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A typical steer going to the slaughter house will weigh in at around 1250 lbs. From that, you are looking for around a 58% yield after butchering. or, roughly 750lbs of edible meat.<br>
The average person in the U.S, (not sure about the entire world as this number differs) will eat 60lbs of beef each year. the rest is chicken, pork etc...<br>
so, this leaves us with the probability that one Steer will feed roughly 12 people for a year.<br>
If we can convince just 2 people each to not eat beef (worry about chickens, pork etc.. later) it would only take six of us to save one cow per year.<br>
I know that one cow per year does not sound exactly huge, but imagine if those people we convinced were able to convince 2 more and so on and so on.<br><br>
on the other hand, individually, our not eating beef saves one cow every 12 years. one.<br><br>
put into perspective, we really might need to do more.
 

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I love cows so much! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> I want to save them all, with their big crazy eyes.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>LedBoots</strong> <a href="/forum/post/2979931"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I love cows so much! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/smiley.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":)"> I want to save them all, with their big crazy eyes.</div>
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Me too. I was pretty disappointed when I found out how small an impact I had on the system by going vegetarian, as a group we save a good number, but looking at it as a single individual, one cow every 13 years is not satisfactory.<br>
And thus the challenge.
 

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Damn <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br>
That's only like 6 or 7 cows in someone life, assuming they were always vegetarian.
 

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That's why it's better to focus on small animals. Imagine how many chickens it takes to equal the "meat" from one cow...
 

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Even if it is only 6 or 7 in a lifetime, that's 6 or 7 beings who got to live rather than die. I would still do it if it saved even one. Good to know we save many as a group.
 

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Sometimes on a hike I look up at the sky and think to myself about how insignificant is my life is, how small are my contributions, and how petty are my worries. And it relaxes me. It doesn't make me sad or guilty or worried. It just is. It all just is. And I'm part of it.<br><br>
Should we try to save/spare more animals? Sure. Let's tackle it with intention and intelligence. Let's do it right.<br>
But should we beat ourselves up for only saving/sparing a few (so far)? No. It just is.<br><br><a href="http:" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xs7zeof-NA</a>
 

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I think it's more than that. Most people don't eat every edible part of a cow. A lot of people only eat certain cuts. If there is one type of steak that someone eats a lot of, more cows need to be killed to supply that one type of steak. The same goes for chicken or turkey. One person might like all the parts of a chicken and can make one last for a few meals, while someone else might like legs only so it will take multiple chickens to make a few meals for them.
 

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I think it's more than that. Most people don't eat every edible part of a cow. A lot of people only eat certain cuts. If there is one type of steak that someone eats a lot of, more cows need to be killed to supply that one type of steak. The same goes for chicken or turkey. One person might like all the parts of a chicken and can make one last for a few meals, while someone else might like legs only so it will take multiple chickens to make a few meals for them.</div>
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That was true with me when I was an omnivore. I only ate chicken legs as I hated the rest. If I had four of them, that would be two chickens right there assuming both legs of both chickens were even deemed fit for consumption (though it's safe to assume each was from a different chicken, so 4 chickens dead for just part of one meal. Same as how one McDonalds hamburger can be made out of the body parts of 100 cows). I had only eaten fish once and never ate any other sea animals because I thought that was gross. But those are even more. Shrimp (no one eats just one), lobsters, sardines, tuna (they're big, but see my next point), etc. Including all the bycatch, that's an insane amount of animals killed for just part of one meal.
 

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I hate it when I see a restaurant advertising wings for 25 cents, or some nonsense. Is that life really worth 50 cents? REALLY??? Its just so sad. I know that the rest of the chicken is probably getting consumed as well, but it (obviously) doesn't make me feel better.<br><br>
I think this was supposed to be an inspirational email but now I'm depressed....
 

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That's why it's better to focus on small animals. Imagine how many chickens it takes to equal the "meat" from one cow...</div>
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I totally agree. Eating eggs and small animals like chickens causes much more suffering and many more deaths than eating cows!<br><br><a href="http://www.utilitarian-essays.com/suffering-per-kg.html" target="_blank">How Much Direct Suffering Is Caused by Various Animal Foods?</a><br><br><a href="http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/2011/08/11/want-to-kill-fewer-animals-give-up-eggs-not-meat/" target="_blank">Want to Kill Fewer Animals? Give Up Eggs</a><br><br><a href="http://www.animalvisuals.org/projects/data/1mc" target="_blank">Number of Animals Killed to Produce One Million Calories in Eight Food Categories</a><br><br><a href="http://www.animalvisuals.org/projects/data/slaughter" target="_blank">Rate of Slaughter of Chickens, Pigs, and Cows in the United States, 2008</a>
 

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Sometimes on a hike I look up at the sky and think to myself about how insignificant is my life is, how small are my contributions, and how petty are my worries. And it relaxes me. It doesn't make me sad or guilty or worried. It just is. It all just is. And I'm part of it.</div>
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I've started thinking a bit like this as well, and it is relaxing.
 

