Originally Posted by
vegan cyberpunk
If they are very religious no problem, just speak about the bible ( since you speak about right wing i guess it's likely this religion )
There is quiet a lot of interesting quotes, such as
you shall not kill, wich is pretty easy to understand, is it not?
Isaiah 65:25
"The wolf and the lamb will feed together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox, but dust will be the serpent's food. They will neither hunt nor destroy on all my holy mountain,"
This is supposed to be the better times, the heaven on eart thing. Why not try our best to have heaven on earth now rather than waiting?
Man received dominion over animals, but also over his chlidren. Do you eat your children? Dominion is autorithy, not oh you will be my breakfast.
Jesus was a member of the Nazarene Essenes, who were vegetarians ( no, jesus wasn't a catholic or a protestant lol ). There is a lot of things saying that he was vegetarian in the apocryphes especially, and as you know the only diffference betwee, the apocryphes and the bible is a concil wich separated them because of a lot of contradictions in order to unify the church by majority.
Daniel 1:11-16
Daniel then said to the guard whom the chief official had appointed over him: "Please test your servants for ten days: Give us nothing but vegetables to eat and water to drink. Then compare our appearance with that of the young men who eat the royal food, and treat your servants in accordance with what you see." So he agreed to this and tested them for ten days. At the end of the ten days they looked healthier and better nourished than any of the young men who ate the royal food. So the guard took away their meat and the wine they were to drink and gave them vegetables instead.
All the fish story can be translated from the greek by "fish weed" (a dried seaweed )
Most of the word meat is misused, it means food or nourrishment, John (4.8) it states: "For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat." The word meat was taken from the Greek word trophe, which actually means nourishment. This is exactly the same case in Acts (9.19): "And when he had received meat, he was strengthened." When translated accurately it means that by receiving nourishment, he felt stronger.
In Luke (8.55) we find, "And her spirit came again and she arose straightaway: and he (Jesus) commanded to give her meat." The word meat in this case was translated from the Greek word phago, which translated correctly simply means to eat.
It makes this quote very interesting In Romans (14.20-21) the verses are: "For meat destroy not the word of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence. It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor anything whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak." The word for meat here is broma, which again is a general word that means foods, and the word for flesh is kreas, which does mean flesh. Therefore, this verse is another that is not necessarily supportive of eating meat, but makes it clear that flesh eating is unacceptable.
And this one If the Bible explains that eating meat is wrong, then what is the proper thing to eat? Genesis (1.29) clearly states: "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree, in which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat." This makes it quite obvious that the recommended food for human beings is herbs, seeds, grains, and fruits.
But my favorite quote is from Mohammad, when he says something like do not transform your body into cemetaries.
And serisouly, how can one speak about a god of love and compassion, and have a complete lack of love and compassion towards the weak ? you should explain them what they do to animals...
There is plenty of good stuff, in every religion, ( they actually all have more in common than they have differences ), google is your friend. There are even associations of christians vegetarians and things like that. Should give yyou something to speak about at your next dinner.