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I fully expect a million ants to come into my house come April/ May all the way through September. We get two different kinds. The ones that are tiny and black and march in a line to find food and are organized. Then there is the other kind coming later in the summer that are big and black and fast and walk all over the walls and in and out of cupboards.<br><br>
Last year before I was vegan we killed them with ant traps. I do not want to kill them this year, but I cannot have them crawling around with my toddlers on the floor and in our food.<br><br>
Any safe/ natural methods to deter them from entering the house? If they come in, is there a way to corral them elsewhere- away from the food and kids?<br><br>
I'm thoughtful about this now because they will be here before I remember to research it and become prepared!<br><br>
Any advice would be appreciated.
 

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Yes. I know several things... Just let me find them give me a sec.<br><br>
Okay, here is one blog about getting rid of them humanely <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><a href="http://postveganism.blogspot.com/2011/04/how-to-get-rid-of-ants-without-killing.html" target="_blank">http://postveganism.blogspot.com/201...t-killing.html</a><br><br>
I remember reading a comment somwhere about a guy getting rid of a whole infestation without killing them <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br>
I know I have heard several people mention trying cream of tartar and it working. My friend's mom simply throws sugar outside by her steps and that keeps the ants out there instead of in the house. At least, that's what my friend told me anyway. Prevention is always the best method though.
 

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they dont like peppermint oil. thats worked for me when ive used it. <a href="http://www.ehow.com/video_4997429_rid-ants-using-peppermint.html" target="_blank">get rid of ants with peppermint</a>
 

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Thank you!<br><br>
there are a ton of things that come up on a google search- I have no idea if any of them actually work, the sugar and peppermint come up a bunch. I will give them a try.<br>
Also- I found a thing that said that a mound of cinnamon placed where they come in will keep them away- I have no idea where they come in though. It seems they appear everywhere all at once all the sudden.
 

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Chili powder, chalk, peppermint oil, pine sol all deter ants. But the main thing is to eliminate what they are seeking (food and water). Make sure there are no crumbs in the cupboards, under the fridge and arounf the floor. Keep all your food in canisters or air tight containers. Take out trash often.<br><br>
Block where they enter the house. Cut away any tree branches or bushes that touch the house.<br><br>
The plug in insect repellents seem to work well too.
 

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Ants are notorious for their hatred of Panic! at the Disco, so try to keep their music playing on repeat 24/7 and maybe a few posters to boot.
 

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Chili powder, chalk, peppermint oil, pine sol all deter ants. But the main thing is to eliminate what they are seeking (food and water). Make sure there are no crumbs in the cupboards, under the fridge and arounf the floor. Keep all your food in canisters or air tight containers. Take out trash often.<br><br><b>Block where they enter the house</b>. Cut away any tree branches or bushes that touch the house.<br><br>
The plug in insect repellents seem to work well too.</div>
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They will than go to the next door neighbours and get killed.
 

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They will than go to the next door neighbours and get killed.</div>
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are you being serious?
 

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Not sure where this topic goes.<br><br>
I fully expect a million ants to come into my house come April/ May all the way through September. We get two different kinds. The ones that are tiny and black and march in a line to find food and are organized. Then there is the other kind coming later in the summer that are big and black and fast and walk all over the walls and in and out of cupboards.<br><br>
Last year before I was vegan we killed them with ant traps. I do not want to kill them this year, but I cannot have them crawling around with my toddlers on the floor and in our food.<br><br>
Any safe/ natural methods to deter them from entering the house? If they come in, is there a way to corral them elsewhere- away from the food and kids?<br><br>
I'm thoughtful about this now because they will be here before I remember to research it and become prepared!<br><br>
Any advice would be appreciated.</div>
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I had a thread about this a few months back because I have the same problem.<br><br>
I tried every humane deterrent I could find but none of it worked. I've tried chili powder, cayenne powder, cinnamon, and a bunch of other things but the ants practically just laughed at me. I put our cat's foot bowl in an upside-down shallow lid of water (basically, a food bowl moat) to protect her food from being overrun (this was the biggest attraction) but they still seem to be all over the place and made sure no food was left out on counter-tops. I was content to ignore them, really, <b>until they started biting me</b>!<br><br>
I'm conflicted about it but it's gotten to the point where I can't even sit on my furniture without being bit so I bought some bug killer this weekend at Lowe's. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> I really have no choice, though. If you could see my arms, I have about 11 bites on one arm just from these frakkin mean buggers*.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><span style="font-size:xx-small;">* Obviously, this is just hyperbole. I don't believe ants are mean and recognize they're just acting within their nature and that they have as much right to the property as I do.</span>
 

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are you being serious?</div>
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Isn't that what happens in nearly every household ?
 

