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so yea noone understands me and i'm so sick of doing this alone. i'm just tired of it all. i dont see the point i really dont. i'm so isolated in life and my own family and closest friends dont respect my decisions and dont see me for who i am.<br><br><br><br>
holidays suck. they really do. i wish that people would just leave me alone during them and not remind me. they trigger so many bad memories. and on top of all of that everyone is wishing me a happy turkey day. well its not so freaking happy for the turkeys is it?<br><br><br><br>
i know im supposed to be happy today and thankful but i fail to see anything to be thankful about. i fail to see how a holiday built around the murder of a race that welcomed us to their land is something to be thankful about. i fail to see why people think its right to murder animals to celebrate. i just dont understand and noone understands me.<br><br><br><br>
this isnt a cry out for help. its just a cry for attention. yea thats it. thats all i want is to draw more attention to myself. thats why i 'lied' about my uncle yea attention. thats why i dont tell anyone too much about myself because i want attention. i hate people.
 

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It's okay to want attention.<br><br><br><br>
Thanksgiving is only celebrated in the United States. So just think of all the millions of people who are NOT celebrating and become one of THEM in your heart.<br><br><br><br>
No-one needs to celebrate something they think sucks.<br><br><br><br>
Stick to your guns. You're ALLOWED to be different.<br><br><br><br>
((((((Lani))))))
 

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I understand, I don't like Thanksgiving for what it is. I use it to be thankful for my family, my loved ones and everything that I have. I also use it to mourn the loss of many animals unnecessarily. It is a hard day all around I think, but stick to your guns and realize that you are not alone, even if you feel that way. Try to smile and think of who you love and what you love. Many hugs to you... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smitten.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":smitten:">
 

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Hi, yours is the first thread i've read here! sounds like your having a ****e time.<br><br>
being vegan can be isolating from the main stream, but its a choice you have made (for very good reasons as far as animals and other veg*ns are concerned) you can only hope to understand and accept your own actions and nobody elses, that may sound tough but if you worry a bit about your self you'll be able to stand strong. you are not alone<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I'm sorry you feel that way. :hugs:<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hug:"><br><br><br><br>
Focusing on the history and food of Thanksgiving is depressing. But focusing on what you have to be thankful for, is what the holiday is about. Helping other people (and animals) is what it's about. See if you can volunteer your energies helping the homeless today.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hug:"> thats to make you feel warm and fuzzy<br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/dancingbanana.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":nana:"> dancing nana is to make you smile<br><br><br><br>
I second what Diana said. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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i know im supposed to be happy today and thankful but i fail to see anything to be thankful about.</div>
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Well read William S. Burroughs's the <i>Thanksgiving prayer</i> and you understand why you should be thankful <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/wink3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=";)">:<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">Thanks for the wild turkey and<br><br>
the passenger pigeons, destined<br><br>
to be **** out through wholesome<br><br>
American guts.<br><br><br><br>
Thanks for a continent to despoil<br><br>
and poison.<br><br><br><br>
Thanks for Indians to provide a<br><br>
modicum of challenge and<br><br>
danger.<br><br><br><br>
Thanks for vast herds of bison to<br><br>
kill and skin leaving the<br><br>
carcasses to rot.<br><br><br><br>
Thanks for bounties on wolves<br><br>
and coyotes.<br><br><br><br>
Thanks for the American dream,<br><br>
To vulgarize and to falsify until<br><br>
the bare lies shine through.<br><br><br><br>
Thanks for the KKK.<br><br><br><br>
For n***er-killin' lawmen,<br><br>
feelin' their notches.<br><br><br><br>
For decent church-goin' women,<br><br>
with their mean, pinched, bitter,<br><br>
evil faces.<br><br><br><br>
Thanks for "Kill a Queer for<br><br>
Christ" stickers.<br><br><br><br>
Thanks for laboratory AIDS.<br><br><br><br>
Thanks for Prohibition and the<br><br>
war against drugs.<br><br><br><br>
Thanks for a country where<br><br>
nobody's allowed to mind the<br><br>
own business.<br><br><br><br>
Thanks for a nation of finks.<br><br><br><br>
Yes, thanks for all the<br><br>
memories-- all right let's see<br><br>
your arms!<br><br><br><br>
You always were a headache and<br><br>
you always were a bore.<br><br><br><br>
Thanks for the last and greatest<br><br>
betrayal of the last and greatest<br><br>
of human dreams.</div>
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I feel your pain. I grew up on a farm. You can only imagine how my family reacted when I first told my them I no longer wanted to eat meat. It took them years to accept that this is who I am now.<br><br><br><br>
There are three stages of truth: 1. ridicule. 2. violent opposition. 3. acceptance. It sounds like your friends and family are still in the ridicule and opposition stages. Rest assured that they will eventually accept you. It will take time, but they will.<br><br><br><br>
Until then, be strong. You are not alone. You are never alone. You may not see us, but we are out here cheering for you. You ARE making a difference.<br><br><br><br>
A little fact about thanksgiving that I heard on the radio. It did not begin in the US with turkeys. Long before the pilgrims, the pagans celebrated the season of harvest. Their symbol, still used today, was a cornucopia (cone shaped basket) filled with fruits and vegetables.<br><br><br><br>
Hang in there.<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sunny.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":sunny:">
 

