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Animal Treatment at County Fair

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I just wanted to talk about my fair experience that I had the other day.

My favorite thing to do at our county fair every year is to go and see the animals. They always have barns set up with animals in them (rabbits, pigs, cows, ect...) I've never really liked the conditions that these animals are in. They're basically stuffed in cages all day in hot buildings. There are big fans, but they're hardly any help. In the rabbit building, the rabbits were laying in their cages, breathing rather quickly. Sometimes there would be three rabbits to a cage. (I believe all the animals there are for some kind of contest. There's always ribbons on the cages). On the floor of the building, there were some rabbits in cages that were as big as the rabbits themselves. All they could do was lay down in them.

I also noticed something else for the first time. The labels on the two buildings for the cows were "Dairy" and "Beef." When my boyfriend and I went to go see the pigs he commented, "I'm surprised it's not labeled 'Bacon.'"

Random Comment: Also, people always tell me that it doesn't hurt an animal to pick them up by the scruff of the neck, but it has always bothered me to see this done and I never liked doing it myself. The rabbits were being picked up like that.

Another incident that occurred involved "fainting" goats. To feed them, you had to pay a dollar. My boyfriend and I were standing next to the pen they were in, and we fed them a little grass through the wire. The guy who was watching the goats let these two girls in (they had to be about age 11-13, and I'm assuming he knew them somehow). I was surprised and angered when these girls began to scare the goats. The guy would point at a goat and say "No, try that one." So the girls would run after the goats and scream at them, and naturally the goats would run away. Finally, I yelled, "How about you leave the goats alone?" And the girl I had yelled at just stopped and gave me this dumbstruck look. The guy who had let them in told me, "It's alright. They're fainting goats. When you scare them they faint. It doesn't hurt them. I promise." The guy that was handling the ponies (ya know, the pony circle dealies where they just walk in a circle so kids can ride them?) noticed that we were feeding the goats through the wire and told us that if we wanted to feed the goats we had to pay a dollar. We walked away and Mark made the comment, "So you have to pay to feed them, but people are allowed to go in there and scare them for free?" So the girls continued to terrorize the goats for a little while after that. It was annoying.

I don't understand. Why would you want to make an animal afraid of you? Why make an animal fear you? So you can get a kick out of seeing the animal "faint?" Am I making too big of a deal out of this? This year at the fair was an eye opener for me, though. Animals cramped in small cages, row after row, in hot buildings. Some had very dirty water by the way. And all just to show off a ribbon...(though some geese made a point to completely rip the ribbons hanging from their cage in half which was entertaining). It made me compare it to how animals are treated in testing labs or factory farms. And then seeing the tags in the cows' ears sheeps' ears...just numbers here for our entertainment. I also wonder about the ponies just walking around in a circle all day. Do they get water or food? Do they get a break?

Just wanted to tell about that day and see what you would think of it. Anyone else have a similar experience?
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A country fair is not the place for vegetarians. You need to remember these fairs roots are in the business of raising animals for food. The corresponding attitude which goes with that is prevelant.

A few years ago I went to a fair in NJ and saw the dairy cows. It only then occured to me how they keep getting milk from them and what happens when they no longer produce. Needless to say, it was the last time I went to that fair.
The vast majority of animals you see at a county fair are raised by children in teens in 4-H, FFA, and similar farming clubs. The animals are raised for the express purpose of being sold for slaughter at the fair's conclusion. On the last day of the fair, the animals will be shipped to meat processors.

The animals are also judged according to several standards that supposedly indicate they will yield good-quality food products. An animal that wins "Grand Champion" or similar ribbon will earn his/her owner more money when the animal is purchased for slaughter.

