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i've been talking to my parents alot about this whole veganism thing recently but i always seem to get arguments back which, to me at least, make no sense...i never know what to say when they come back at me with things like;
"yes but IF air travel and sea travel were stopped due to global warming we need to become more self sufficient and if we only lived on local produce we wouldn't have enough to eat being vegan and it would be far better to eat locally produced meat. it wouldn't be practical to be vegan. we'd only be living off potato and veg if we only ate local produce etc etc"
-oh dear not the what if game please...
[in responce to the whole you wouldn't eat your pet, why eat an animal thing]
i asked them if they'd kill and eat our dog because he had had a nice life so far. they said of course not.....
"that's different"
but when it comes to the animals that are seen as 'food' such as pigs, cows and chickens....
"if it has been treated well there is nothing wrong with killing it. animals aren't sentient beings. they may feel pain but it doesn't know what that means. so long as it has had a nice life it is alright to kill it. if its not been factory farmed it is ok to kill and eat the animal. so long as it hasn't been factory farmed it is killed nicely. its ok if the animals have been killed kindly. they don't feel any distress or suffering. etc etc"
- this is the one i really have a problem with, ANIMALS ARE SENTIENT BEINGS, aren't they?? i don't understand why they don't feel that the life of an animal is worth anything and that they have the right to take it just because that is how people have always acted. since when is it ok? we are intelligent beings and we have plenty of alternatives. we don't need to kill animals to survive. and whats all this about the fact that it is only factory farmed animals who suffer?? they seem to think our extremely stupid dog is more intelligent and feels pain more than a chicken, cow or pig....
oh yea and how do you kill something 'nicely'?
"humans have always killed animals to eat. we aren't meant to be vegan. humans have always been meat eaters and veganism isn't a natural way to live.we would have two stomachs if we were meant to be herbivores.its what i grew up with. it's how its always been."
- umm still doesn't mean that killing animals is right does it??
i'm just at a complete loss and each responce i get from them leaves me speechless...i wondered if any of you could help me argue my case...i'm sorry if my post has been incoherent and messy and probably over sensitive and emotional but it just makes me feel so annoyed lol
there are loads of other similar things they have said that i can't quite remember atm but i'll add some later if i think of any more
i would love to hear all your opinions on these arguments against veganism
"yes but IF air travel and sea travel were stopped due to global warming we need to become more self sufficient and if we only lived on local produce we wouldn't have enough to eat being vegan and it would be far better to eat locally produced meat. it wouldn't be practical to be vegan. we'd only be living off potato and veg if we only ate local produce etc etc"
-oh dear not the what if game please...

[in responce to the whole you wouldn't eat your pet, why eat an animal thing]
i asked them if they'd kill and eat our dog because he had had a nice life so far. they said of course not.....
"that's different"
but when it comes to the animals that are seen as 'food' such as pigs, cows and chickens....
"if it has been treated well there is nothing wrong with killing it. animals aren't sentient beings. they may feel pain but it doesn't know what that means. so long as it has had a nice life it is alright to kill it. if its not been factory farmed it is ok to kill and eat the animal. so long as it hasn't been factory farmed it is killed nicely. its ok if the animals have been killed kindly. they don't feel any distress or suffering. etc etc"
- this is the one i really have a problem with, ANIMALS ARE SENTIENT BEINGS, aren't they?? i don't understand why they don't feel that the life of an animal is worth anything and that they have the right to take it just because that is how people have always acted. since when is it ok? we are intelligent beings and we have plenty of alternatives. we don't need to kill animals to survive. and whats all this about the fact that it is only factory farmed animals who suffer?? they seem to think our extremely stupid dog is more intelligent and feels pain more than a chicken, cow or pig....

"humans have always killed animals to eat. we aren't meant to be vegan. humans have always been meat eaters and veganism isn't a natural way to live.we would have two stomachs if we were meant to be herbivores.its what i grew up with. it's how its always been."
- umm still doesn't mean that killing animals is right does it??

i'm just at a complete loss and each responce i get from them leaves me speechless...i wondered if any of you could help me argue my case...i'm sorry if my post has been incoherent and messy and probably over sensitive and emotional but it just makes me feel so annoyed lol


there are loads of other similar things they have said that i can't quite remember atm but i'll add some later if i think of any more
i would love to hear all your opinions on these arguments against veganism
