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This just cracked me up. Windows is truly such a piece of crap.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.aros.net/~mstahnky/humor/Non-Car%20Related/Windows%20Blue%20Screen%20at%20Airport.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.aros.net/~mstahnky/humor/...%20Airport.jpg</a>
 

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I could see that happening. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br>
It makes you wonder about the computers inside the planes though.
 

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Yeah.<br><br><br><br>
Quite honestly, I do not trust anything whatsoever if its powered by anything to do with Microsoft. For example, I'd never shop on a site and enter credit card information if the thing is powered by a "secure" Microsoft web server. You simply cannot use the words secure and Microsoft in the same sentence.
 

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Hehehe ... must have been running windows 98<br><br><br><br>
If anyone has never seen the following short movie clip, it is quite funny. It shows Gates years ago on-stage with a microsoft spokes-person demonstrating Windows98 to a crowd <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> ... they are interupted by the dreaded blue-screen of death in front of everyone<br><br><br><br><a href="http://alt.venus.co.uk/weed/humour/gates30.mov" target="_blank">http://alt.venus.co.uk/weed/humour/gates30.mov</a><br><br><br><br>
(needs apple's quicktime player <a href="http://www.apple.com/quicktime/" target="_blank">http://www.apple.com/quicktime/</a> )
 

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Hey you dk_art AND Robert AND anyone,<br><br>
.................................................. ........ I seriously would like to ASK your help/assistance/advice/ etc please in knowing whether you could help me to kick windows (thru my window!) some fine day!<br><br>
.....as I don't know any better but to <i>have</i> to use it (at the moment), BUT I am willing to try something like LINUX if I were suddenly to aquire some of the cool knowhow that maybe ones like you pair might find appropiate to kickstart me on....<br><br>
Do you think LINUX is my best option??... I sure guess so, I think its far more principled than MicroSoft, so do you think Linux is the best thing for me to go for to move onto??? OR maybe something else, again/other?....<br><br><br><br>
I would appreciate your comments as I mostly suck at computing.
 

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"Hey you dk_art .... I seriously would like to ASK your help/assistance/advice/ etc please in knowing whether you could help me to kick windows (thru my window!) some fine day! "<br><br>
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Hmmm, well personally I use WindowsXP and love it. It's definately the most stable windows I've used (ie, less errors, no or extremely few total system freezes, few or no bluescreens I can remember in like a year and a half.)<br><br><br><br>
However, Windows98 was incredibly frustrating and that film of Gates onstage with the bluescreen is so fitting IMHO.<br><br><br><br>
I'd go for WindowsXP (I use home ... pro didn't offer anything more I wanted)<br><br><br><br>
As for supporting a company based on what you said about "more principled than MicroSoft" , I'd suggest getting an Apple.<br><br><br><br>
Steve Jobs of Apple is a long time vegan, has come up with far more better ideas than Gates has (IMHO).<br><br><br><br>
I've never had an Apple, though, and as far as graphics-work goes, their time of obvious supremacy over a PC has passed (In my opinion). I would like to get an Apple but it's just too expensive for the hardware and I don't have the need (all my software is for windows anyway). If the apple operating system worked on PC hardware, that would be cool. I'd try it in a flash<br><br><br><br>
I don't think Gates is anywhere near being evil. He's given millions of dollars to libraries, schools and other social avenues. I personally don't find buying microsoft products to be supporting a less principled company than anyone else.<br><br><br><br>
I know nothing about Linux. Have never tried it ... personally not interested. My software needs windows anyway and XP is so stable, I have no need to try anything else.
 

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DK: I actually use Windows 98... and lost what little faith I had left in Microsoft. It's a piece of crap.<br><br><br><br>
I know a lot of folks use XP and find it stable and like it. For me I refuse to use it (for several reasons). I'll use an etch-a-sketch before I allow XP on any machine I own.<br><br><br><br>
My next puter will be a MAC. I'm just not thrilled about having to purchase PhotoShop all over again for a new platform (it's an expensive piece of software here in Canada).<br><br><br><br>
We use Linux on our web servers. I made the mistake of using NT for a webserver OS a few years ago.<br><br><br><br>
Quite honestly though, if you're looking for an alternative, consider getting a MAC. Linux is a great OS, and very fast, and really stable... but it just will not appeal to most mainstream users as it does not have the same sort of interface most folks are used to with Windows.
 

