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so i've been trying my hardest to advise my mother when she goes food shopping to what she should and shouldn't buy on how much i "like" them, but i didn't go last week cuz i had other plans. then today for tea i was given a yoghurt; and i always check the ingredients...force of habit. gelatine. what the...? the yoghurt had gelatine in. it wasn't like it was even supposed to be jelly, it was supposed to be a fruit yoghurt. and i was made to eat it <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/bigcry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":cry:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/bigcry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":cry:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/bigcry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":cry:"> even though my mother said she'd try to get different yoghurts next week.<br><br><br><br>
but i feel terrible...i feel like, by an attitude that's been expressed on here before that i've read, an omni. because i ate gelatine <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/bigcry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":cry:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/bigcry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":cry:"><img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/bigcry.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":cry:">. that even sounds horrible.
 

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I had no idea that yogurt had gelatine in it. I thought it was just a milk product. Weird. Is it cause of the fruit part? or because of the yogurt needing a certain consistancy?<br><br><br><br>
Jello is gross. I went to a friend's house for a party and she made all veggie food, so there was salad and spinach pies, and cheese which I'll eat, but she made a Jello mold with fruit in it, and it kinda grossed me out. Not to mention I quit processed sugar, so the jello sent me off the wagon, for sure. Not to worry though. I've stayed away from junk food consistantly for more than 3 months now.<br><br><br><br>
Some things are starting to really gross me out. Like children eating gelatine, drinking low-grade cow's milk, eating chicken fingers....It's not much different than the kids on the Simpson's drinking rat's milk at school. NASTY.
 

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it's okay, tofu rebel... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/hug.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":hug:"><br><br><br><br>
yes, many mainstream yogurts have gelatin in them (Yoplait for instance). I think it is for consistency.<br><br><br><br>
It sounds like your mom is at least trying. Is she? Can you make a list of things for her to look out for? (like on the list put "yogurt" and then next to it say, "please get some that does not have gelatin in it.") I don't know... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("><br><br><br><br>
I feel bad. My mom has done that too - she has bought stuff for me and was trying to be nice but missed some ingredients.<br><br><br><br>
I usually eat it anyway since it's already bought & paid for - no sense in letting the purchased item go to waste & the animals having suffered for naught.<br><br><br><br>
I know how you feel, but it's okay...<br><br><br><br>
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I agree.. make a list for your mom.. if my s/o goes to the store he'll check for honey, gelatin, casein and a few others. Your list doesn't have to be really long, but it's worth a shot.<br><br>
So Nice Soyganic makes grrrreat yogurt, maybe suggest that to her. Or make a list of foods that you like that are available at the store.<br><br>
When I told my mom I was vegan she knew more about food contents that I did. Now that was odd.
 

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If you know name brands that are vegan or don't have the ingredients in them you don't want, keep a list handy so your mom doesn't have to read ingredients lists all the time. You know what you want to eat, so just make a list, like Boca Burgers instead of Harvest Burgers (U.S.)<br><br><br><br>
Skarrlett, I love that picture of Lisa Simpson! She's awesome.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by OregonAmy</i><br><br><b><br><br>
I usually eat it anyway since it's already bought & paid for - no sense in letting the purchased item go to waste & the animals having suffered for naught.</b></div>
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I used to do that, but then my mom would buy it again saying that I ate it last time...so aside from honey I boycott all animal derrived ingredients possible no matter what.<br><br><br><br>
that's just me though, as I know many others might disagree<br><br><br><br>
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Yep I agree with the list idea. My mother misses some ingredients all the time. MAJORLY! I feel absolutely horrible because yesterday I was sick (103 fever) and I was a bit out of it so I didn't notice until afterwards that the soup my mother spoon fed me had shrimp in it... <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> To make things worse she slipped some fish into my rice because I needed 'strength'.<br><br><br><br>
It sounds like your mom is trying so just make her a list of 'hidden' ingredients you have to avoid.
 

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Hey at least you have people to take care of you, and shop for you. I would not give them a hard time, if they try to cater to your needs. Not everyone is great at reading labels, and they miss something from time to time.<br><br><br><br>
Dont beat them up, or yourself, if you missed something in your food content. It is always the thought that counts.
 

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In yogurts, it mainly is the reult of cultured milk. However, consumer demand in the early 1990's meant that customers were demanding their food to be low fat. Typically, whole milk contains five percent fat. Legally, products can only be labelled as low fat if they have less than three percent.<br><br><br><br>
You can probably see where this is going. Manufacturers needed to get rid of much of the fat from the milk. However, the fat is what gives the yogurt its consistency. So in order to correct this problem, a filler ingredient was used. This happens to be gelatin in most cases.<br><br><br><br>
Don't worry tofu. Your parents may not be fully understanding of your vegetarianism, but that's parents for you. I think that your situation may be that you don't really have much independence surrounding what you eat. I'm wondering if you cook your own food, because cooking your own food means that you control exactly what you eat. And it's always a consolation to remember that your parents can't actually force you to eat anything. Of course, refusing to eat food can cause much friction, but dependent upon the parents, this can be ironed out later.<br><br><br><br>
Your parents still do love you. They probably feel threatened by your vegetarianism, and probably don't fully understand it, although i must admit that gelatin is quite an obvious non-vegetarian ingredient. But do make sure they get a yogurt which doesn't contain gelatin. You're best off aksing for a full fat yogurt. This has two advantages:<br><br>
1.) there's less chance of it containing gelatin<br><br>
2.) It gives your parents confidence, particularly if they're worrying that you're using vegetraianism to mask an eating disorder.<br><br><br><br>
But do get them to check the label before purchasing. Also, once you've found some "safe" products, it's best to stick with them. It's a good idea to go shopping with her as well, which is what you've been doing, (Except for this week.) so that's good. Once you've settled in, and your parents are aware of what to avoid and what is a safe haven, then you should be fine.
 