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I had a thread about this a few months back because I have the same problem.<br><br>
I tried every humane deterrent I could find but none of it worked. I've tried chili powder, cayenne powder, cinnamon, and a bunch of other things but the ants practically just laughed at me. I put our cat's foot bowl in an upside-down shallow lid of water (basically, a food bowl moat) to protect her food from being overrun (this was the biggest attraction) but they still seem to be all over the place and made sure no food was left out on counter-tops. I was content to ignore them, really, <b>until they started biting me</b>!<br><br>
I'm conflicted about it but it's gotten to the point where I can't even sit on my furniture without being bit so I bought some bug killer this weekend at Lowe's. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> I really have no choice, though. If you could see my arms, I have about 11 bites on one arm just from these frakkin mean buggers*.<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><span style="font-size:xx-small;">* Obviously, this is just hyperbole. I don't believe ants are mean and recognize they're just acting within their nature and that they have as much right to the property as I do.</span></div>
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the same thing happens here- they literally crawl all over you- when you are sleeping or sitting on the couch and bite. We used traps last year because we didn't want them to bite our children and dogs anymore. And I wasn't in the vegan frame of mind, so I didn't hesitate killing them. They were also all over out food and the dog food. They literally crawl into the cabinet and into cereal boxes, they even got into the fridge.<br>
The traps worked, and after about a month they dwindled and disappeared. It breaks my heart that I was responsible for so many deaths last year. But I can't have them bite my kids.<br>
If these natural remedies don't work, I am sick to my stomach at having to kill them. Seems like quite the conundrum here.
 

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You could try making some humane catch-and-release traps. Buy some sugar cubes at the store if you don't have any. Then, take a nice tall glass (made of glass, preferably) and fill it about 1/3 of the way full with the sugar cubes. Make sure it's a nice slippery glass, and then ensure it even more by coating the inside 1/2 inch or so of the top of the glass with a (very) thin layer of Vaseline/generic petroleum jelly. Take some old cardboard boxes (or gift boxes, or whatever - any kind of sturdy paper will do), cut them into strips, and make sort of little ramps on the outside of the glass leading to the top. Tape them securely.<br><br>
Leave this little device somewhere where you see lots of ants before bed. When you wake up in the morning, a bunch of them should be caught in the glass because they tried to get to the sugar cubes and easily climbed up the glass by way of the ramps, but couldn't get back out. Cover the glass quickly and bring the ants nice and far away from the house. Promptly dump it out and start scolding the ants (the second part of this is optional). If this doesn't keep them away forever, it will at least stall them until you can find the source of the invasion and put a piece of duct tape over it or something. That's not my area of expertise, so you might want to call someone who specializes in extermination/prevention of entry of pests. Make sure you specify you don't want them killed, but instead ask if they can help you find the source of the problem and cover it. Killing everything doesn't always work in their trade, so they have to know that.<br><br>
If the cup doesn't work, change the sugar cubes for something you usually find them snacking on in your house. Maybe leave out a couple of doctored glasses as an experiment to see what kind of food gets more ants, and use that in the future. If not sugar, then something really smelly and noticeable might work better. Some ants don't go for the sweet stuff, and I can imagine your bitey kind might rather have something they can sink their super mandibles into. This is also a wonderful way to get rid of leftovers that aren't really bad, but are kinda stale and you know you're just going to throw them out in a bit anyway because you have no use for them.<br><br>
If all else fails, and they are causing a lot of harm to you through biting and whatnot, and are making it a serious struggle to get along, then killing them may be the only option. I in no way support this, but if you find yourself faced with this, please do not bring yourself to get slow-acting glue traps or the like. They will cause an extremely slow and painful death of forced starvation, and it's not even remotely humane. Death in general isn't, but if it must happen, then don't go with the most brutal option.<br><br>
Good luck, and I hope I've helped!
 

