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A good diet plan for vegetarians!

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I found this odd little book in a discount bin that was called something like 'For Teenagers Only' and had a diet/health plan. I found it really interesting. It is an exchange-based diet plan, i.e. you get so many allotments in each of several categories and you can use them however you like. I had success with such a plan in the past (the food mover plan) but in the end wound up quitting because it was quite restrictive about what calories could come from where. This plan was a little more flexible because it has fewer categories, and it counts snacks as a separate category e.g. if you have a starchy item for a snack, it does not count as a starchy items choice but as a snack choice. I am on the 1400-calorie plan and have lost six pounds already. Here is how the 1400-calorie plan is set up:

3 protein servings

3 carbohydrate servings

2 fruit servings

2 dairy/dairy alternates servings

1 condiments serving (100 cals or 4 different 25 cals servings or 2 50-cal etc)

1 tea serving (they have a special tea they want you to make)

3 snack servings

One comment I have, they count things like carrots as a carbohydrate serving, and I don't. I did not get overweight from eating carrots
Also, for snacks, you can have anything you want for 100 cas worth, i.e. you can have 100 cals of cereal, crackers, cheese, fruit etc.

I usually set up my day with a protein and carb at every meal, plus a fruit at two meals and a dairy alternate at one meal (usually soy milk if I am having cereal at breakfast). Remember that if you have something like a fruit for your snack, you don't have to count it as a fruit, you can count it as a snack. Also, I never eat three snacks and very seldom use up both dairy choices, so sometimes I save one of those boxes for an extra carb serving at dinner since 100 cals worth can be small. Non-starchy vegetables are freebies and you can have as much as you want.

So far, it is going well! Here is how my day today looked; this is a fairly typical sort of day for me.

Breakfast: Crackers and soy nuts (I was on the go today due to an early meeting at work. Usually, I have cereal and soy milk, or applesauce mixed with cooked oatmeal) ONE PROTEIN, ONE CARB

Snack: Snack-size box of raisins ONE SNACK

Lunch: Chickpea Noodle Soup (off Vegan with a Vengeance site, and it was yummy!) and sliced grapefruit ONE PROTEIN, ONE CARB, ONE FRUIT

Snack: Home-made Cranberry muffin, tea ONE SNACK, ONE TEA

Dinner: Tomato soup, tofu miso dip, carrot sticks, maybe some crackers (probably will count this as a PROTEIN, CARB and DAIRY (the soup). It isn't really dairy per se, but it seems like the best way to add this up

Still left: a fruit, a dairy and a snack. If I feel my portion at dinner is high, I will check off an extra dairy or snack box. If I want a snack, I can have some fruit, and maybe some yogurt with it if I have the dairy box left)

It is not a hard diet to maintain at all! I just make my little sticky note in the morning to tick off the boxes:

Protein X X X

Carb X X X

Fruit X X

Dairy X X

Condiment X

Tea X

Snack X X X

Anyway, hope somebody finds this helpful!
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Where do vegetables come in?? Even if they're counted as carbs, which makes no sense, and you only ate vegetables instead of carbs that is only 3 servings a day and that isn't enough.
Just reading this gives me a headache. Why not just eat a diet rich in a variety of veggies, fruit, whole grains, and legumes, and avoid processed foods?

Sorry, I'm anti weight-loss diet. Unless you plan on calculating every meal for the rest of your life, your best bet for good health is to eat a whole foods (or mostly whole foods) diet, to not overeat, and to drink plenty of water and get plenty of exercise. Repeat daily for the rest of your life.

Also, I do notice the sample day you have includes no green veggies, which is not a good thing.
There were veggies in the soup
Veggies come in wherever you like, you don't have to tick box for them.

"Why not just eat a diet rich in a variety of veggies, fruit, whole grains, and legumes, and avoid processed foods?"

Some people need a little structure to get them started. You don't. goody for you. But some people do. The one thing an exchange program did for me was help me learn proper portion sizes. Generally, I don't count boxes and just try to eat healthily, but if I feel I am gaining weight or eating in a not balanced way, I go back to counting until I get the weight off. I had some health problems earlier in the year and got off track for a bit. I am undoing the damage.

Again, if you don't need this kind of thing, that's great for you. How nice that you are in a position where it is not a concern for you. But to be anti-weight-loss for other people wen you have not walked in their shoes? What is your problem? There have been at least three threads here in recent weeks asking for weight loss advice on a vegetarian diet, so I figured there was interest in posting this. Obviously, not everyone finds this as easy as you seem to.
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Again, if you don't need this kind of thing, that's great for you. How nice that you are in a position where it is not a concern for you. But to be anti-weight-loss for other people wen you have not walked in their shoes? What is your problem? There have been at least three threads here in recent weeks asking for weight loss advice on a vegetarian diet, so I figured there was interest in posting this. Obviously, not everyone finds this as easy as you seem to.
Sorry I came off as so bitchy. I actually have walked in your shoes and never found it easy at all. From about the ages of 12-30 I went on every diet there is. My point, which I should have made more nicely, is that it is not healthy to put on weight and then take it off with a diet plan. The best thing to do health-wise is to find a way of eating that you like and can stick with for the rest of your life, because maintaining a relatively consistent weight is much healthier than yo-yo-ing. The way I have found peace with food is to get in touch with my body's hunger signals and to eat a variety of healthful foods when I am hungry, to exercise moderately and regularly, and to drink a lot of water. If this diet plan works for you, that's great, because once you clarified that it includes lots of vegetables, it sounds pretty healthy. But I just caution everyone to beware of gaining and then losing weight repeatedly, because experts say doing so is worse for your health than just being consistently overweight. Sorry again for sounding mean.
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Thanks for your reply, Eggplant. Thinking about it after posting, I decided that I had over-reacted too, and was just coming back to post about it. The thing is, for me, anyway, there were some special circumstances. I had a food allergy diagnosis that really threw me, and most of the weight I put on was around that and is not weight I had before. As for the 'do I plan to tick the boxes forever' argument, the thing is, I sort of do plan to, because my food allergy limits me in several ways and even under the best of circumstances, my eating will always require a certain degree of planning and effort. Do I plan to have my little chart and tick them off every day? No. But I do plan to keep the guidelines in my head so I can make sure I am eating a properly balanced diet, and I do plan to whip out the chart and go back to logging faithfully if I ever feel the weight creeping on again, or if I feel like I am starting to eat too much from one food group at the expense of the other. This has been a valuable tool for me to help me plan balanced meals. Many of the things you might consider 'eating a variety of healthful foods' are challenging for me because I, unlike a non-allergic person, don't have unlimited options (the big two exclusions for me being anything corn-derived, and it would shock you how much stuff has corn in it, and most raw fruits, although cooked fruit is fine).

So, I guess your categoric statement of being 'anti-diet' and 'just eating healthfully' kind of pushed some of my buttons, because for many people, it really isn't that easy, and they do need something structured to follow to teach them how to actually eat in a reasonable way. 'Getting in touch with the body's hunger signals' for example is something people need to LEARN how to do. Most people don't just decide to do it, and have at it. And obviously, people are struggling or else there would not have been at least three threads I recall in recent memory asking about veg-friendly diets!
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I really think you are eating too much processed food... Also how much do you weigh? calories seems kina low... probably better to eat a bit more so you don't kill your metabolism...unless you are under 120 pounds or something.
It sounds like we just pushed each others' buttons! Glad we cleared it all up.
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I really think you are eating too much processed food...
Where is the processed food in the stuff ficbot listed?
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