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There are some things that all the old-timers know that continually shock or confuse the vegetarian newbies that come to these boards. This is the thread to get all that confusion out at once. Heres my list (feel free to add on or ask questions):<br><br><br><br>
Many cheeses are processed using rennet, which is the lining of a calfs stomach. There is a list of rennet-free cheeses floating around somewhere on the boards.<br><br><br><br>
McDonalds uses beef flavoring in their fries.<br><br><br><br>
Gelatin is made from animal bones. Gelatin is in jell-o, marshmallows, and some candy (plus many other things. Always read labels).<br><br><br><br>
Many vegetable dishes, even sometimes those labeled vegetarian, contain animal stock. If this bothers you, make sure you read labels or ask the waiter/cook for ingredients before eating anything.<br><br><br><br>
Another common hidden animal ingredient is lard, which I believe is pig fat.<br><br><br><br>
Vegan is generally pronounced vee-gan. A vegan does not eat or use any animal products (milk, eggs, leather, wool, etc.).<br><br><br><br>
People who eat fish or seafood are not vegetarians. They are pescetarians.<br><br><br><br>
Lacto-ovo vegetarians eat milk and egg products. Ovo-vegetarians eat egg products but not milk, and lacto-vegetarians eat milk products but not eggs. Lacto-ovo is often shortened to l/o.<br><br><br><br>
Veg*n stands for vegetarian and/or vegan. Its a blanket word for when someone is making a statement that applies to both groups and unfortunately does not translate well into spoken English.<br><br><br><br>
There are threads on these boards that discuss all of these topics in more detail, plus anything else you would ever want to know about veg*nism. If youve found Veggieboards, youre off to a good start.
 

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<span>wow, sounds like you know your stuff! lol you know more than I do and iv been at this off- and on for 4 years.</span>
 

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That's a great starter list! Thanks Iria!<br><br><br><br>
I'll add some more:
<ul><li>Many soy cheeses contain casein, which is a dairy byproduct.<br></li>
<li>Cochineal and Carmine are made from crushed up beetles. You'll sometimes find these ingredients in red-colored foods and candies.<br></li>
<li>Many types of sugar are often refined using bone-char. Some brands that are safe for vegans are Florida Crystals, or unrefined beet sugar.<br></li>
<li>Many wines are refined using isinglass which comes from fish. Some juices such as apple juice and pear juice are sometimes refined using gelatin. (See <a href="http://www.ams.usda.gov/nop/NationalList/TAPReviews/Gelatin.pdf" target="_blank">government article</a>) When in doubt, contact the company.<br></li>
<li>Two very helpful threads are the <a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=50249" target="_blank">Tip Of The Day Thread</a> and the <a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=10432" target="_blank">Surprisingly Not Veg*n Food Threads</a>.<br></li>
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Thanks so much for posting that! l just found out that some lipsticks contain Cochineal!! Yuck!<br><br>
There certainly a lot to know about being a vegetarian it's not just about eating veggies all the time!<br><br><br><br>
Thanks again!!!
 

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I think it's important for new vegetarians to know that it isn't just pro-veg*n groups which say that vegetarian diets are healthy. This is from the American Dietetic Association:<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">It is the position of the American Dietetic Association and Dietitians of Canada that appropriately planned vegetarian diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and provide health benefits in the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. Approximately 2.5% of adults in the United States and 4% of adults in Canada follow vegetarian diets...<br><br><br><br>
... A vegetarian, including <b>vegan,</b> diet can meet current recommendations for all of these nutrients. In some cases, use of fortified foods or supplements can be helpful in meeting recommendations for individual nutrients. <b>Well-planned vegan and other types of vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including during pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, and adolescence.</b><br><br><br><br>
Vegetarian diets offer a number of nutritional benefits, including lower levels of saturated fat, cholesterol, and animal protein as well as higher levels of carbohydrates, fiber, magnesium, potassium, folate, and antioxidants such as vitamins C and E and phytochemicals. Vegetarians have been reported to have lower body mass indices than nonvegetarians, as well as lower rates of death from ischemic heart disease; vegetarians also show lower blood cholesterol levels; lower blood pressure; and lower rates of hypertension, type 2 diabetes, and prostate and colon cancer.</div>
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Read more: <a href="http://www.eatright.org/cps/rde/xchg/ada/hs.xsl/advocacy_933_ENU_HTML.htm" target="_blank">http://www.eatright.org/cps/rde/xchg...3_ENU_HTML.htm</a><br><br><br><br>
I'm not sure if this fits in with what you wanted Iria but I think it is important information.
 

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I wish i read something like this when i first became a vegetarian, three years ago. Because i THOUGHT i did my research, but everything just said avoid animal products. Which i assumed to be meat only. I found out at the beggining of this year what gelatine was, checked my fridge and found it in every single one of the foods my mother buys specifically for me. I was so upset and still can't believe that i had thought i was vegetarian for so long without actually being! I am still struggling with it, as i forget about it alot... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br><br><br>
Great idea and awesome list!
 

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In Europe, some ingredients are listed as E-numbers. From a veg*n perspective, these come in 3 categories:<br><br>
1) Those E-numbers that are always safe for vegetarians and sometimes also for vegans<br><br>
2) Those E-numbers that are always made from non-vegetarian sources,<br><br>
3) Those E-numbers that are sometimes made from vegan/vegetarian sources and sometimes not.<br><br><br><br>
Which E-numbers belong in each group can be found e.g. here:<br><br><a href="http://www.vegsoc.org/info/enumbers.html" target="_blank">http://www.vegsoc.org/info/enumbers.html</a><br><br><a href="http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/faqingredients.htm#E" target="_blank">http://www.vrg.org/nutshell/faqingredients.htm#E</a>
 

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I think it always seems to shock newbies when they've made a "mistake" and had something that isn't vegetarian. Then they learn that we've all done that exact same mistake. It's a learning process and it takes a while.<br><br><br><br>
You wouldn't think that boxed Mac and Cheese couldn't be anything but vegetarian - but it varies by brand. Look for ones which are "rennetless" - the Nature's Basket brand at my grocery store is. Kraft isn't.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Iria</strong> <a href="/forum/post/0"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br><br>
Many cheeses are processed using rennet, which is the lining of a calfs stomach. There is a list of rennet-free cheeses floating around somewhere on the boards.<br></div>
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something i recently found out (probably only relates to the lacto ovo vegeatarians living in the UK) ... <a href="http://walkers.corpex.com/CR15p5/packinfo.asp?snacktypeid=49&flavourid=3" target="_blank">Walkers Cheese and Onion Potato Heads</a> contain animal rennet! avoid at all costs!<br><br><br><br>
(found this out at my local supermarket whilst scouring non-vegan ingredients lists... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sneaky.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":shifty:"> )
 
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