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I wanted to thank everyone for the kind words. I'm really sorry for bringing my depression in here. My hormones are just a bit out of control right now and I get a bit over dramatic at times :-|<br><br><br><br>
It's not just the vegan thing depressing me around the holidays though. Something very traumatic happened about 16 years ago around this time involving my uncle that I'm not going to go into details about so I'm also having to deal with that. And I'm also having a huge identity crisis and burst into tears whenever I look in the mirror. I'm just a mess.<br><br><br><br>
I really do apologize though. I made it through it though. The impossible part is going to be making it through christmas *sigh*
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hug:"> Hang in there, and if you ever need to talk I'm only a pm away <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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It sounds like you have a lot on your mind. You shouldn't have to go through that alone. Is there someone you can talk to? Do you have health insurance? Maybe your doctor can recommend a therapist that your insurance will cover. If that isn't an option, then can you talk to a member of the clergy? Are you taking any college classes? If so, you can talk to a counselor at school.<br><br><br><br>
There is nothing wrong with seeking out a shoulder to cry on. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hug:"><br><br><br><br>
I also had a very bad experience with a family member when I was about 12 years old. It was 2 days after Christmas and the day before my birthday. The next day when my mom was frosting my birthday cake, I told her what had happened. She told me not to say anything. I thought she didn't believe me so I never told anyone else. About 15 years after that, my mom confessed that she she did believe me but she was trying to protect a 3rd family member who would have been hurt if the truth had gotten out. She said that since "nothing really happened" that she originally thought it best to stay quiet. In my mind there is a big difference between "nothing happening" and something almost happening. It took a long time to get over that. It still bothers me sometimes.<br><br><br><br>
I hope that story didn't depress you more. I just wanted to let you know that you are not alone. Maybe what happened to you was completely different. It just caught my attention when you said no one believed you about what happened with your uncle. I know what it feels like to think no one will believe you.<br><br><br><br>
If you need to talk, about anything at all, pm me. (That invitation is open to anyone.)<br><br><br><br>
Hang in there. I'm sending you love and sunshine. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smitten.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":smitten:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sunny.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":sunny:">
 

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The holidays can suck for a lot of people. I understand. I went from feeling fine to feeling super depressed since last Sunday. There is a lot going on in my life, and I want to talk to people, but I don't want to bug them, especially around the holidays. Plus New Year's Eve, on which I usually do nothing, would be the 3rd anniversary of my now defunct relationship. So holidays are hard for people even much older than you at times. Even when there is nothing to be depressed about.<br><br><br><br>
Many families can be more understanding over time. Since adults know that there are young people who go through stages, they unfortunately probably have that bias against you. All you can do is prove them wrong and stick with it. A few years seems like a long time now, but in a few years, they will probably take you more seriously.<br><br><br><br>
I like to look at the pictures of the <a href="http://www.adoptaturkey.com/photos.htm" target="_blank">Annual Farm Sanctuary Celebration for the Turkeys</a>. They feed a feast to their rescued turkeys around Thanksgiving. Just be careful not to click on the link to industry photos if you don't want to get more depressed. Also see <a href="http://www.adoptaturkey.org/rescue.htm" target="_blank">http://www.adoptaturkey.org/rescue.htm</a> for stories with positive endings.<br><br><br><br>
I second seeking out a counselor of some sort that you can talk to, especially about whatever happened with your uncle. No one should feel like they aren't allowed to speak the truth because they are a teen.
 

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I second seeking out a counselor of some sort that you can talk to, especially about whatever happened with your uncle. No one should feel like they aren't allowed to speak the truth because they are a teen.</div>
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Thalia, I don't think Lani is a teen. The profile says age 26. That means the event with the uncle happened around the age of 10. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sick.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":sick:"> Lani has apparently been hurting for a very long time.<br><br><br><br>
Our thoughts and prayers are with you Lani.
 

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Thalia, I don't think Lani is a teen. The profile says age 26. That means the event with the uncle happened around the age of 10. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sick.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":sick:"> Lani has apparently been hurting for a very long time.<br><br><br><br>
Our thoughts and prayers are with you Lani.</div>
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Whoops, sorry about that. I'm so used to the family problems between parents and teens.<br><br>
Lani- I hope things get better.
 

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<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hi.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hi:"> my heart goes out to you , <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hug:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hug:"> you are definetely not alone<br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/elf.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":elf:">
 
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