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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by kittee</i><br><br><b>i'm celebrating my 12th veganversary this december. i want a huge blowout of a party. do you think this is too pretentious? it's more fun to celebrate in huge unruly groups.<br><br><br><br>
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That's definately not pretentious!<br><br><br><br>
Go for it!
 

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i clicked vegetarian.<br><br><br><br>
as many of you would recall, i would have placed vegan in there a short while ago, but i've returned to the land of egg eating. I eat about two a week, which come from very loved pet chickens. they're good and i'm happy with where they come from. they're not part of that which i reject in chicken farming--which was why i didn't eat eggs before. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
i've changed my ways. Of course, this will stop when those chickens stop producing eggs, which they're "mom" says may be in the winter. they don't lay as many then, she says. she isn't sure why and neither am i. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> but i'm not gonna force em. LOL<br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br>
i'm a chicken oppressor! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">
 

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I lost the ability to digest eggs (I just feel ill when I eat them) when I was a kid, but if I had pet chickens, I'd use the eggs for baking, or give them to people.
 

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i've always loved eggs. i couldn't go back to dairy because of lactose intolerance, but i really missed eggs--particularly hard boiled eggs. LOL i always always loved them. they were/are my favorite.<br><br><br><br>
the two a week that i eat now are always hard boiled. i just love them that way. i can't get over it. LOL
 

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well, i think fish smells really bad <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"><br><br><br><br>
but yeah the only reason i don't eat eggs is really because of the way they're farmed, the treatment of the poor chickens etc. though if i knew someone with a chicken farm that i knew was humane, i would only take the eggs if the chickens were raised for pets or for their eggs, and not to be eaten. if they were raising the chickens so they could kill and eat them i wouldn't support it no matter how wellkept they were.
 

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I was vegan for over 2 years, and years prior to that always leaned heavily towards vegetarianism (though didn't always pull it off). BUt this year I decided to go back to what I consider to be a sort of 'conscious' vegetarianism.<br><br><br><br>
I eat a vegan diet the majority of the time still (and I am severely lactose intolerant) but do now incorporate cheeses and yoghurts or cooked 'modified milk ingredients' into my diet.<br><br><br><br>
I found that I had not been 'pulling off' the vegan thing well enough to stay healthy- my fingernails were cracking like mad, I felt tired and headachy all the time, I was pale and sick looking...<br><br><br><br>
NO problem with veganism itself, but I figured out after 2 years of trying that it just wasn't working well for me, in my life. I was chronically failing to provide myself with adequate protein and iron, and feeling the effects quite seriously.<br><br><br><br>
Now, as I said, I eat a minimum of dairy and eggs, and I feel much better. It fits with my lifestyle a bit better I think. I still try to make conscientious decisions about my food, and food politics, however.<br><br><br><br>
For example: I do not drink dairy milk, even when the BF buys himself the lactose free kind, and keeps it in my fridge, and I buy locally farmed (small scale, chicken-friendly production) eggs, if I buy them at all.<br><br><br><br>
I kind of miss being vegan, but at the same time I love feeling strong and headache free, and having healthy fingernails and hair. I didn't want to jeopardise my long-term health by continuing a lifestyle I couldn't actually follow correctly.<br><br><br><br>
Plus being vegan made me feel guilty ALL the time, and was a giant source of stress in my life. I always felt I wasn't doing things 'well enough' (good old perfectionism) and it caused me huge amounts of anxiety. NOw that I have allowed myself to be 'imperfect' I can just chill out and be sane.
 

