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I think I'm going to become vegetarian. I've been vegan for about 2 and a half months, and I felt really good about it at first, but when I'm out and see things like cookies, fudge, cinamon rolls, cheddar corn bread, caramel apples, or eggs and milk in batters and things like that I feel like I'm going to slip. Also, I'm not good at cooking, and though I'm trying to learn, there are days where I have minimal ingredients and/or I'm not feeling up to cooking and I want the convenience of a grilled cheese or mac and cheese.<br><br>
At the same time, I feel so bad. I really want to be vegan, but the past week or so I've just been feeling so depressed about it. Like somehow I feel like I'm limiting myself and hurting myself, but at the same time I'm choosing my own convenience and cravings over the animals and my morals, and I feel so selfish with myself. It's when I'm out that I'm affected, especially at places where I have memories with my family, like eating Australian Batter Potatoes at the fair with my family every year, or eating cheddar corn bread at Disneyland and getting a caramel apple before leaving, and all of my family and some extended family all drinking Disneyland hot chocolate while waiting for the tree lighting, candlelight processional, holiday fireworks and snow. I'd still eat mostly vegan at home, but I'd be vegetarian because I don't want to be personally pure in what I eat. That's the best way I can explain it, but I'm a bit conflicted. If you were vegan and became vegetarian, why did you do it and how do you feel about it now?
 

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I went from vegan to vegetarian because I found a humane source of eggs, honey, and alpaca wool.<br><br>
Do as much as you can while being happy.
 

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I am vegetarian, and I try my best to eat vegan where possible. I also had a bit of a crisis with morals, but it really comes down to what you're comfortable with. We do what we can, and every bit helps. No matter what, you are still better than an omni. Personally I don't eat eggs or drink milk, but I will sometimes consume milk products like cheese. This is what I'm comfortable with. You too will find your balance. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I am sure you can be a vegan one day if you want to do so. It takes time to remove animal products from your life and find alternatives. You are only 2 months into your veg*n journey after all, take your time.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Freesia</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2943100"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I am sure you can be a vegan one day if you want to do so. It takes time to remove animal products from your life and find alternatives. You are only 2 months into your veg*n journey after all, take your time.</div>
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I agree, it's definitely a process. If you ease off for now you might find you're ready to go for it later on. I flip flopped between vegetarian and vegan many times before it finally stuck <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
And I know how it is with food memories, nostalgia is powerful stuff! Jonathan Safran Foer talks about that a bit in his book Eating Animals, I really recommend it. The great thing about memories is that we can make new ones and carry on traditions in a slightly different way. For instance I used to have warm fuzzy memories about roasting marshmallows over a campfire as a kid, and now I roast Dandies! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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You're young, and live in an omnivorous household. I wouldn't have lasted a week vegan when I was at that point in my life, let alone how long you've lasted. Do what makes you comfortable; you can always give veganism another go when you're shopping and cooking for yourself all the time. It's a lot easier when you have your independence <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)"><br><br>
I would say this; if you are going to go back, make sure the people in your life know it's not a 'slip' or you 'coming out of a phase'; the issues behind your veg*nism are still very important to you and you're just making a choice that's right for you at this point.
 

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I agree, it's definitely a process. If you ease off for now you might find you're ready to go for it later on. I flip flopped between vegetarian and vegan many times before it finally stuck <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
And I know how it is with food memories, nostalgia is powerful stuff! Jonathan Safran Foer talks about that a bit in his book Eating Animals, I really recommend it. The great thing about memories is that we can make new ones and carry on traditions in a slightly different way. For instance I used to have warm fuzzy memories about roasting marshmallows over a campfire as a kid, and now I roast Dandies! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p"></div>
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There are a number of vegan goodies that I cant get here, such as Daiya, but strangely there is a woman living in the city who makes and sells vegan marshmallows! I will try them one day.
 

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Thanks for the replies, everyone. When I'm able to drive and go get my own groceries so I can have access to all the special vegan substitutes I'll probably try to eat vegan even more and try to go to being a full vegan again. I'm not even sure yet if I'm going to stop being vegan and just be vegetarian, I just feel weak and unsure of myself right now so I think there's the possibility that I may. If I do, though, I'll definitely explain to my family that I'm not just slipping up and I've though this through and I still want to eat vegan most of the time but allow for some vegetarian foods, too, because it's better with my current lifestyle.
 

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I still have feelings of missing out(it's only been four months since going vegan). A couple months in and I really wanted ice cream. The more I told myself not to have it, the more I craved it. A hot day, ice cream all around, I caved. But I wasn't what I imagined it to be, a couple spoons in and I realized I wasn't enjoying it. I gave it away. However, since giving myself that leeway, I haven't felt the urge to slip up. I guess it was psychological, I don't know, just another newbie experience.
 

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Gandhi was a vegan for half a year before he added dairy back into his diet. So there's him <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
One thing to watch out for transitioning in that direction is dairy doing unwelcome things to your body. At least it always has to me after eating it when I hadn't for a while. Life's too short to spend that much time in the toilet.
 

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Gandhi was a vegan for half a year before he added dairy back into his diet. So there's him <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
One thing to watch out for transitioning in that direction is dairy doing unwelcome things to your body. At least it always has to me after eating it when I hadn't for a while. Life's too short to spend that much time in the toilet.</div>
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Well, I don't like pure eggs or milk, the only time I really have milk is with hot cocoa or something once in a while, I mean more like in cookies and baked things like that, with maybe some occasional cheese.
 