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I think you should worry less about labels like omni and vegetarian and more about doing your best to live life the way you want while still accepting that you may experience some setbacks on your journey.
 

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Don't feel bad... at least your parents are being supportive! I think I wrote it somewhere else, but I bought most of my own food (as well as food for the entire family when I cooked for them) when I went veg. When my dad decided that I was serious (as a peace offering, I think), he bought this nasty vegetarian bacon. I hated it, but I smiled and thanked him like crazy when I ate it.<br><br><br><br>
Think of it from their point of view... it's probably harder on them than you think. My parents weren't always able to feed us as well or as often as they would have liked, so when I started refusing food they <i>really</i> got hurt and upset. I mean, they worked <i>hard</i> to make sure we weren't starving, and there I was saying "no" to the chicken and beef they were bringing home. That's why I started working more and bought my own food, anyway. I wanted to let them know it was really important to me and that I wasn't just a spoiled brat trying to have everything my way.<br><br><br><br>
That was a bit rambly, but the point is that if you are going to ask them to help you with this, you need to make your requests as <i>exact</i> as possible. If mistakes are going to make you feel bad, then you should really just take charge and do it yourself. You're sixteen or so, right? I totally respect the fact that you went veg on your own... it's admirable, but your parents, while they might respect you for it as well, probably see it largely as an inconvenience.
 

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you shouldnt feel like an omni cause you ate gelatine, i wouldnt worry about that. Whoever said that is an elitist.
 

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I believe fat free yoplait has no gelatin in it. It isn't as thick as normal yogurts, but it tastes just as good.<br><br><br><br>
I feel for you though <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/sad.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":("> I ate a brand of yogurt for a while without realizing that it had gelatin in it (simple oversight... my mom usually checks, and this time she didn't), and I felt awful afterwards. But you didn't mean to. It doesn't do any good to beat yourself up about it.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by majake</i><br><br><b>you shouldnt feel like an omni cause you ate gelatine, i wouldnt worry about that. Whoever said that is an elitist.</b></div>
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They said she was an omni because she ate fish, not because of gelatin.<br><br><br><br>
But if I recall correctly her parents made her eat the fish. She seems to be doing her best to follow her own standards, but their standards are clashing with hers. It's a difficult compromise -- I remember trying to be vegetarian living under my parents' roof, and it was not easy, even though I was several years older than she is.<br><br><br><br>
She's doing her best from what I can see.<br><br><br><br>
I would suggest writing up a list of yogurt brands that are gelatin-free -- seems like that will be easier for Mom to follow than trying to read tiny ingredients list print.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by Astarte</i><br><br><b>I believe fat free yoplait has no gelatin in it. It isn't as thick as normal yogurts, but it tastes just as good.<br><br></b></div>
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What's your definition of normal yogurt? Just curious... most of the yogurt I get is much thinner than Yoplait. Yoplait seems like dessert yogurt to me.<br><br><br><br>
Right now I have Seven Stars Farms yogurt (biodynamic!) and it's really thin, you could drink it with a straw... but I usually get Stonyfield or Mountain High, and they are both much thinner than Yoplait. They are what I think of as normal yogurt.
 

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Please don't be so concerned about what everyone here thinks you should be called because of something that was well...I guess out of your control.<br><br><br><br>
Please be concerned about who you actually ARE, and not what you are called. That's what's really important.<br><br><br><br>
Rome wasn't built in a day dear.<br><br><br><br>
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when i ate yogurt, i only bought organic or biodynamic yogurt. Seven Stars Farm is local to me--i could go and pick it up at the source. I also ate Stoney Brook Farms, which was not local to me. I don't know what SBF practices are specifically, so i tended to buy the Local, Seven Stars Yogurt.<br><br><br><br>
If it is the same seven stars yogurt, the farm is beautiful, animals well cared for.
 

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LOL!<br><br><br><br>
You're not an omni, don't think so..... no!<br><br><br><br>
I sometimes happen to knowingly eat some animal products, in exactly the same situation: when someone bends over backwards to accomodate me, but still does not accomplish to provide vegan food. I then eat some of it - but if I knew that would eat there more often in future, I WOULD point out that it's still not vegan.<br><br><br><br>
Don't feel bad! That does not help anybody.<br><br><br><br>
IMHO this all here is not about labels and beating yourself up for ingesting miniscule amounts of animal ingredients. It's about the big picture and by requesting vegetarian food wherever you go, you're sending a message and spreading the word. <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":up:"><br><br><br><br>
My $0.02<br><br><br><br>
ETA: I just remembered that I don't claim to be vegan on this board anymore - so before any vegan wants to fire me because of what I said above.... I quit, LOL! <img alt="" class="inlineimg" src="/images/smilies/tongue3.gif" style="border:0px solid;" title=":p">
 

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Don't feel bad - I had no idea how many foods contain gelatin until I started reading labels. That stuff appears in the strangest places. I am sure that I have unintentionally consumed some gelatin along the way without knowing about it. Keep fighting the good fight.
 

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<div class="quote-block"><i>Originally posted by zoebird</i><br><br><b><br><br>
If it is the same seven stars yogurt, the farm is beautiful, animals well cared for.</b></div>
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This is good to know. thank you!
 
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