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I support that outlook all the way Avalon... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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i really do not understand how so many people can bounce from eating meat to vegan to vegetarian, etc.<br><br><br><br>
i was vegetarian for TWO days then i have been vegan since, avoiding all animal products. i also never really worry about what i eat. it is just burned in my head after the year and a half of being vegan i guess.<br><br><br><br>
i dont know....i cant really say anything helpful right now because i am just getting sick of all these vegetarian kids bouncing back and forth. i honestly think most of them just do it to be cool and have no idea the MANY MANY reasons of why to do it.<br><br><br><br>
just changing your life in this one simple way helps sooooo much. if people dont start getting serious about the future and what is going to happen then...well i dont know.<br><br><br><br>
i think everyone just needs to quit worrying so much about themselves and realize that you are just a very very tiny part of the BIG picture. if we all think about the rest of the world instead of being so greedy, then maybe this world would not be so ****ed up<br><br><br><br>
about you not getting enough protein maybe you have a digestive problem, because i eat like crap and i never get sick or anything. maybe i get like 1 serving of fruit 1 serving of veggies but the rest is just grains (i know its bad) but i get by easy with flax oil and b12 once every two weeks<br><br><br><br>
sorry i probably just came off as a big *******, but its all from the heart
 

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Warhead, give yourself credit, especially if you are still vegan in 5 years. Going veg was a big change for me that required all the mental mettle I had to get started (the actually change in eating wasn't that hard), I find it would be hard for a young person to really stick with it, with all of the other changes in their lives. But then again it might be easier in some ways. I found it a lot easier to be weird and non-conformist as a teen than I do now as a "responsible adult".
 

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i'm not pointing fingers or condemning either but personally i can't relate to the bouncing back and forth either, once i went vegitarian i stayed vegitarian, likewise when i went vegan i stayed vegan, it's a lifelong commitment for me like not killing people or raping people, i can't see myself ever doing it again. the idea turns my stomache actually.
 

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Im vegetarian. Im guessing that vegans dont eat meat or dairy? Just concluding that from what I learned on the boards. I just dont eat meat.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by luckiecharms</i><br><br><b>Im vegetarian. Im guessing that vegans dont eat meat or dairy? Just concluding that from what I learned on the boards. I just dont eat meat.</b></div>
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Or eggs.<br><br><br><br>
Some don't eat honey or refined sugar either.
 

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Ok. And this might sound like a dumb question but what about butter and mayonnaise and food that has animal fat in it? Well butter is mostly fat and i assume animal fat? do you guys eat those things too?
 

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I wasn't aware there was animal fat in butter and mayonnaise. You sure? There are vegan versions of butter and mayonnaise.
 

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I'm a new vegan after being a lacto-ovo vegetarian for 9 years. I don't eat honey either (I don't really understand the debate - to me it just isn't vegan). I'm trying to cut out refined sugar at the moment but that seems like the most difficult thing as sugar is in so many things (more difficult than cutting out cheese!).<br><br><br><br>
I don't understand this going back & forth either. I could never go back to eating meat, the idea just makes me ill. I believe I'll be vegan for life now as I just don't view dairy in the same way it seems way too fatty now!<br><br><br><br>
luckiecharms - if there is something you eat as a vegetarian (mayo/butter/cheese etc) there is a vegan substitute for it. The cheeses don't tend to be that great & there obviously isn't a substute for a whole egg (but there are egg replacers for baking & you can make tofu resemble & taste pretty much like scrambled eggs). <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Once I read more on the topic I found that I couldn't continue eating eggs & dairy etc without going against the views I already had on farming. I sound like a bit of an extremist now, but I think vegetarians are fantastic. I'm glad there are so many of us! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D">
 

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I feel a lot like you do Avalon. I am an ovolactoveggie. I was vegan once and decided I liked cheese too and eggs too much. I don't wear leather or animal shoes. I get eggs from a place that is good to the chickens. The eggs could not have been born chicks so that is good. I feel that dairy isn't killing the cows and there are places that treat them well. But surely there needs to be a lot of activism done to make many of the dairy farmers more concious of how they treat animals. I usually eat soymilk and sometimes buy the veggie cheese. I have times I cut out the cheese and just get veggie kind. At times I don't eat eggs either. So, I relate to the stringent nervousness of Avalon. I do understand going back to vegetarian-it's human to do so I guess.
 

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I understand going back to being vegetarian from being vegan, but going back to eating meat is unthinkable to me! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I'm vegetarian! The only things that I eat that stop me from being classified vegan are chocolate, cheese, and sour cream.
 
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