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After a few months of veganism, I've decided to go lacto-ovo veg for now. I'll still eat strict vegetarian at home, but I'll eat dairy and eggs at other people's houses because I don't want them to feel like there's nothing they can do to please me. I'm just not ready to fully commit to veganism right now, but it doesn't mean I never will be.
 

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You're young, and live in an omnivorous household. I wouldn't have lasted a week vegan when I was at that point in my life, let alone how long you've lasted. Do what makes you comfortable; you can always give veganism another go when you're shopping and cooking for yourself all the time. It's a lot easier when you have your independence <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">.</div>
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^This. Don't beat yourself up at all. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hug:">
 

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After a few months of veganism, I've decided to go lacto-ovo veg for now. I'll still eat strict vegetarian at home, but I'll eat dairy and eggs at other people's houses because I don't want them to feel like there's nothing they can do to please me. I'm just not ready to fully commit to veganism right now, but it doesn't mean I never will be.</div>
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This is another factor, too. I visit my grandparents a lot and it's hard to even eat vegetarian there, let alone vegan. They handle all family events, too, and I could eat before but when I stay for a week or more it is kind of annoying to rely on salad with no dressing or peanut butter sandwiches(and even then their bread usually has milk so I can't always eat this either). They don't understand why I won't eat beans with lard or tomato soup (fidello) with chicken stock. They expect me to live off fries if not and then they don't understand why I won't eat beef extract fries from mcdonalds and call me a liar when I say something isn't suitable for vegetarians. Again, I can't drive so I can't get my own food yet or else I would be able to manage decently if I could get a job and save some money for gas and food in situations like this. if only the world were vegan so I didn't have to worry about these things, but being in the minority in a very omni family is a bit difficult sometimes, especially away from home.
 

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I'm constantly switching every 2-4 months.. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/shocked.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":eek:"> So much for cravings going away after a few months, lol.
 

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Thanks for the replies, everyone. I think I'm going to stay vegan, I just had some off days where I was surrounded by all this great vegetarian (but not vegan) food and was afraid I was going to slip. I'm going to keep the option open for myself, though, if I feel like I can't stay vegan then I'll reconsider going vegetarian so I can have a little bit of room for cravings but don't slip.
 

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I went from vegan to vegetarian as well. I didn't stay vegan long though, it wasn't a long term thing. I had issues eating when my food was restricted so much. Now, I go through phases where I eat mostly vegan, then phases where I consume more dairy than I'd like to.<br><br>
If you do slip, don't beat yourself up. Staying a vegan in your situation is hard. Good luck!
 

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Thanks danakscully. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> I've been having similar issues like that, yesterday I just realized I hadn't eaten for a few days, besides maybe a small plate of french fries and a ream of crackers, because I just wasn't hungry and didn't realize I wasn't eating. I got depressed and kept obsessing over what I couldn't eat and because we hadn't gotten groceries yet I didn't know how to make meals out of the limited ingredients I had left. I realize now this probably had to do with my blood sugar issues, too, because if I don't get enough sugar every 2 hours I tend to feel really off. Now I'm just going to keep the option open where if I feel like that again I'll probably eat some vegetarian foods in a phase until I feel comfortable enough to go vegan again. I've never had eating issues like that before, where I've felt depressed, I've always eaten a lot, and I'm underweight already because of stomach health issues so when I realized how long it had been since I'd eaten I just panicked. And the cravings on top of it were hard to manage, because I never got cravings when I first went vegan, in that first month, and then lately I've been getting them more and more but I guess I just miss it because I haven't had it in a while and in that first month I didn't really care.
 

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Have you tried one of those websites where you put in a list of ingredients you have, check a bunch of boxes to say no meat, fish, dairy, etc, and it brings back a load of recipes you can make?<br><br>
Here's one: <a href="http://www.supercook.com/" target="_blank">http://www.supercook.com/</a><br>
And another: <a href="http://www.recipematcher.com/" target="_blank">http://www.recipematcher.com/</a><br><br>
I use them when I'm too broke to do a food shop.
 

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Have you tried one of those websites where you put in a list of ingredients you have, check a bunch of boxes to say no meat, fish, dairy, etc, and it brings back a load of recipes you can make?<br><br>
Here's one: <a href="http://www.supercook.com/" target="_blank">http://www.supercook.com/</a><br>
And another: <a href="http://www.recipematcher.com/" target="_blank">http://www.recipematcher.com/</a><br><br>
I use them when I'm too broke to do a food shop.</div>
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Thanks, I just bookmarked those <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> I found one when I was first researching vegan recipes and things but I completely forgot those existed.<br><br>
I think with cooking, too, I just need some patience. I've never really been good at cooking, and the past two years we lived at my grandma's house between moving and selling our house, and when my mom was gone I would cook basic things like frozen dinners or top ramen, also because things like ramen are pretty cheap and we didn't have a lot of money because my dad wouldn't pay child support, and my grandmother would yell at me that I could never get a husband if I can't cook and that if I had a husband he'd leave me if I didn't know how to cook and insults like that that when I try to cook something and I mess it up then I just feel like that again and I feel like I won't be able to ever cook well and I get too easily frustrated and defeated, and I want to just go back to cooking basic meals that can't be messed up like ramen or frozen mac and cheese. But I'm trying to be more patient now and really pick up on any mistakes I make to fix in more cooking, and I'm also using some start cookbooks and a lot of easy, basic vegweb recipes.
 
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