont change the world but what does really.
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Have you seen Britney lookalikes? During the school holidays (especially Summer) around here there are so many pre/early teen girls trying to look like Britney or who-ever..... skimpy, tight clothing and loads of make-up; looking like a pack of little whores.
And there's the ****ing Olsen twins..... a line of push-up Bras for eight year olds was produced because of them, so eight year old girls could enhance their bust.
But then it's all about the dollar, isn't it? Make money at any ****ing cost.
And there's the ****ing Olsen twins..... a line of push-up Bras for eight year olds was produced because of them, so eight year old girls could enhance their bust.
But then it's all about the dollar, isn't it? Make money at any ****ing cost.
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It seems this thread has strayed from topic too. Shall we make a thread on the effects of modern day pop singers on pre-teen girls.
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In defense of electronic/hip hop, of course anyone can make a song off a computer program, but not everyone can make a great song. Anyone can learn a few chords on a guitar too, but that doesn't mean that person is going to start blowing people away with their songwriting skills.
I hate how people think electonic music is "not keeping it real." This genre is fertile ground for some of the most interesting music, if people would just get past their preconceived notions about it. I agree that there's a lot of repetitive electronic, and I suppose you can go as far as to say that a majority of electronic is ****, but that's because the artists that are bringing it to the mainstream are doing absolutely nothing interesting. Electronic music doesn't have to sound like it was created with pre-programmed casio beats, and it doesn't have to be repetitive to the point of absurdity. You don't even have to use a computer to make electronic music. Electronic music was being made in the 40's, before computers were even imagined as something you could someday use at home. Some artists mix real instuments with electronic to make something even more interesting than conventional music or electronic on its own, and some sample real instruments and turn the sounds into something that you couldn't even do while really playing it. Don't let the generic and trite **** form your opinion on a genre. I think it should be obvious by now that the mainstream, for the most part, is useless for discovering anything interesting or challenging in music.
In defense of electronic/hip hop, of course anyone can make a song off a computer program, but not everyone can make a great song. Anyone can learn a few chords on a guitar too, but that doesn't mean that person is going to start blowing people away with their songwriting skills.
I hate how people think electonic music is "not keeping it real." This genre is fertile ground for some of the most interesting music, if people would just get past their preconceived notions about it. I agree that there's a lot of repetitive electronic, and I suppose you can go as far as to say that a majority of electronic is ****, but that's because the artists that are bringing it to the mainstream are doing absolutely nothing interesting. Electronic music doesn't have to sound like it was created with pre-programmed casio beats, and it doesn't have to be repetitive to the point of absurdity. You don't even have to use a computer to make electronic music. Electronic music was being made in the 40's, before computers were even imagined as something you could someday use at home. Some artists mix real instuments with electronic to make something even more interesting than conventional music or electronic on its own, and some sample real instruments and turn the sounds into something that you couldn't even do while really playing it. Don't let the generic and trite **** form your opinion on a genre. I think it should be obvious by now that the mainstream, for the most part, is useless for discovering anything interesting or challenging in music.
"I hate how people think electonic music is "not keeping it real." This genre is fertile ground for some of the most interesting music, if people would just get past their preconceived notions about it. "
I totally agree with you! I posted in the Top 10 Bands thread earlier that I think it's a shame that techno & house has given electronic music such a bad rap! Some of the most beautifully orchestrated music i've ever heard has been 100% synthetic. I've got a lot of friends who are musicians and 'extreme purists' themselves but even they succumb to the genius of Brian Eno and Philip Glass. Newer artists like Air are super clever and even Becks albums are diffused with synthesised elements so I think targetting certain aspects of techno and house would be more appropriate to do here rather than bashing electronic music alltogether.
I also defend the genre because I'm a closet musician (just coming out thank you very much) and am in the process of setting up a home recording stuidio so I can play around with acoustic and electronic stuff. I writemost of my songs on the guitar but I find composing on the cumputer far more challenging.
I totally agree with you! I posted in the Top 10 Bands thread earlier that I think it's a shame that techno & house has given electronic music such a bad rap! Some of the most beautifully orchestrated music i've ever heard has been 100% synthetic. I've got a lot of friends who are musicians and 'extreme purists' themselves but even they succumb to the genius of Brian Eno and Philip Glass. Newer artists like Air are super clever and even Becks albums are diffused with synthesised elements so I think targetting certain aspects of techno and house would be more appropriate to do here rather than bashing electronic music alltogether.
I also defend the genre because I'm a closet musician (just coming out thank you very much) and am in the process of setting up a home recording stuidio so I can play around with acoustic and electronic stuff. I writemost of my songs on the guitar but I find composing on the cumputer far more challenging.
I don't like techno for a simple reason;
I don't enjoy listening to it.
It's not fun or interesting, at least not to me. Nothing happens in it! it's like, "badump badump badumpbadumpbadump" for hours, maybe a voice singing the same lyrics over and over and over. Boooo-riiinnnnggg.
I don't enjoy listening to it.
It's not fun or interesting, at least not to me. Nothing happens in it! it's like, "badump badump badumpbadumpbadump" for hours, maybe a voice singing the same lyrics over and over and over. Boooo-riiinnnnggg.
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Yes, in techno that is the case a lot of the time, but techno doesn't represent all electronic. It's just one form of it. Just like rock has a lot of different styles, so does electronic.
Nothing is wrong with house - I think there's a lot of good house (and techno) around but a lot of what makes it into the mainstream isn't really representitive of this - at least not from my perspective. Besides it was pointless for me to generalize because there are just too many kinds of house around to make such a blanketed statement. sorry 'bout that...
I dont really think its bad, or that the "artists"suck, its just completely the not my type of music, and i dont enjoy listening to it.
However avril is another issue.... But i said all i have to say about her in the other board...
Ive heard that there is going to be "american juniors" like american idol apart from 13-18 year olds... I think its just going to be a parade of sluts... But who knows.. it could go anyway... maybe *shudder* they'll all dress like avril..... No matter what i dont think im going to enjoy that show!
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However avril is another issue.... But i said all i have to say about her in the other board...
Ive heard that there is going to be "american juniors" like american idol apart from 13-18 year olds... I think its just going to be a parade of sluts... But who knows.. it could go anyway... maybe *shudder* they'll all dress like avril..... No matter what i dont think im going to enjoy that show!
Danny
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That Eminem guy apparently has some sort of beauty treatment each day for acne scars. What a big tough rapper dude!
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Uh-oh, he better not let that secret out. People might think he's gay. God forbid.
There's a good candidate for the "celebrities that should retire" list.
There's a good candidate for the "celebrities that should retire" list.
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