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my brother keeps asking me why i dont ever eat HFCS and well to be honest i never really have a good answer. then i told him about agave nectar and he didnt believe there was a big difference between HFCS and agave nectar because he said they both where primarly fructose. so again i was stumped. is there a big difference between the 2? if so, what are the differences.
 

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whats HFCS? sorry not sure what that means <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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HFCS = High Frutcose Corn Syrup<br><br><br><br><br><br>
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Here is a link on how they make HFCS:<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.westonaprice.org/motherlinda/cornsyrup.html" target="_blank">http://www.westonaprice.org/motherlinda/cornsyrup.html</a><br><br><br><br>
I didn't read the whole thing but the process sounds pretty long and complicated. Plus, being made out of corn it is probably not NON-GMO (is there non-gmo HFCS)<br><br><br><br>
Agave nectar (esp Raw) comes from a directly from a plant and doesn't go through all that processing.<br><br><br><br><a href="http://www.madhavahoney.com/agave.htm" target="_blank">http://www.madhavahoney.com/agave.htm</a><br><br><br><br><br><br>
So, you could tell your brother that HFCS is highly processed and agave isn't.
 

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Here is a link on how they make HFCS:<br><br><br><br>
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I didn't read the whole thing but the process sounds pretty long and complicated. Plus, being made out of corn it is probably not NON-GMO (is there non-gmo HFCS)<br><br><br><br>
Agave nectar (esp Raw) comes from a directly from a plant and doesn't go through all that processing.<br><br>
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So, you could tell your brother that HFCS is highly processed and agave isn't.</div>
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ill do that, but when i was raised i was always told that HFCS was bad but was never given any reason why.
 

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HFCS has links to obesity, insulin resistance and heart disease.<br><br><br><br>
A good summary I found of the potential health issues:<br><br><br><br>
1. The most dangerous effect of fructose is how your body’s key weight/fat related hormones react to it. Insulin, about which I will have a lot to say in future posts, is usually produced in response to a spike in blood sugar, so it can transport the sugar to your cells for energy and help you feel satiated. But, tragically, fructose does not trigger this response. This is how you can gulp an extra-large bucket of soda and still feel empty. Another hormone leptin, regulates appetite and fat storage and fructose has the same effect on it. Finally, while glucose suppresses the hormone ghrelin and hence tells you that you are full, fructose does no such thing. The end result because of fructose’s weird effect on your important hormones? You eat more than you need because nature’s checks and balances are short-circuited!<br><br><br><br>
2. Unlike glucose, fructose consumption causes a significant increase in the concentration of uric acid - an indicator of heart disease.<br><br><br><br>
3. While glucose can be metabolized in every cell, fructose can only be dealt with in the last stages (primarily in the jejunum and eventually the liver) of digestion - another reason insulin is not released normally for fructose. In the liver, an overload of fructose can lead to malabsorption and diarrhea.<br><br><br><br>
4. Fructose converts to fat much more easily than any other sugar and it can also raise triglyceride levels significantly. It also raises LDL, or bad cholesterol.<br><br><br><br>
5. Fructose interferes with the metabolism of metals like copper, a deficiency of which can lead to bone fragility and anemia. Research also indicates that free fructose interferes with the heart’s use of key minerals like magnesium and chromium.<br><br><br><br>
See also: <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A8003-2003Mar10?language=printer" target="_blank">http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp...nguage=printer</a>
 

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There is also the glycemic index factor. HFCS has a glycemic index of 89, whereas Agave Nectar has a glycemic index of 19. And when it comes to blood sugar spikes, you want the *lower* glycemic index. Pure glucose for example has an index of 100, and is the standard that all are foods are measured by.
 

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HFCS has links to obesity, insulin resistance and heart disease.<br><br><br><br>
A good summary I found of the potential health issues:<br><br><br><br>
1. The most dangerous effect of fructose is how your bodys key weight/fat related hormones react to it. Insulin, about which I will have a lot to say in future posts, is usually produced in response to a spike in blood sugar, so it can transport the sugar to your cells for energy and help you feel satiated. But, tragically, fructose does not trigger this response. This is how you can gulp an extra-large bucket of soda and still feel empty. Another hormone leptin, regulates appetite and fat storage and fructose has the same effect on it. Finally, while glucose suppresses the hormone ghrelin and hence tells you that you are full, fructose does no such thing. The end result because of fructoses weird effect on your important hormones? You eat more than you need because natures checks and balances are short-circuited!<br><br><br><br>
2. Unlike glucose, fructose consumption causes a significant increase in the concentration of uric acid - an indicator of heart disease.<br><br><br><br>
3. While glucose can be metabolized in every cell, fructose can only be dealt with in the last stages (primarily in the jejunum and eventually the liver) of digestion - another reason insulin is not released normally for fructose. In the liver, an overload of fructose can lead to malabsorption and diarrhea.<br><br><br><br>
4. Fructose converts to fat much more easily than any other sugar and it can also raise triglyceride levels significantly. It also raises LDL, or bad cholesterol.<br><br><br><br>
5. Fructose interferes with the metabolism of metals like copper, a deficiency of which can lead to bone fragility and anemia. Research also indicates that free fructose interferes with the hearts use of key minerals like magnesium and chromium.<br><br><br><br>
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well i showed this to my borther and he simply replied "agave nectar is primarly fructose" lol i guess this is going to be harder then i thought. owell i will still never eat HFCS anyway<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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The amount of fructose in HFCS is much higher than what is found in agave nectar. Using a small amount of agave nectar as a sweetener is very different from the high levels of HFCS you can consume if you routinely eat processed food. Obviously if you're consuming cups of agave nectar every day you're going to have the same sorts of negative effects.
 
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