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I find that the people I know who eat pork or consume a bunch of meat have nasty attitudes and get sort of violent at times. Is there any studies on this or am I just trippin'?
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I think you're just trippin' <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="
">. There are plenty of vegetarians that have nasty attitudes and have anger issues.
">. There are plenty of vegetarians that have nasty attitudes and have anger issues.
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... and plenty of non-pork eaters in the Middle East with horrible attitudes that get seriously violent on a regular basis.
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I find that the people I know who eat pork or consume a bunch of meat have nasty attitudes and get sort of violent at times. Is there any studies on this or am I just trippin'?</div>
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I don't know that you're just tripping. I've often wondered whether there's a connection between carnivorous diet and violent loss of self-control. Unfortunately, I know of no studies that have looked into the matter. I think yours is a valid question, and the subject deserving of exploration.
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I find that the people I know who eat pork or consume a bunch of meat have nasty attitudes and get sort of violent at times. Is there any studies on this or am I just trippin'?</div>
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I don't know that you're just tripping. I've often wondered whether there's a connection between carnivorous diet and violent loss of self-control. Unfortunately, I know of no studies that have looked into the matter. I think yours is a valid question, and the subject deserving of exploration.
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I don't know that you're just tripping. I've often wondered whether there's a connection between carnivorous diet and violent loss of self-control. Unfortunately, I know of no studies that have looked into the matter. I think yours is a valid question, and the subject deserving of exploration.</div>
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Capstan, thanks for your understanding in the question I raised. Eating all this meat, mainly pork I do notice that people are not only voracious, but also ready to fight over small things, not to mention they look like lil pigs in the face and are very abdominous. So with that said it may be high blood pressure. But the ladies I know who are trying to get me all the way off of chicken and meats, are so polite, so eudemonic, and youthful and is the reason why I raised the question, but fadaway1289 said I was trippin' which could be true as well.
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I don't know that you're just tripping. I've often wondered whether there's a connection between carnivorous diet and violent loss of self-control. Unfortunately, I know of no studies that have looked into the matter. I think yours is a valid question, and the subject deserving of exploration.</div>
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Capstan, thanks for your understanding in the question I raised. Eating all this meat, mainly pork I do notice that people are not only voracious, but also ready to fight over small things, not to mention they look like lil pigs in the face and are very abdominous. So with that said it may be high blood pressure. But the ladies I know who are trying to get me all the way off of chicken and meats, are so polite, so eudemonic, and youthful and is the reason why I raised the question, but fadaway1289 said I was trippin' which could be true as well.
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I think it's more likely to be a social construct than anything physiological. Those men who think that being tough and aggressive is "manly" usually include eating meat in their stereotype. On the other hand, peaceful people are likely to extend that peace to non-human animals, thus becoming veg*n.<br><br>
If there is a correlation, and I really don't know if there is, then I would expect it's more likely that the attitude causes the diet than the other way around.<br><br>
--Fromper<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/juggle.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":juggle:">
If there is a correlation, and I really don't know if there is, then I would expect it's more likely that the attitude causes the diet than the other way around.<br><br>
--Fromper<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/juggle.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":juggle:">
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Don't know, but I'm a peaceful vegan and I can get very angry and throw glasses and stuff sometimes =)
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I think you're just trippin' <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="">. There are plenty of vegetarians that have nasty attitudes and have anger issues.</div>
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LOL.....good one and 99.9% of the time I am full of peace and love but sometimes I have an nasty attitude problem<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=""><br><br>
Peace<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="">
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I think you're just trippin' <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="
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LOL.....good one and 99.9% of the time I am full of peace and love but sometimes I have an nasty attitude problem<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="
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So with that said it may be high blood pressure.</div>
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I wonder sometimes if meateaters suffer with protien overdose.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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I think it's more likely to be a social construct than anything physiological. Those men who think that being tough and aggressive is "manly" usually include eating meat in their stereotype. On the other hand, peaceful people are likely to extend that peace to non-human animals, thus becoming veg*n.<br><br>
If there is a correlation, and I really don't know if there is, then I would expect it's more likely that the attitude causes the diet than the other way around.<br><br>
--Fromper<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/juggle.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":juggle:"></div>
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I don't know that there's a correlation either, but I suspect there is. One of sequoia's signatures is, '"As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields." -Leo Tolstoy.' I expect Tolstoy was thinking along the same line.<br><br>
I think the causes of both attitude and diet, but especially diet, are environmental, in that they are both learned traits- traditions, so to speak- passed along from one generation to the next.
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So with that said it may be high blood pressure.</div>
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I wonder sometimes if meateaters suffer with protien overdose.<br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
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I think it's more likely to be a social construct than anything physiological. Those men who think that being tough and aggressive is "manly" usually include eating meat in their stereotype. On the other hand, peaceful people are likely to extend that peace to non-human animals, thus becoming veg*n.<br><br>
If there is a correlation, and I really don't know if there is, then I would expect it's more likely that the attitude causes the diet than the other way around.<br><br>
--Fromper<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/juggle.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":juggle:"></div>
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I don't know that there's a correlation either, but I suspect there is. One of sequoia's signatures is, '"As long as there are slaughterhouses, there will be battlefields." -Leo Tolstoy.' I expect Tolstoy was thinking along the same line.<br><br>
I think the causes of both attitude and diet, but especially diet, are environmental, in that they are both learned traits- traditions, so to speak- passed along from one generation to the next.
