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Hey guys! I'm new here on the forum but not to vegetarianism! Do you guys deal with family members or friends who say your meatless lifestyle is unhealthy? I sure do. And I am probably 10 times healthier than they are! If I say I have a head ache "Oh its because you don't eat meat" or I have been having nightmares "thats because you don't eat meat" Its so ignorant and if they only realized that vegetarian diets are way healthier than the regular american diet they would feel pretty dumb. Only thing is, I am not the type of person who will shove my beliefs down some ones throat. So while I have tried to encourage my loved ones on to being vegetarian, I don't pressure them and be the "all knowing" vegetarian that throws facts in their face. Maybe I should start using the facts to shut them up? What do you all think?
 

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I have the same problem sometimes. People munching on a nasty greasy McDonalds lecturing me about living on salads! Its due to ignorance. I've been veggie for 8 years now & never looked or felt healthier, so it's kind of hard for people that really know me to say not eating meat is harmful. Maybe they think I should have dropped dead years ago! In my experience most omnis are in STRONG denial and dont want to hear about the benefits of a meat free lifestyle. I only have to open my mouth to defend my beliefs and I get rolled eyes, even if THEY asked me the question!<br>
Just lead by example, and dont get down when people question whether you're getting the right nutrition. YOU know the truth. You're right not to lecture as it will just alienate people. Have you tried cooking a tasty veggie meal for them? When they see how good it is & it doesnt kill them, it might be a step in the right direction!
 

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This.<br><br>
It's much easier to marginalize your beliefs than to look at their own.
 

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I go through this quite a bit. Stay strong, know your facts, and keep doing what you are doing. I've found it best to laugh about the light-hearted veggie jokes, answer sincere questions with sincere answers, and answer a$$hole questions with a sincere [email protected] off! :)
 

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haha thanks guys! I have cooked vegetarian meals for my mom, who never hated on my lifestyle but wanted to make sure I was healthy and she loved them! Ever since I have been vegetarian she eats much less meat. She still eats meat at lunch at work, but our dinners are always meatless thanks to my vegetarianism. I usually just respond to "haters" with a laugh. They are often just trying to mess with me. But when they start trying to tell me I am unhealthy that makes me angry. I make sure I get my proper nutrition and I work out. I am healthier than all of the haters, who enjoy sucking down greasy burgers while I eat some fresh steamed veggies. I think it is almost like they know they don't have the discipline but instead of admitting it, they hate and say they are healthier by eating meat.
 

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I'm not sure if its a lack of discipline or an underlying, often subconscious, hatred of life or fear of getting old.<br>
Unlike most cultures over the millennia, western culture worships youth and devalues advanced age. The wisdom and skill of the aged are not respected. So perhaps knowing the end of their mindlessly cherished youth is nearing or passed induces a self destructive mind state which at some level they know will lead to their early death.<br>
If they are at all conscious of any of that then seeing someone who has cured themself of that mental illness could easily lead to envy or anger.<br>
In any event they are not exercising a healthy and productive way of relating to the world.<br><br>
Thats one possibility, there are likely many other origins of haters. I just dont like to think that the clear majority of any vastly large group of people are that way purely because they are simply undisciplined or blindly ignorant, lol.
 

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eating meat is already one thing, but to say so while eating MacDonald's? I'd be laughing too hard to give a rebuttal
 

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Hey guys! I'm new here on the forum but not to vegetarianism! Do you guys deal with family members or friends who say your meatless lifestyle is unhealthy? I sure do. And I am probably 10 times healthier than they are! If I say I have a head ache "Oh its because you don't eat meat" or I have been having nightmares "thats because you don't eat meat" Its so ignorant and if they only realized that vegetarian diets are way healthier than the regular american diet they would feel pretty dumb. Only thing is, I am not the type of person who will shove my beliefs down some ones throat. So while I have tried to encourage my loved ones on to being vegetarian, I don't pressure them and be the "all knowing" vegetarian that throws facts in their face. Maybe I should start using the facts to shut them up? What do you all think?</div>
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I present them with facts to contrary.
 

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I try not to be the "know it all" with the facts, but heck maybe it is time to start if they don't back off. I do get the occasional "Wow thats great, I wish I was that disciplined" And even my friends dad who is a hunter said "Yeah its true that vegetarianism is a much healthier lifestyle and we would all be better off to be vegetarian" At least they can acknowledge that vegetarianism is healthy, but they just aren't disciplined enough. I have much more respect for that than for someone who wont research into it and just automatically assumes I don't get enough nutrients. Although my partner is not vegetarian, he understands the importance of animal welfare and their quality of life, so we are discussing when we have children in the future how I would like to raise them vegetarian. I am not looking forward to what either side of our families will say about that. But then again, they are uneducated.
 

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^Period. = true life<br><br>
If it wasn't this (and one day it won't be) they would be annoying you about something else.
 

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My mother has done this a few times. Months ago I got a rash, and she immediately suggested that it was because I wasn't eating meat. She kept insisting that must be the reason even after it was obvious that it was an allergic reaction to a band-aid adhesive. (It was shaped like the band-aid!) Based on her attitude towards veg*nism, I think it's safe to assume that she will continue to say weird things like this for the rest of her life. She just thinks meat is a necessity for optimum health. I've given up on changing her mind. She is way too brain washed.
 

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My dad does that. It's annoying, but when I point out facts and studies to the contrary, he just keeps making jokes.<br><br>
So I've turned it back on him. Now, whenever he doesn't feel well, I say, "Must be all that meat you're eating." Headache? Too much meat. Tired? Too much meat. Stubbed your toe? Too much meat! (Yup, the last one really happened. Made everyone laugh <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> )<br><br>
It's turned into a good-natured joke between us. He told me once in a rare, sincere moment that he really respects how I'm taking good care of my body, so his feelings about it must have changed at some point. Maybe once I made it past the first few months and I didn't die of malnutrition...
 

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haha some of the replies made me laugh! I think I will turn it on them. "Oh your tired, you must be eating too much meat." I think most people just get defensive. They automatically think you are calling them out when you make a healthier and more humane food choice. I think they also know how corrupt the meat industry is now but don't want to face it and give up meat so they try to say we are unhealthy.
 
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