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Hi!<br><br><br><br>
Yesterday I was watching E.T. with my kids, which I haven't seen since <i>I</i> was a kid. Does anyone remember the part when Eliot was in science class and they had all of the frogs in the jars? They were getting ready to "put them to sleep" so they could cut them open and Eliot set them all free. What a great movie. Who knew E.T. had and anti vivisection message? Well I guess the scientists wanting to experiment on E.T. ties in with that but I'm not sure if it really counts because he's an alien. hmmmm... maybe we should be worried about the rights of extraterrestrials as well as animals...<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/dizzy2.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":dizzy:"> (just kidding <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
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Considering that we live in a culture where omni values dominate, I'm always surprised by the amount of pro-animal values on display in popular movies.<br><br><br><br>
This is even more surprising when the movies are "ahead of the curve" -- long before any organized groups take up the cause being advocated.
 

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I just watched Charlotte's Web and was rather amazed by the Paramount- produced, special features on the DVD.<br><br><br><br>
Especially the extra titled "Where are they now?" It's a detailed segment that explains how all of the Wilburs went to sanctuaries and other lifelong, no-kill homes. The segment profiles farm sanctuaries, and the directors make several strong statements about how pigs love life and do not want to be killed.<br><br><br><br>
At the end, the websites of several animal advocacy websites are advertised, including <a href="http://www.animalsaustralia.org/" target="_blank">http://www.animalsaustralia.org/</a> and <a href="http://www.savebabe.com/" target="_blank">http://www.savebabe.com/</a> .<br><br><br><br>
This really surprised me, coming from the huge corporate maw of Viacom and Paramount. *sigh* If only they hadn't struck up a fast-food deal...
 

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my favourite animal-friendly film is <i>Fly Away Home</i>.<br><br>
okay, okay, I admit it. <b>My favourite film</b> is <i>Fly Away Home</i>.<br><br><br><br>
As much as my friends and family think it is a TERRIBLE film, I love it. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smitten.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":smitten:"> & it's quite AR-y, but not preachy <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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Kate, I've never seen that one. I'll have to rent it to watch with the kids this weekend. Thanks!<br><br><br><br>
Peace, You are are so right! It is suprising to see AR in movies where you would never expect it. I think also I am more aware of it since I've become vegan . I notice "AR-y" things I never did when I was omni.<br><br>
We saw Charlotte's Web in the theater so I guess I need to rent it now so I can check out the special features. That sounds so cool !Thanks!<br><br><br><br>
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Yeah but were the frogs hurt in the making of the film? That's what I want to know. I mean throwing them out the window and shouting and flicking at them with your fingers is hardly in the animal husbandry rule book.
 

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Huh... That's true Benji, I wasn't even thinking about what actually happened to the frogs in real life while they were taping the movie. The froggies looked happy all hopping away to "freedom" in the movie (E.T.) but we don't know what kind of conditions they were kept when the cameras were off or what happened to them when they were done taping the movie. I guess this is why most animal rights acivistst don't watch any movies with animal "actors" in them.<br><br>
Very thought provoking Benji, thanks! It's great when you can look at something at a totally different perspective. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/notworthy.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":wayne:"><br><br><br><br>
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Isn't there an AR group that controls whether or not movies are allowed to put the "No animals were harmed in the making of this movie" message in their credits? Does ET have that message?<br><br><br><br>
--Fromper<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/juggle.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":juggle:">
 

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No there's nothing in the credits except that the "animal talent" was provided my Dennis Grisco Animals. I googled this but I only found a mailing address, no website or email address....<br><br>
I don't want to know badly enough to send a letter through sail mail so we may never know the fate of all thoes cute little froggies...<br><br><br><br>
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It's not an AR group. It's an org funded by the Screen Actors Guild called American Humane. They monitor animal use on sets. My impression is that they are not always that effective when it comes to protecting animals.
 

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It's easy enough to say that animals weren't harmed <i>physically</i> during the making of a movie but what about the kind of stress they are put under? I mean big groups of people often yelling and running around, intense heat in studios and on-set under those lights. Also scenes are rarely shot in one take which means a lot of time on-set for the animals or if they have breaks, a lot of time transporting animals from set, into containers/pens whatever.
 
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