So, it is not surprising to see such things at a county fair. County fairs are intimately tied to the agriculture community, and thus the point of view that sees animals as objects and commodities. At a county fair, you will typically see other shows and displays which also advance this viewpoint: live animals given as game prizes, rodeos, circus-style shows, pony pulls, animal chasing and catching contests, and hunting/fishing/or trapping dispays.
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Well i know it's not onthe same scale as what you saw, but at the fair that comes to my town, they have the goldfish as prizes, you know the ones in tiny plastic bags in the heat all day then a lil kid wins it and does god knows what with it.

Well i wrote to my local representative telling him how displeased i was with the whole thing, and he wrote to someone in the government devision for animal welfare, and i've been getting letters back and forth, and they're gonna tell the RSPCA about it to do checks to see if the fishes welfare is being looked after (obviously it's not). But yeah i don't know if it will ban them being sold as prizes but i tried.

So maybe you could write to your local representative?? About the animals in unsiutable cage sizes. I know you think they probably won't do anything, but if they know members of the public are upset about it they have to do something, at least reply to your letter.

I hope you try.
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I went to a Georgia state fair once and the stuff I saw (animals and people!) was pretty disturbing. : (
That's terrible. I hate it when people try and justify animal abuse by saying "it doesn't hurt them". When peolple say that about non-human animals they only mean physically, doesn't seem to matter to them whether the animals are being hurt mentally by being screamed at and chased around.

How about we chase him around with an axe, pretending we're going to kill him? Then after he faints from shock we can justify it by saying "Oh well, we didn't hurt him"
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Yeah! I like the plan too. Take me along and I'll start the first chase.
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There's only one reason to turn up at the county fair: getting thrown out for 5-H leafleting.
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I used to go into those buildings when I was young, my parents always said that they didn't hurt the animals and they went back to farms when the fair was over. When I got old enough to realize what was really going on I went in the building anyways, they seemed to be treated good but I cried all the way through and I have never returned to one. And the poor ponies always seemed so unhappy, I hope they are all given water.
Sounds a lot like the 4-H fair I used to go to. Rabbits, chickens, guinea pigs, roosters, etc in small wire cages all day with only fans to cool them under a hot tent. They also had cows, pigs, sheep, horses, etc.

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Yeah! I like the plan too. Take me along and I'll start the first chase.
LOL, count me in too!

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I also wonder about the ponies just walking around in a circle all day. Do they get water or food? Do they get a break?
I do believe they are given a break every few hours to drink/eat while another pony takes its place, but all the same, walking in a circle has to be pretty boring. I wonder if a pony ever bucked off a kid out of boredom??
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Veggie4life: That would definitely be an interesting thing to see.
I play in a band who have gigs at a county show... the parade of animals makes me sad... all these animals with rings through their noses being pulled around to be looked at. All they are to the people there is food, nothing more. I refuse to go into the poultry barn.. it's disgusting in there. I don't understand it i guess.
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There's only one reason to turn up at the county fair: getting thrown out for 5-H leafleting.
There's another reason to turn up at a county fair: You work for the newspaper that covers the fair. One fair I have the *ahem* privilege of covering is notoriously hard to find stories at, so I've been thinking of doing a story about how 4-H leaders and parents prepare their kids to be separated from the animals they've worked hard to show. Especially the little kids may get fairly attached, so I'm sure they have to do some kind of "This is how the fair works, so don't get too upset when a company buys your goat or turkey at the auction. Just be glad it went for an above-market-value price."
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There's another reason to turn up at a county fair: You work for the newspaper that covers the fair.
My job is just to cover the junior fair portion (meaning, all the animal stuff and not much else). And this year they wanted me to take pictures of all the grand champion animals with their owners.
I countered that by taking all my unassigned shots of the pet classes and non-animal events, but I wasn't happy about it. At least I avoided working at the auction this year.
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I just wanted to talk about my fair experience that I had the other day.

