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Hi all, be inspired.<br><br>
From <a href="http://www.negotiationisover.net/2011/10/12/an-nio-exlusive-interview-the-extraordinary-occupation-of-a-bullfighting-ring-by-90-militants/" target="_blank">Negotiation Is Over!</a><br><div class="quote-container"><span>Quote:</span>
<div class="quote-block">On October 8, 2011 in Rodilhan, France, 95 militant activists from the groups CRAC Europe, Droits des Animaux (France), and Animaux en Peril (Belgium) <span style="text-decoration:underline;">staged a well-executed occupation of a bullfighting arena</span>. As 35 of these individuals who were positioned throughout the stands rose to their feet displaying signs denouncing the horrific event, authorities and spectators immediately began to swarm them in an attempt to subdue and eject these activists. Simultaneously, 65 of their comrades stormed the field and chained themselves together creating a human blockade, completely disrupting the planned exhibition of animal torture</div>
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Although I agree that bull fights are just a bit, ok, extremely barbaric, that was no way to get their point across.<br>
I would have let the bull out on them.<br><br>
That being said, if the matador wants to fight a bull and prove what a real man he is,, I say let the fight go on, with a little change.<br><br>
No more wearing the animal down by the Banderillero stabbing the bulls neck muscles with the barbed spears.<br>
The matador will no longer use a cape, instead he will super glue a set of man made horns on his head and go at the bull on the bulls terms.<br>
There will be no back up that runs out and gets the bulls attention when the matador is slung 50 foot in the air by the bull, to be fair, nobody will come out to get the matadors attention when he flings the bull 50 foot in the air.<br><br>
Now thats a bull fight I would be willing to pay good money to see...<br><br>
One hint for bull fights.<br>
In the early 80s we went to a bull fight in Plaza de Toros, a group of about 10 Navy guys. DO NOT,, I repeat DO NOT cheer for the bull during these events when sitting in the middle of the crowd... How the hell could we have known that the matadors were considered public heros..<br>
That was one hell of a fun fight getting back out of there that day.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Fatman</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3012495"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I would have let the bull out on them.</div>
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o_O WTF???<br>
sitting in circle and chanting "Abolition" and "torture is not our culture" deserves such a treatment??? They didn't hit or insult a single person, they just interrupted a bullfight!<br>
I wonder what you would have inflict them if they had assaulted or just fought back. Death penalty?
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>leong_cf</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3012101"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
Hi all, be inspired.<br><br>
From <a href="http://www.negotiationisover.net/2011/10/12/an-nio-exlusive-interview-the-extraordinary-occupation-of-a-bullfighting-ring-by-90-militants/" target="_blank">Negotiation Is Over!</a></div>
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Newsflash: 35 + 65 = 100<br><br>
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Good for them! Any disruption is better then done at all.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Fushichô</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3012519"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
o_O WTF???<br>
sitting in circle and chanting "Abolition" and "torture is not our culture" deserves such a treatment??? They didn't hit or insult a single person, they just interrupted a bullfight!<br>
I wonder what you would have inflict them if they had assaulted or just fought back. Death penalty?</div>
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and if 95 anti abortionists were to chain themselves in front of planned parenthood, blocking the way in.<br>
that is ok with you? That should be reason to just shut down planned parenthood?<br><br>
I agree with ending bull fights, I dont agree with the method.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Fatman</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3013227"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
and if 95 anti abortionists were to chain themselves in front of planned parenthood, blocking the way in.<br>
that is ok with you? That should be reason to just shut down planned parenthood?<br><br>
I agree with ending bull fights, I dont agree with the method.</div>
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I don't agree with their method of dealing with the protesters. It's a peaceful protest, they should have called the police and had them escorted out of there. Spraying them with hoses, dragging them, punching them, throwing things, is a disgusting display. One girl even had her leg broken and many of the women were sexually assaulted. Whether it's a bull fight or an abortion clinic, no one should be treated like that.
 

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<div class="quote-block">Originally Posted by <strong>Limes</strong> <a href="/forum/post/3013239"><img alt="View Post" class="inlineimg" src="/img/forum/go_quote.gif" style=""></a><br><br>
I don't agree with their method of dealing with the protesters. It's a peaceful protest, they should have called the police and had them escorted out of there. Spraying them with hoses, dragging them, punching them, throwing things, is a disgusting display. One girl even had her leg broken and many of the women were sexually assaulted. Whether it's a bull fight or an abortion clinic, no one should be treated like that.</div>
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The sexual assault supposedly did not happen. The women claimed that people were trying to undress them and touch them in inappropriate places. This could very well equate to, pulling on their clothing to try to remove them from the area, and accidental touching of breasts while trying to move them along. Not being there we dont know.<br>
What we do know is that IF the police had been the ones to come and break it up, it would have likely ended in pepper spray, injuries and arrests.<br><br>
Again, I agree with shutting the activity down, but I think it should be done in the courts and not by putting 95 people up against a few thousand spectators and a pissed off bull. It was stupid on their part and in my opinion they got exactly what they were hoping for.<br>
A peaceful non-eventful protests with no injury would not have made the news as widely as this did. They were looking for it, they got it.
 

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Again, I agree with shutting the activity down, but I think it should be done in the courts</div>
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I agree to a point, While your waiting though ( the many years) it takes to finally get to court if it ever does. Do what ever you have to to to get the word out on what ever the abuse is.<br><br>
you Want to make the news! "A peaceful non-eventful protests" does not make news unless theres <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Thousands</span> if it's a small group Media won't cover it. The point is to get it out there anyway you can. I have been in the middle of some nasty crap (anti hunting) myself, you deal with it the best you can and if you have to fight your way out of it.. do it!!
 

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I agree to a point, While your waiting though ( the many years) it takes to finally get to court if it ever does. Do what ever you have to to to get the word out on what ever the abuse is.<br><br>
you Want to make the news! "A peaceful non-eventful protests" does not make news unless theres <span style="text-decoration:underline;">Thousands</span> if it's a small group Media won't cover it. The point is to get it out there anyway you can. I have been in the middle of some nasty crap (anti hunting) myself, you deal with it the best you can <b>and if you have to fight your way out of it.. do it!</b>!</div>
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We agree on this point too.
 

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The courts do need to settle things, but the big problem like I said is how long it can take.. Plus which ever side loses then they appeal and then theres a few more years...... Look at the Army ( in MD) testing on the Monkeys. This got settled way sooner, <span style="text-decoration:underline;">WAY SOONER</span>, then had it gone to court.
 
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