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You could try making some humane catch-and-release traps. Buy some sugar cubes at the store if you don't have any. Then, take a nice tall glass (made of glass, preferably) and fill it about 1/3 of the way full with the sugar cubes. Make sure it's a nice slippery glass, and then ensure it even more by coating the inside 1/2 inch or so of the top of the glass with a (very) thin layer of Vaseline/generic petroleum jelly. Take some old cardboard boxes (or gift boxes, or whatever - any kind of sturdy paper will do), cut them into strips, and make sort of little ramps on the outside of the glass leading to the top. Tape them securely.<br><br>
Leave this little device somewhere where you see lots of ants before bed. When you wake up in the morning, a bunch of them should be caught in the glass because they tried to get to the sugar cubes and easily climbed up the glass by way of the ramps, but couldn't get back out. Cover the glass quickly and bring the ants nice and far away from the house. Promptly dump it out and start scolding the ants (the second part of this is optional). If this doesn't keep them away forever, it will at least stall them until you can find the source of the invasion and put a piece of duct tape over it or something. That's not my area of expertise, so you might want to call someone who specializes in extermination/prevention of entry of pests. Make sure you specify you don't want them killed, but instead ask if they can help you find the source of the problem and cover it. Killing everything doesn't always work in their trade, so they have to know that.<br><br>
If the cup doesn't work, change the sugar cubes for something you usually find them snacking on in your house. Maybe leave out a couple of doctored glasses as an experiment to see what kind of food gets more ants, and use that in the future. If not sugar, then something really smelly and noticeable might work better. Some ants don't go for the sweet stuff, and I can imagine your bitey kind might rather have something they can sink their super mandibles into. This is also a wonderful way to get rid of leftovers that aren't really bad, but are kinda stale and you know you're just going to throw them out in a bit anyway because you have no use for them.<br><br>
If all else fails, and they are causing a lot of harm to you through biting and whatnot, and are making it a serious struggle to get along, then killing them may be the only option. I in no way support this, but if you find yourself faced with this, please do not bring yourself to get slow-acting glue traps or the like. They will cause an extremely slow and painful death of forced starvation, and it's not even remotely humane. Death in general isn't, but if it must happen, then don't go with the most brutal option.<br><br>
Good luck, and I hope I've helped!</div>
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not a bad idea- reminds me of the fruit fly trap (the one with the plastic bottle and the funnel<br>
thanks vegkid!
 

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not a bad idea- reminds me of the fruit fly trap (the one with the plastic bottle and the funnel<br>
thanks vegkid!</div>
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De nada! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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We just moved into a new apartment in southern California and have tons of the little black ants in the kitchen and even the bathroom. I tried the natural things first- cayenne pepper/cinnamon everywhere but honestly they just walk right over it. I bought a bottle of Terro which has been dwindling their numbers little by little over the past week and a half. I don't feel good about it but they are on my turf and a humongous nuisance. If you do resort to poison, I and the rest of the internet recommend Terro.
 

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^^^ i think thats fair enough dude. you did the right thing, tried the non cruel methods 1st & it didnt work, so it leaves you with no option but to use that stuff basically in self defense cuz you cant have them crawling all over your apartment.
 

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We just moved into a new apartment in southern California and have tons of the little black ants in the kitchen and even the bathroom. I tried the natural things first- cayenne pepper/cinnamon everywhere but honestly they just walk right over it. I bought a bottle of Terro which has been dwindling their numbers little by little over the past week and a half. I don't feel good about it but they are on my turf and a humongous nuisance. If you do resort to poison, I and the rest of the internet <b>recommend Terro.[/</b>QUOTE]<br><br>
Are you sure ? I just googled it up and it says that it takes 48 - 36 hours for the ants to die. Wouldn't it be 'kinder' to drown them ?
 

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We just moved into a new apartment in southern California and have tons of the little black ants in the kitchen and even the bathroom. I tried the natural things first- cayenne pepper/cinnamon everywhere but honestly they just walk right over it. I bought a bottle of Terro which has been dwindling their numbers little by little over the past week and a half. I don't feel good about it but they are on my turf and a humongous nuisance. If you do resort to poison, I and the rest of the internet <b>recommend Terro.[/</b>QUOTE]<br><br>
Are you sure ? I just googled it up and it says that it takes 48 - 36 hours for the ants to die. Wouldn't it be 'kinder' to drown them ?</div>
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I have just found this on the PETA site - it could be worth trying before killing them.<br><br><a href="http://www.peta.org/issues/wildlife/ants.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.peta.org/issues/wildlife/ants.aspx</a>
 

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Yeah I think the spray just works like the cayenne, cinnamon, vinegar. All of which I tried. They Don't like it but they will find ANY way around in it. So unless you coat your entire house once a day I think they will find a way around it.<br><br>
The Terro as I understand it works by them eating it (its sugary so they go right to it), they take it back to the nest and feed it to others, after a day or so while their body is digesting it, the borax part of it creates a small amount of gas in their stomach and since they cannot pass gas they die. I don't know how exactly how they die and I don't think they combust in a fiery ant explosion. I don't really know too much about the insect nervous system tbh.<br><br>
I think when insects are in your home and pose a problem to you, you can react as you see fit. I would smash a cockroach on sight without question (thankfully we don't have any).<br><br>
Everyone defines their veganism I suppose.
 
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