Yeah, well, Oscar Wilde also referred to all art as "quite useless." I did not try to say that art is not such thing at times, I only say that I work with meanings behind "my art" because I have found that seeking originality in the art world (which is what most artists do to get attention from the public) sometimes leads to "lack of artistry." In my opinion, having meaning behind everything I do is necessary, because otherwise I feel I am working with empty art or simply not art. But then, that just gets the whole thing to the endless argument of where "art" begins (I can think of an ocasion when I was told that the sounds of a busy city -cars, people walking, etc- were recorded and played in a concert just as any would a great masterpiece- many would consider this an 'original' expression of art) It all comes down to individual taste.Originally Posted by Ludi
Hmm, I think it was Man Ray who defined art as something with no usefulness... I'll try to find a quote. Maybe "purpose" and "usefulness" are two different things.
I don't think there need be any "shoulds" attatched to art. I certainly wouldn't want anyone attaching them to my art...
Ah. Good question. I guess my point mainly applies to the artist and the artistic process: the viewers/listeners/etc. are free to add various deep meanings to the work, but if the artist him/herself has something to express, he/she shouldn't need to hide it in the work.Originally Posted by Medesha
Ok, well, suppose you have a painting of an apple. Just an apple, maybe sitting on a blue and white checked tablecloth. And you're looking at it in the gallery, and two people beside you say, "Wow, isn't it incredible how the artist symbolized the mundane nature of being a housewife in the fifties? The lack of sheen on the apple, the rumpled tablecloth...it's all about how women's roles have been diminished since men blamed Eve for eating the apple."
And the other person goes, "Yeah, I can totally see how the artist's relationship with her mother influenced this particular piece. She overdosed on Valium, you know."
Do you think, "What a pretentious artist, I hate this piece!" or "What a couple of pretentious people next to me, it's just a painting of an apple!"
Heavens to Betsy, troub, I was JUST thinking this!Originally Posted by troub
Saying this, I have much adoration toward the arts, and believe that we should have rich renaissance educations akin to Gargantua and Pantagruel.
lol no, It was a World Literature class here at college. Would of been cool though eh? heh.Originally Posted by veggiewriter
Heavens to Betsy, troub, I was JUST thinking this!
You didn't, by any chance, just finish an on-line semester of Renaissance Literature, did you? 'Cause that would make this such a small world...