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Even if it is only 6 or 7 in a lifetime, that's 6 or 7 beings who got to live rather than die. I would still do it if it saved even one. Good to know we save many as a group.</div>
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Wouldn't it be more like 6 or 7 cows that didn't have to be born to meet market demand?
 

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Wouldn't it be more like 6 or 7 cows that didn't have to be born to meet market demand?</div>
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To the world it may be only one cow, but to that cow it may be the world.</div>
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<br><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/yes.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":yes:"> Exactly.
 

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Sometimes on a hike I look up at the sky and think to myself about how insignificant is my life is, how small are my contributions, and how petty are my worries. And it relaxes me. It doesn't make me sad or guilty or worried. It just is. It all just is. And I'm part of it.<br><br>
Should we try to save/spare more animals? Sure. Let's tackle it with intention and intelligence. Let's do it right.<br>
But should we beat ourselves up for only saving/sparing a few (so far)? No. It just is.</div>
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I experience that sometimes, too. In those moments, it calms me, too. And I accept that caring so much, feeling guilty over not doing enough, beating myself up, etc. is also part of it, and that it's going to be part of my life until I find a way to really contribute to this cause - and others - as much as I feel I can.
 

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The Starfish Story<br>
Original Story by: Loren Eisley<br><br>
One day a man was walking along the beach when he noticed<br>
a boy picking something up and gently throwing it into the ocean.<br>
Approaching the boy, he asked, 'What are you doing?'<br>
The youth replied, 'Throwing starfish back into the ocean.<br>
The surf is up and the tide is going out. If I don't throw them back, they'll die.'<br><br>
'Son', the man said, 'don't you realize there are miles and miles of beach and hundreds of starfish?<br>
You can't make a difference!'<br>
After listening politely, the boy bent down, picked up another starfish,<br>
and threw it back into the surf. Then, smiling at the man, he said,<br>
'I made a difference for that one.'<br><br><br>
"I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; and because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something that I can do."<br><b><i>Helen Keller</i></b>
 

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Maybe all this is 'glass half empty' talk. Maybe we should be looking at it like this:<br><br>
If we are 1% of the population, then that is 300,000 people who are not eating any meat(approximately in the US). I'm not going to bother doing the math because that's far more involved than I want to get, but even so, just think of how many animals we are not being a market for! That's important, no effort is too small. If you pass a hungry kid on the street and he's probably going to die, is it pointless to give him a bit of food just cause he'll probably die anyway? You know what I mean. We have to keep the focus on the value to those animals who have benefited by not being born to suffer.<br>
If we don't keep that focus, than what have we left?
 

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The Starfish Story<br>
Original Story by: Loren Eisley<br><br>
One day a man was walking along the beach when he noticed<br>
a boy picking something up and gently throwing it into the ocean.<br>
Approaching the boy, he asked, 'What are you doing?'<br>
The youth replied, 'Throwing starfish back into the ocean.<br>
The surf is up and the tide is going out. If I don't throw them back, they'll die.'<br><br>
'Son', the man said, 'don't you realize there are miles and miles of beach and hundreds of starfish?<br>
You can't make a difference!'<br>
After listening politely, the boy bent down, picked up another starfish,<br>
and threw it back into the surf. Then, smiling at the man, he said,<br>
'I made a difference for that one.'<br><br><br>
"I am only one, but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but still I can do something; and because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do something that I can do."<br><b><i>Helen Keller</i></b></div>
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Thank you so much angie, for sharing that! That is beautiful, so much so that I intend to write it down in my collected sayings book. Thanks.<br><br>
And I love this one too:<br><br>
\t\t\t\t\t<img alt="" src="http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/images/misc/quote_icon.png" style="border:0px solid;"> Originally Posted by <b>EarthWhispers</b> \t\t\t\t\t<a href="http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/showthread.php?p=2983261#post2983261" target="_blank"><img alt="" src="http://www.veggieboards.com/newvb/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png" style="border:0px solid;"></a> \t\t\t\t<br>
\t\t\t\tTo the world it may be only one cow, but to that cow it may be the world."<br><br>
Fabulous thoughts all! Thank you.
 
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