My favorite thing to do at our county fair every year is to go and see the animals. They always have barns set up with animals in them (rabbits, pigs, cows, ect...) I've never really liked the conditions that these animals are in. They're basically stuffed in cages all day in hot buildings. There are big fans, but they're hardly any help. In the rabbit building, the rabbits were laying in their cages, breathing rather quickly. Sometimes there would be three rabbits to a cage. (I believe all the animals there are for some kind of contest. There's always ribbons on the cages). On the floor of the building, there were some rabbits in cages that were as big as the rabbits themselves. All they could do was lay down in them.

I also noticed something else for the first time. The labels on the two buildings for the cows were "Dairy" and "Beef." When my boyfriend and I went to go see the pigs he commented, "I'm surprised it's not labeled 'Bacon.'"

Random Comment: Also, people always tell me that it doesn't hurt an animal to pick them up by the scruff of the neck, but it has always bothered me to see this done and I never liked doing it myself. The rabbits were being picked up like that.

Another incident that occurred involved "fainting" goats. To feed them, you had to pay a dollar. My boyfriend and I were standing next to the pen they were in, and we fed them a little grass through the wire. The guy who was watching the goats let these two girls in (they had to be about age 11-13, and I'm assuming he knew them somehow). I was surprised and angered when these girls began to scare the goats. The guy would point at a goat and say "No, try that one." So the girls would run after the goats and scream at them, and naturally the goats would run away. Finally, I yelled, "How about you leave the goats alone?" And the girl I had yelled at just stopped and gave me this dumbstruck look. The guy who had let them in told me, "It's alright. They're fainting goats. When you scare them they faint. It doesn't hurt them. I promise." The guy that was handling the ponies (ya know, the pony circle dealies where they just walk in a circle so kids can ride them?) noticed that we were feeding the goats through the wire and told us that if we wanted to feed the goats we had to pay a dollar. We walked away and Mark made the comment, "So you have to pay to feed them, but people are allowed to go in there and scare them for free?" So the girls continued to terrorize the goats for a little while after that. It was annoying.

I don't understand. Why would you want to make an animal afraid of you? Why make an animal fear you? So you can get a kick out of seeing the animal "faint?" Am I making too big of a deal out of this? This year at the fair was an eye opener for me, though. Animals cramped in small cages, row after row, in hot buildings. Some had very dirty water by the way. And all just to show off a ribbon...(though some geese made a point to completely rip the ribbons hanging from their cage in half which was entertaining). It made me compare it to how animals are treated in testing labs or factory farms. And then seeing the tags in the cows' ears sheeps' ears...just numbers here for our entertainment. I also wonder about the ponies just walking around in a circle all day. Do they get water or food? Do they get a break?

Just wanted to tell about that day and see what you would think of it. Anyone else have a similar experience?
i think the guy actually meant "its alright because we think its funny"



oh yeah, good for you for getting after the little brats for harassing the goats.somebody had to do it
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Punk_in_Drublic: Rings through their noses? Bleh. I'm assuming they're pulled by the rings in their noses? Just thinking about that makes my nose feel funny.
Another reason not to attend a fair.

I hate fairs >_>
I enjoy county fairs I just avoid the animal area.
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My job is just to cover the junior fair portion (meaning, all the animal stuff and not much else). And this year they wanted me to take pictures of all the grand champion animals with their owners.
I countered that by taking all my unassigned shots of the pet classes and non-animal events, but I wasn't happy about it. At least I avoided working at the auction this year.
Funny, a good portion of the junior fair I just covered is non-animal. I'm sure it varies from place to place what kids do in 4-H.

My story was on today's front page, about how some kids take it hard when they sell their animals, and others don't mind as much. I started off by talking about a 10-year-old girl getting in quality time with her goat on Wednesday before the goat is sold in the auction on Thursday. (I'm not sure why the editors held my story till today; I turned it in Wednesday.) A man called me today to ask if he could buy her goat and give him back to her.
Only problem is, the auction was yesterday evening, so I don't know if it's too late. I gave him some phone numbers to call and wished him the best. I know the little girl would be thrilled to get her goat back.

Now if only the auction ended altogether, we might be getting somewhere.
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