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hey everyone...<br><br><br><br>
this is very hard for me to post, but....<br><br><br><br>
i'm wondering if anyone here ever has involuntary thoughts about eating meat?!<br><br><br><br>
lately i keep imagining myself cooking lamb chops for dinner. this hasn't happened before. i feel like the thoughts just rise to the surface of my mind without my control.<br><br><br><br>
i am doing a lot of soul searching about why this may be the case.<br><br><br><br>
i'm curious to know if anyone else here has similar thoughts, and if so how you feel about them and why you think they occur...<br><br><br><br>
tis very confusing for me!<br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:">
 

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nope sorry, i've never experienced this before. how long have you been veg*n? maybe you are secretly in your mind subconsciously wanted meat?
 

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Maybe you're missing something in your diet that the meat has in it, so you're thinking about it.<br><br><br><br>
I always think of foods (get hungry for) that have something in them that I'm missing.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Kat New</i><br><br><b>hey everyone...<br><br><br><br>
this is very hard for me to post, but....<br><br><br><br>
i'm wondering if anyone here ever has involuntary thoughts about eating meat?!<br><br><br><br>
lately i keep imagining myself cooking lamb chops for dinner. this hasn't happened before. i feel like the thoughts just rise to the surface of my mind without my control.<br><br><br><br>
i am doing a lot of soul searching about why this may be the case.<br><br><br><br>
i'm curious to know if anyone else here has similar thoughts, and if so how you feel about them and why you think they occur...<br><br><br><br>
tis very confusing for me!<br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/huh.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":confused:"></b></div>
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Try connecting the images of lamb chops to lambs, then envision their slaughter. If that doesn't help, I don't know what to tell you.
 

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I've had dreams where I attack a bear and rip out a chunk of his flesh and take a bite. Does that count?
 

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No, I never have thoughts like that.<br><br><br><br>
You might crave a particular nutrient that's found in lamb chops, but it could be anything. How do you feel about these thoughts: guilty, afraid, angry, content? Do you want to eat meat? Are you concerned that you aren't strict enough with your diet? Post more information, please.
 

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I don't think this has anything to do with missing something in your diet or actually wanting to eat meat. If you are like myself and most of the vegetablepeople out there you were not always a vegetableperson, you were a meatishperson. You grew up eating meat and taught to enjoy it flavours and savior its tenderness, certainly this kind of brainwashing takes time to wear off and you are bound to relapse into the involuntary wanting of some of these past foods that you once though delightful, but fear not, tis only a passing thought and don't admonish yourself over it, just realise if you ever actually ate meat again you would have major stomach discomfort if you didnt gag and throw up once the taste of death touched your tongue.
 

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that is to say sometimes i think of a yucky grilled sourdoughburger from jack in the crack, cause damn if it didnt pleasure my palate, but if i actually saw one in person i would lose my appetite.
 

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There can be a number of reasons you're feeling this way.<br><br><br><br>
1. It's all your mother's fault (when in doubt, blame your mother)<br><br>
2. You miss the taste/smell/texture/full feeling of meat and, for unknown reasons, lamb chops popped into your mind.<br><br>
3. You do not eat filling, heavier foods and you miss that feeling. Your mind associates that feeling with meat.<br><br>
4. You maybe missing iron, zinc, protein or fat in your diet and your body craves a meal that will replace it.<br><br>
5. Your feelings on your veg*ism are changing.<br><br>
6. You're hungry and lamb chops sounds good to your mind.<br><br><br><br>
Epski, that doesn't work for everyone. There are people who know exactly where their meat comes from and it doesn't bother then to eat it. Sometimes, cravings can also be that bad.<br><br><br><br>
aksjg, that means you have serious pent up aggression and need to yell at epski more.<br><br><br><br>
This shouldn't be a hard thing for you to admit. I was expecting a lot worse, actually. So, you're thinking about eating meat. Big deal. Seriously, big deal. This doesn't make you less of a veg. I've lost no respect for you.<br><br><br><br>
Try eating something rich and filling. It may help a lot with the cravings.<br><br><br><br>
And, in the end, if you do choose to try out the lamb chop, I will still respect you as much as I did before reading your message. And, honestly, I doubt you'd get past buying them in the store, let alone cooking them. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
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I have dreams where I eat meat...usually it is the result of people in my dreams convincing me to do it. I never feel good about it though.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by kristadb</i><br><br><b>Epski, that doesn't work for everyone. There are people who know exactly where their meat comes from and it doesn't bother then to eat it. Sometimes, cravings can also be that bad.</b></div>
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Sure. After all, not everyone stops eating meat because it disgusts them. It was simply what I would do.<br><br><br><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by kristadb</i><br><br><b>aksjg, that means you have serious pent up aggression and need to yell at epski more.</b></div>
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Why me? And more? Did I miss some yelling at me somewhere else? Don't listen to her. She's cuckoo, man, I'm telling you.
 