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"I'm just not thrilled about having to purchase PhotoShop all over again for a new platform (it's an expensive piece of software here in Canada)."<br><br>
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Interestingly , you made me think of how my Corel Painter8 upgrade I just got had both the Mac and the windows in the same box ( on the same disks). I think that's a great thing which would solve these issues if people ever switched systems.<br><br><br><br>
You could pay $279.99 Canadian at Futureshop for the Photoshop upgrade (still a big chunk but not the $1000 for buying it outright :O ). Surely an upgrade would be applicable in this case.
 

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DK: yeah, that's a good idea. But I'm not sure it would work. The guys at the place here that sells Photoshop told me that license's are non-transferrable per platform, and the upgrades will search the current puter for a valid license code. Since I only own a license for the PC version, and do not own a License for the MAC version.. I would be unable to upgrade if I purchased a MAC.<br><br><br><br>
I absolutely agree that software should be cross-platform. At the very least, provide installation disks for both common platforms as Corel obviously does. Hmm, that's interesting with Corel. I'm rather impressed that they do that.
 

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Thanks dk_art AND Robert...<br><br><br><br>
Lets see where we go from here, in this techy thread... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br>
Thanks for not going in too deep too early both of you!! haha!!<br><br>
My head would explode!!! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"><br><br><br><br>
I'm sure at least SOME of each of your respective opinions on whats best (such as what is and what ain't " principled") has<br><br>
its place etc, even for those like me whom currently have XP and daren't make any too hasty moves onto anything new too soon (being a <i>relatively</i> PC beginner) but of course it rarely ever stops me being interested in other options (ie OperatingSystems) etc and who knows something might convince me to try Linux sooner than I might have otherwise predicted, so there ya go, I still think Linux is my most likley next choice although I must admit<br><br>
I do have stacks to learn before I can FULLY seriously go for that, as much as I would like to jump straight on in there now to try it... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> so then naturally I could use a friend I can go see in the UK<br><br>
whom has Linux ideally to check it all out and be introduced to the<br><br>
way it all works (with my own eyes) to get a rundown on the full possibilities what it can do that other systems perhaps can't(?) maybe... and hey AT LEAST Linux is Open Source which is the best thing!!.........and as for Apple/Mac, I have no idea whether I could afford that or whether I would be competent to use it. This is why I figure I might as well play around with Linux for what its worth as it is I think free from most expenses compared to other computer company systems.<br><br><br><br>
Thanks again both... each in your respective ways!!
 

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Ferti, there is indeed a GUI for Linux, its just not as "pretty" as the one which comes with XP, which is basically a MAC interface to begin with anyway.<br><br><br><br>
I agree with you about Linux and I am a big supporter of the Open Source community. You could always create a dual boot system for yourself and use RedHat Linux on a different partition to play with it a bit.<br><br><br><br>
Alternatively, you could give somethng like Lindows a try:<br><br><a href="http://www.lindows.com" target="_blank">http://www.lindows.com</a><br><br><br><br>
**I've not tried Lindows nor do I know anyone who has. So its best to do some research via Usenet and other websites/forums before making the leap.<br><br><br><br>
Linux itself has a lot of software available for use on it, from commercial apps to free open source apps. I just don't see Linux becoming a big player in the home desktop area though until it can provide the same "pretty" interface and compatibility with popular software programs.<br><br><br><br>
For me, I just truly despise the dummied-down interface that apps like WinXP ships with. It looks like a toy you'd give an infant with stuff like those oversized "fisher-price" style graphics and smileys, for example.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Robert</i><br><br><b>You could always create a dual boot system for yourself and use RedHat Linux on a different partition to play with it a bit.<br><br><br><br>
Alternatively, you could give somethng like Lindows a try:<br><br><a href="http://www.lindows.com" target="_blank">http://www.lindows.com</a><br><br><br><br>
**I've not tried Lindows nor do I know anyone who has. So its best to do some research via Usenet and other websites/forums before making the leap.</b></div>
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Yeah, I'm aware of these already because I think I'm right in saying "Redhat Linux" & the "Lindows" thing are amongst the<br><br>
most familiar and widely used platforms (of their type) etc... but other than that I really haven't done much research, but I will inbetween doing other stuff. The dual system thing seems like<br><br>
a good idea and I've heard other people "successfully" (I think) doing that! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br>
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<b><br></b>LOL ...to the over-sized infantile fisher price (appearance) jesty comparison <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/grin.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":D"> I heard equally funny quips about it myself!! hehe
 

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I'm pretty happy since switching to Mac last year. Very few complaints compared to when I was using a PC for 18 years.
 
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