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I have a good friend who is a raw foodist and her husband is an omni, he eats mostly raw and vegetarian these days but he has mentioned that he feels very moody and irritable whenever he does eat meat. I've heard that a bunch of different times from people too, so whether it's physical or psychological there appears to be something to it. Maybe it's a bit of both, with all the growth hormones they pump animals full of I wouldn't be surprised if there were some side effects, that's pure speculation though.<br><br>
Personally I don't remember ever feeling angry when I ate meat, it was awhile back but before I knew what it was I used to eat it every day and I didn't have a very angry childhood or anything. Who knows.
Personally I don't remember ever feeling angry when I ate meat, it was awhile back but before I knew what it was I used to eat it every day and I didn't have a very angry childhood or anything. Who knows.
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I've come across some raw fooders who claim that moodiness and anger come from being carbohydrate deficient, which is a common condition amongst both high fat raw fooders and your typical omnivore. Even carb-fearing veggies it seems. There may be something to that hypothesis.
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I've come across some raw fooders who claim that moodiness and anger come from being carbohydrate deficient, which is a common condition amongst both high fat raw fooders and your typical omnivore. Even carb-fearing veggies it seems. There may be something to that hypothesis.</div>
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I can believe that for sure, I tend to get really irritable when I skip a meal or two.<br><br>
Fill me up with some mashed potatoes and gravy though and I'm as content as a kitty sleeping in the sun. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="">
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I've come across some raw fooders who claim that moodiness and anger come from being carbohydrate deficient, which is a common condition amongst both high fat raw fooders and your typical omnivore. Even carb-fearing veggies it seems. There may be something to that hypothesis.</div>
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I can believe that for sure, I tend to get really irritable when I skip a meal or two.<br><br>
Fill me up with some mashed potatoes and gravy though and I'm as content as a kitty sleeping in the sun. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="
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Haha, yeah, it's too bad we can't pass the potatoes around VB when people start getting feisty. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title="">
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I've thrown stuff, put my fist through walls and doors for most of my life. The only reason I've tamed down with that is I hate to turn something useful into trash. But even while feeling that way, I have still managed to go nuts and throw a TV or punch a desk-top computer so hard that it never worked again.
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My brother doesn't eat meat and has CRAZY anger problems. So I think you're trippin</div>
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May be trippin'. But the fact of the matter is the meats today they sell are full of this and that. Your forced to buy water due to the fact that they do poison the water. Any person with common sense knows this food they allow to be sold does effect how you act and mainly if you eat it everyday. Decades ago there was no such thing as an health food store. People grew their own food but due to social engineering. They market easy, fast quick mess and label it food.<br><br>
And for those who claim they punch walls and destroy tv's and whatnot. That has nothing to do with food. That has to do with coming up as a child with no home training and not getting your ass whipped for foolishness.
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My brother doesn't eat meat and has CRAZY anger problems. So I think you're trippin</div>
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May be trippin'. But the fact of the matter is the meats today they sell are full of this and that. Your forced to buy water due to the fact that they do poison the water. Any person with common sense knows this food they allow to be sold does effect how you act and mainly if you eat it everyday. Decades ago there was no such thing as an health food store. People grew their own food but due to social engineering. They market easy, fast quick mess and label it food.<br><br>
And for those who claim they punch walls and destroy tv's and whatnot. That has nothing to do with food. That has to do with coming up as a child with no home training and not getting your ass whipped for foolishness.
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That has to do with coming up as a child with no home training and not getting your ass whipped for foolishness.</div>
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Hah!
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That has to do with coming up as a child with no home training and not getting your ass whipped for foolishness.</div>
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Hah!
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One can always depend on VB for stupid false accusations.
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May be trippin'. But the fact of the matter is the meats today they sell are full of this and that. Your forced to buy water due to the fact that they do poison the water. Any person with common sense knows this food they allow to be sold does effect how you act and mainly if you eat it everyday. Decades ago there was no such thing as an health food store. People grew their own food but due to social engineering. They market easy, fast quick mess and label it food.<br><br>
And for those who claim they punch walls and destroy tv's and whatnot. That has nothing to do with food. That has to do with coming up as a child with no home training and not getting your ass whipped for foolishness.</div>
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Yeah he has anger problems because of my dad, not food. And I know some really nice, calm meat eaters.
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>carlosfromsc1</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2879893"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
May be trippin'. But the fact of the matter is the meats today they sell are full of this and that. Your forced to buy water due to the fact that they do poison the water. Any person with common sense knows this food they allow to be sold does effect how you act and mainly if you eat it everyday. Decades ago there was no such thing as an health food store. People grew their own food but due to social engineering. They market easy, fast quick mess and label it food.<br><br>
And for those who claim they punch walls and destroy tv's and whatnot. That has nothing to do with food. That has to do with coming up as a child with no home training and not getting your ass whipped for foolishness.</div>
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Yeah he has anger problems because of my dad, not food. And I know some really nice, calm meat eaters.
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And for those who claim they punch walls and destroy tv's and whatnot. That has nothing to do with food. That has to do with coming up as a child with no home training and not getting your ass whipped for foolishness.</div>
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I think "getting your ass whipped for foolishness" as a child is far more likely to leave you with some anger issues than scoffing a few pieces of steak. There's no reliable scientific evidence to date that I'm aware of that shows that the trauma an animal might experience at death is absorbed and passed on through it's tissues.
<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>carlosfromsc1</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2879893"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
And for those who claim they punch walls and destroy tv's and whatnot. That has nothing to do with food. That has to do with coming up as a child with no home training and not getting your ass whipped for foolishness.</div>
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I think "getting your ass whipped for foolishness" as a child is far more likely to leave you with some anger issues than scoffing a few pieces of steak. There's no reliable scientific evidence to date that I'm aware of that shows that the trauma an animal might experience at death is absorbed and passed on through it's tissues.
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