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Yeah Peebs,<br><br><br><br>
I used to have dreams where I ate meat and then I would throw up my internal organs - I hope that I did not gross anyone out!<img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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How long have you been a vegetarian? Maybe there's a recipe for fake lamb chops. Whatever the cause, don't beat yourself up over it. They're just thoughts. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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I think I agree with Majake. Food has a lot of emotional associations. Did your mother used to make lamb for the family? Do you have any other associations with it? If this is a food you have had for you by parents or older relatives it could be a symbol of having a family, gathering with family, having one's own household. Maybe you need to think of a veg*n food that has similar warm and fuzzy associations and make that instead.<br><br><br><br>
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I sometimes dream that I accidently discover half way through eating something that it is meat. And I figure I might as well eat the rest, it will just go in the trash. And sometimes in the dream I enjoy it, and when I wake up, I am relieved that I got to enjoy imaginary bacon without hurting any animals!
 

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I've had thoughts like these. However, I've come to realize that me "wanting" the meat is actually me wanting the feelings that came with it. For example, when I was still very young, my entire family would have get togethers that involved grilling steak. When I think of steak, I think of that. So, it's not really the steak that I want but my family all together again (most of those said family members are passed away <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> ).<br><br><br><br>
Maybe you should delve into certain memories like these that you may have. It could help explain your thoughts. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)">
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by majake</i><br><br><b>You grew up eating meat and taught to enjoy it flavours and savior its tenderness, certainly this kind of brainwashing takes time to wear off</b></div>
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Hehe... I like this sentence. "Brainwashing" <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"><br><br><br><br>
Anyway, no, I've never had those kinds of visions. I think I may have had a dream at night one time about eating meat, and I woke up feeling really gross and sickly, as if I had a hangover, but I didn't have one. It was kind of nightmarish.<br><br><br><br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br><br><br>
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Discussion Starter · #18 ·
the first few years i was veg i used to have terrible nightmares about eating meat... i started to eat iron rich/fat rich foods and it helped. creamed spinach should do it (tofutti cream cheese, soymilk and spinach)
 

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My best guess is that it's something in your diet that's missing. Since we're all veg*ns here, we probably all know the stories of how veal calves crave iron. They are anemic, and their minds (most likely their subconscous minds) crave iron, and they somehow know what has iron in it, so they try to lick anything metal like rusty nails, and they even try to drink their urine, which has a small amount of iron in it. So, you should probably start taking a multivitamin with iron and zinc and eat more veggie meat and get more protein.
 

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I have given this a bit of thought since my earlier post. I occasionally have absolutely horrible, violent thoughts. They surface like you said your meat fantasies do. Once in a while, a mini-daydream of hurting someone or something will float into my head. I talked to several nurses about it, and they've all assured me that it's completely normal, as long as I don't act on these thoughts. Maybe your lamb chop fantasies are something akin to that. If you view eating meat as violent, then this could be the uncivilized antagonist in you trying to shine through. Resisting these desires, to you, confirm your civility.
 
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