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<div class="quote-block">The Federal Government is considering banning live animal exports to some countries after ABC TV broadcast disturbing footage of Australian cattle being mistreated in Indonesian abattoirs.<br><br>
Last night's Four Corners program featured footage of Australian cattle being beaten, whipped and kicked prior to slaughter in Indonesia.<br><br>
According to analysis of the footage by RSPCA chief scientist Bidda Jones, some animals show signs of possible consciousness when they are dismembered.<br><br>
Agriculture Minister Joe Ludwig has introduced an immediate moratorium on a type of animal restraint box used in live exports and says he wants a full briefing before deciding on whether to impose export bans.<br><br>
The Greens and some independents have called for live exports to be banned immediately and today MP Andrew Wilkie will introduce a private member's bill on the issue into Parliament.<br><br>
Mr Ludwig says he was shocked by the images and is now examining ways to ban live exports to specific countries.</div>
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<br><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/05/31/3231201.htm" target="_blank">http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...31/3231201.htm</a>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Tofulicious</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2904074"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I do hope this does go through. It'll be a victory, albeit small.</div>
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I agree... but I assume some of those same abuses are happening in Australia itself. I know here in the US you don't have to look to Guatemala or Bolivia to find non-human animals being abused like that. Shouldn't they be concerned with home grown abuse as well?
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Rotoshave</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2904189"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I agree... but I assume some of those same abuses are happening in Australia itself.</div>
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They are, but not on the scale that it's happening in Indonesia. Australia at least has some industry standards regarding slaughter that Aussie abbatoirs have to comply with.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Shouldn't they be concerned with home grown abuse as well?</div>
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I think that is a very parochial outlook on the situation. It has the effect of making you sound like one of those people that always says "why are we so concerned about starving children in Africa when we have our own people to worry about!"
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Nishani</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2904286"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I think that is a very parochial outlook on the situation. It has the effect of making you sound like one of those people that always says "why are we so concerned about starving children in Africa when we have our own people to worry about!"</div>
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If I meant it in an exclusive way, yes. As I didn't... I simply meant that while it is admirable that they are concerned about non-human animal abuse in Indonesia, they should look to their own backyard as well and address the abuses there as well as in Indonesia.
 

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You know what stands out to me about your original post? There's no acknowledgment from you that this action is a positive thing. There's only a negative criticism about Australia not doing enough. If you can't even applaud the small positive actions when they happen, it makes you look you're a vegan so you can have something to moan about.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Nishani</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2908344"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
^^<br><br>
You know what stands out to me about your original post? There's no acknowledgment from you that this action is a positive thing. There's only a negative criticism about Australia not doing enough. If you can't even applaud the small positive actions when they happen, it makes you look you're a vegan so you can have something to moan about.</div>
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I don't know why you are getting so defensive about this. I am extremely happy that Australia is doing this. By the way they have: <a href="http://english.aljazeera.net/news/asia-pacific/2011/06/201168913948560.html" target="_blank">http://english.aljazeera.net/news/as...913948560.html</a>
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Rotoshave</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2910101"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I don't know why you are getting so defensive about this.</div>
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Aussie pride <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br>
on another positive note, apparently domestic beef sales at butchers have dropped 15% as well - which (imo) is more significant as the domestic beef market is worth about 17B/yr compared to about 500M/yr for the live export trade. No doubt they'll bounce back, but hopefully it'll have a bit of a permanent impact <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 
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